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  1. #16
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    How are you checking for spark? Plug against head? Try unscrewing plug cap see if spark from plug wire to ground make sure ignition coil is grounded good and kill switch is disconnected or is working correctly
    you know whats right therefore you know what is expected

  2. #17
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    A repair manual will tell you how to check your electric system. Where did you buy your cdi? I've bought cheap cdis and coils off of ebay and even thought they looked like the original, they had different ohms readings. I now always check them as soon as I get them. Just a suggestion.

  3. #18
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    here are some pics if you need any more close ups i can get them!! also is there meant to be oil under the stator cover because some bikes have oil in there and some don't and im not sure if it should or not...
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  4. #19
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    did you unplug the kill switch and try?
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    1985 Honda ATC 70
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  5. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveCZ28 View Post
    did you unplug the kill switch and try?
    I did but I will double check again to make sure!!
    73 atc 70
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    ytm 225 dr
    atc 90
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    klt 250A
    84 atc 200es
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    gone but not forgotten restored 82 atc 70

  6. #21
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    Unplugged the kill switch still no change dead as a door nail!!
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    79 atc 70
    ytm 225 dr
    atc 90
    80 atc 110
    klt 250A
    84 atc 200es
    85 atc 250es

    gone but not forgotten restored 82 atc 70

  7. #22
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    do you have power coming out of the stator? do you have power going to the coil? did you unscrew the sparkplug cap from the coil wire and test for spark there? sometimes the cap looks like its on, but isnt screwed into the wire, so no spark.

    with that much oil in there, id clean all the surfaces in there. clean the coil trigger. that rides on the outside of the flywheel, that rides on the external magnet of the flywheel.
    2006 Yamaha Raptor 700
    2004 Kawasaki KFX700 V Force
    1985 Suzuki LT230GE(wifes toy)
    1985 Honda ATC 70
    1979 Honda ATC 70 (daughters toy)


  8. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveCZ28 View Post
    do you have power coming out of the stator? do you have power going to the coil? did you unscrew the sparkplug cap from the coil wire and test for spark there? sometimes the cap looks like its on, but isnt screwed into the wire, so no spark.

    with that much oil in there, id clean all the surfaces in there. clean the coil trigger. that rides on the outside of the flywheel, that rides on the external magnet of the flywheel.
    Ok when I put the multimeter on it does get power but i have no idea if its enough! and i have not checked the coil...I have not pulled the cap off but I have tried 3 different coil and none made a difference but I will pull the cap off and try it...and I will clean the flywheel and get back here!!
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    ytm 225 dr
    atc 90
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    klt 250A
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    gone but not forgotten restored 82 atc 70

  9. #24
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    id put a test light on the wires going to the coil, and see if you have spark to the coil
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    2004 Kawasaki KFX700 V Force
    1985 Suzuki LT230GE(wifes toy)
    1985 Honda ATC 70
    1979 Honda ATC 70 (daughters toy)


  10. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveCZ28 View Post
    id put a test light on the wires going to the coil, and see if you have spark to the coil
    Ok i will do that and see!!
    73 atc 70
    84 ytm 200ern
    79 atc 70
    ytm 225 dr
    atc 90
    80 atc 110
    klt 250A
    84 atc 200es
    85 atc 250es

    gone but not forgotten restored 82 atc 70

  11. #26
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    I put a test light on ad kicked it over I have power from the yellow wire but none from the red and black!!
    73 atc 70
    84 ytm 200ern
    79 atc 70
    ytm 225 dr
    atc 90
    80 atc 110
    klt 250A
    84 atc 200es
    85 atc 250es

    gone but not forgotten restored 82 atc 70

  12. #27
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    upon further inspection of your pictures. pictures 2 and 4 both show the same green wires. are they spliced there or something? it looks like 1 or 2 wires might just be hanging and not attached?? idk what those would be for

    and red/black, is that the same wire coming from the new piece you soldered in? if so is it even making contact??
    2006 Yamaha Raptor 700
    2004 Kawasaki KFX700 V Force
    1985 Suzuki LT230GE(wifes toy)
    1985 Honda ATC 70
    1979 Honda ATC 70 (daughters toy)


  13. #28
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    Ok for some reason the new 'thing' i soldered doesn't work so I put the old one in and it actually lights up the light now but beyond that I don't know where to head to now!!
    73 atc 70
    84 ytm 200ern
    79 atc 70
    ytm 225 dr
    atc 90
    80 atc 110
    klt 250A
    84 atc 200es
    85 atc 250es

    gone but not forgotten restored 82 atc 70

  14. #29
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    You might want to inspect your spark advancer. I know when my 200m wasn't giving me spark I checked and cripple the checked everything but it. After I got a new advanced low and behold I had spark.

  15. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by 86125m View Post
    You might want to inspect your spark advancer. I know when my 200m wasn't giving me spark I checked and cripple the checked everything but it. After I got a new advanced low and behold I had spark.
    How would I check it the manual just says to check the gap??
    73 atc 70
    84 ytm 200ern
    79 atc 70
    ytm 225 dr
    atc 90
    80 atc 110
    klt 250A
    84 atc 200es
    85 atc 250es

    gone but not forgotten restored 82 atc 70

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