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    Quote Originally Posted by El Camexican View Post
    I'm going to be strapped for time and YouTube & googleless for another week, but I'm pretty sure whatever I respond with is going to include a "so what are we supposed to do about it?"
    The only solution is for guys like you, me, redsox, etc, is to lower our standard of living to met THEIR (Fabio, DOHCdude420whatever) expectations. Fabio and Dude have convinced themselves that a majority of the members here are somehow living in the lap of luxury making high 6 figure incomes, buying every new toy, gadget, iphone, vehicle, whatever, that comes rolling down the line when in reality that couldn't be further from the truth. Along with that, they think that every member here is glued to the boob tube being brainwashed.

    All the while they buy cheap tents and trailers and other sh!t manufactured in or from parts made in China, a country with a far worse record of human rights violations than most other countries and especially the US, and convince themselves that they are sticking it to the man, all the while complaining about foreign child labor and polluting foreign countries when in reality they are contributing to that very problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Camexican View Post
    I like Glamy's "rush the banks" mentality and was all for it 30 years ago when I didn't have anything in the bank LOL! But the current average standard of living in the USA will never draw more than a few dozen people into the withdrawal line. Things have to bottom out before change happens and as mentioned 95% don't think we're anywhere near it.
    Never mind the fact that the "Illuminati" will never let the banks empty their vaults, nor give the peasants all of "their" money.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Camexican View Post
    Of course all that can change in a blink with a CA earthquake, Yellowstone volcano blast, Sun flare or nuclear war, but not before.

    I'd better stop now, later.
    You are correct. And guess who will be the first to be attacked/villianized? The middle class. Why? Because the ones at the top can't be reached to be overthrown. They'll have their well paid armies to defend them. Who will those armies consist of you ask? I mean since everybody knows that the Ultra rich elite are to blame, who in their right mind would ally with them and protect them? Gangs, Gangbangers, thugs and criminals. Yup, that's right, the very people who scream the loudest about the rich being their oppressors will actually defend them for payment in money, food, drugs, etc.

    Once things quiet down and the Elite start going back to controlling everything, there will be a few troublemakers that start to question the authority. Those in control will hang, or put a bullet in the head of some of the "agitators", in public of course, to force the peasants to toe the line. Other less vocal people will be put in prison for months or years for their "crimes against the state."

    All you have to do is look at any military coup or violent take-over that's happened in other countries (Venezuela anyone?). In the end, The elite rich will still be running things. The only difference will be that ALL OF THE PEASANTS ARE POOR AND SUFFER EQUALLY. Except those at the top of course.

    It's called Socialism my friends, AND THAT IS THE END GAME.
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    Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

    Liberalism suspends the intellect of its victims, while at the same time tricking them into believing that they're smarter than everyone else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    ......yawn
    Thanks for acknowledging that I'm right.
    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Right about what? I don't even read your posts if they have more than one or two lines and haven't for a long time.
    Admitted trolling

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    Come on Glamy Camel Jockeys can hop in the cockpit and fly it better then a retired Air Force pilot


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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    In attempting to communicate with many of the members who have posted on 9/11, I do have to "dumb down" some of the things I'm trying to portray on here. As I said before, I have studied this subject quite a bit on and off over the years, so I should know a thing or two about it. I have always had a knack for science and physics, and as of late math has really been more of a strong suit for me than it used to be. At times I don't even understand how my mind is comprehending the things that it is, and in those circumstances it can be difficult for me to explain to someone else something that I don't fully understand myself. My mind sometimes understands things that seem beyond my conscious level of understanding, but it does understand, then I can kind of understand things by feel and in turn, learn. I have learned a lot on this subject and present the best material I can find for you all to see here. Not because I want to get into an argument, not because I want you to join my religion, and not for anyone's entertainment, but because I care. I understand the need for elaboration but the honest truth is I feel like our gap in knowledge is a huge communication barrier. Insulted yet? That would be your ego, because if you have a problem with me being smarter than you that's your problem, not mine. You're better looking than me, you're more successful, you're stronger than me, and you've got way more friends on the Bookface. Guess how much of that bothers me? So take your offense and shove it, this is too important for feelings and egos. I'm not exaggerating when I say that most of the material presented to me challenging my beliefs and ideals in regards to 9/11 were elementary school level. Beginner bullshit. I have been studying this subject for long before my thread was ever started in 2012, and as I've repeated multiple times, I didn't start my foray into this subject as a skeptic in regards to the story given by our government. I started out thinking the idea that anything defying the original NIST report was absurd, just like you guys are saying now, and that was probably at least seven years ago. My drive in life, the thing I thirst for more than anything else, well it's actually love but right along side that is the truth. It is how I am wired, and if any of you know me you know that to be the case. I know where I have been and I know what I have seen. I know how science works and I know the laws of Newtonian physics, and I know what's possible and what is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Right about what? I don't even read your posts if they have more than one or two lines and haven't for a long time.
    I'm sure anything more than 2 syllables is a challenge for you also.
    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Camexican View Post
    Man, that is a tough question. Each scenario offers a set of variables that could drastically change the number of people involved. For example, were the people on the flights alleged to have hit the buildings murdered, or did they never exist in the first place?

    Were the grieving family members people who truly lost love ones or actors? Was everybody in the area of the pentagon that got hit ordered out of there, told to stay home for the day, or never meant to be there in the first place?

    Was bin Laden a willing participant in this? Where the 19 men alleged to have participated in the flights real people paid to take the fall, or were they invented? What about Seal team six, did they even exist?

    How many guys worked on setting demolitions in the towers that have not come forward to say that they did it? That would include engineers, chemical companies, the people who did the installations, the people who did the sheet rock and painting afterwords and the guards and security personnel who would have had to have let them in at night for months on end. Of course if we go with the concrete desintegrating ray gun theory the question is mute, but then all of those flashes of light as the building goes down have to be ignored or discredited.

    I'd put the number of conspirators and co-conspirators willing or not at well over 500 and I think that's being very conservative. If that's true it also means that nobody told their wives or girlfriends anything and everybody was either murdered, or paid off not to speak a word all these years later.

    Meanwhile Bill Clinton couldn't get a blowjob in the privacy of his own office without the whole world finding out about it, teaching us that two people can keep a secret if one of them can swallow.
    Thanks for the answer Nico. So, the Mexinadian puts the members of the conspiracy conservatively at around 500? Nobody else wants to postulate a number? Ballpark it for me. Anyone? anyone? The questions will only get harder from here. I thought that with the access I have to the truly dazzling intellects present among this collection of scholars that I would have no trouble getting an answer. So, i'll ask again. Approximately how many people, living or dead, had knowledge of the conspiracy? Glamy? Fab? Dude? Dude? Dude?
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    Hey now, i dont trust the govt belive me... Wife and i have these conversations all the time. Im just more of a lurker/ listening/learning a few things along the way type guy.
    I just want to live on the correct side when/if a revolution breaks out. And massachussetts aint it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamy View Post
    So is this the "end all argument" for you ?
    Not an "end all," just a question. There would be a series of questions, if i could get even one answer. Answers in these threads are like 87 250r's. Everyone claims to have em', but i ain't never seen one. (I'll probably watch Wittenberg and Wood tonight.)
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    So what Glamy, I can't sit back, take in everything that's posted and observe?? Be creeped out all you want, I'm sorry you are so easily creeped out but that's not my problem or fault.

    And like I said in the other thread that got locked down, I have no issue conversing with people that may not agree with me. What I refuse to do is be insulted for it time and again as I try to be respectful of others when I take a dissenting position. It's called casting pearls before swine and I'm not in the habit of doing it. Fab thinks I am too easily scared off, no not really. It's what Damon has done time and time again without fail. It's wanna be shock-jock syndrome and I have no interest in subjecting myself to it.

    Sorry if that explanation isn't good enough for you, I have more important things to do with my time. I'm heading back to the woods with my Winchester...see ya
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    No offense taken Glamy.

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    I've said the same thing Ride Red said a couple of posts up multiple times.

    Both you and Fabio say "Question everything". Unless of course it something one of you two posts up.

    Lots of ego in Fabio's last post claiming no room for egos. Hypocritical bullshlt.
    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
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    I say question everything, but not the laws of physics. I cannot communicate with another human being on any level who can stack up their opinion vs the laws of physics. That person either has to get over themselves or they're just not very intelligent. Either way I have difficulties communicating with those people and it's not worth my time.

    I am very humble Scooter. When I am right, I will stand my ground. When I have spent years researching a subject and I have facebook cheerleaders who don't even exist on the same plane as I posting BS links they found thirty seconds before to refute years of research and scientific testing, I am going to explain my position. Me explaining to you how well-versed I am in any particular subject is not bragging, it's the truth. In actuality, it is YOUR EGO, as well as Redsux, as well as others that causes you to get offended instead of opening your mind and learning something.

    This is why I give up. I cannot communicate with you people.

    Billy Corgan, a brilliant man, said it best when he said this- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojAXUqL--mY&t=3174s

    YOU, Scooter, Redsux, others, are the masses of whom he is speaking. Do your best to ignore the man to the right of him and listen closely to what Billy is saying. I find it amazing when I hear from people who have come to the exact same life conclusions as I yet we've never once spoken to each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsox View Post
    if i could get even one answer.
    Still waiting. Cricket, cricket.

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    When I am right, I will stand my ground.
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    This is why I give up. I cannot communicate with you people.
    Seems contradictory, but much of what you post is. Seems the only thing you are consistently sure of is that you're correct.

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    In actuality, it is YOUR EGO, as well as Redsux, as well as others that causes you to get offended
    I'm offending Scooter?? How does that make any sense? The reason, John, that you can't "communicate" with some members here, is because you do not comprehend the difference between "lecture" and "discussion." There is an important fundamental difference in the meaning of the two terms. See if Damon will let you borrow his dictionary if you need further clarification. Maybe he'll swap you for your "Newtonian" Physics 101 Textbook.
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