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    Um... Ive been a logger for 10 years on and off. And most of the new chain saws have crome/nika plated cylinders. I run 20-1. I do not mess around on my Tecate. I also run castrol 2 stroke oil. I have heard too much oil is a bad thing. But banshees are at 20-1. I see alot of people buying top end oil. 15-30$ Canadian for a liter. Ive bought motul oil back in the early 2000s and all it did was mess up my motors. I ran 20-1 in a 1983 stock kx 250 motor with its original head gasket for 3 years with no issues with castrol. I use to buy ultramar oil from the gas station. Also this motor was completey tore down right down to tranny shafts in pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tecate250 View Post
    Um... Ive been a logger for 10 years on and off. And most of the new chain saws have crome/nika plated cylinders. I run 20-1. I do not mess around on my Tecate. I also run castrol 2 stroke oil. I have heard too much oil is a bad thing. But banshees are at 20-1. I see alot of people buying top end oil. 15-30$ Canadian for a liter. Ive bought motul oil back in the early 2000s and all it did was mess up my motors. I ran 20-1 in a 1983 stock kx 250 motor with its original head gasket for 3 years with no issues with castrol. I use to buy ultramar oil from the gas station. Also this motor was completey tore down right down to tranny shafts in pieces.

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    my 85 r is bone stock and my local honda shop told me to use gold spectrum which my buddy used to use 23 years ago in his quadzilla (he's smart as hell). anyhow, the gentleman at the shop said its completely safe to use a whole 10 oz bottle of gold spectrum to 5 gallons of go go juice in my bike. is this true or should i dial it down? comments are welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantombiker View Post
    my 85 r is bone stock and my local honda shop told me to use gold spectrum which my buddy used to use 23 years ago in his quadzilla (he's smart as hell). anyhow, the gentleman at the shop said its completely safe to use a whole 10 oz bottle of gold spectrum to 5 gallons of go go juice in my bike. is this true or should i dial it down? comments are welcome.

    thx, bro...mark
    That's about 40:1 with golden spectro so just make sure your jetted correctly for that ratio and run the piss outta it!! Totally safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by briano View Post
    I run 50:1 in every 2 stroke, always have and always will. With all of the questions about mix ratios and what is better, and break in periods, here's how I look at it. Go buy a chainsaw, not a sh!t box from a big box store but from an actual dealer. It is set up and running great when you get it, the oil ratio is 50:1, and there is no heat cycles or not running full throttle. You take your new saw and run it balls to the walls like it should be, and guess what, they will run for many trouble free years. They also run at way higher rpms than most other engines, anywhere from 12,500 to 14,000 rpms. I ran my saw for 2 hours today pretty much nonstop only stopping for fuel and it keeps on ticking time after time and year after year. I'm a firm believer in a good quality oil and the jetting setup to run a 50:1 mix, I've never had a problem with this. From bikes, trikes, quads and snowmobiles I have thousands of trouble free miles.
    Wholeheartedly agree. I use 50:1 Motorex in everything with no worries. Never had one problem.
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    I ran a tank of 50:1 to be nice to the new rings and then switched to 60:1 I plan to keep it there (with Motul) until the next rebuild. Would love to do a test with Golden Spectro, but it will have to wait.

    Tecate250, what did Motul do to your engines that you didn't like?
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    I ran Klotz 2 stroke for the 1st 3 tanks of gas thru the Tecate. The dealer stopped selling it and Now I am using Bel-Ray H1R Synthetic with 93 octane. I had 4 oz per gallon which is 32:1 Yet being winter and I just put on new 38mm Air Styrker, the plug was soaked black with oil. Should I add more gas therefore making it close to 40:1? Im not jetting this new carb as I thought it should just work fine. What is best for winter riding for my Tecate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat-BoX View Post
    I ran Klotz 2 stroke for the 1st 3 tanks of gas thru the Tecate. The dealer stopped selling it and Now I am using Bel-Ray H1R Synthetic with 93 octane. I had 4 oz per gallon which is 32:1 Yet being winter and I just put on new 38mm Air Styrker, the plug was soaked black with oil. Should I add more gas therefore making it close to 40:1? Im not jetting this new carb as I thought it should just work fine. What is best for winter riding for my Tecate?
    Why wouldn't you want to play with the jets? Sounds like you're pretty rich, but adding gas to the current mix will make it even richer. At 20:1 a properly jetted engine will still have a light brown plug.
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    I run Bel-Ray H1-R as well at 40:1 with 94octane. Have it dialled in pretty good right now on a 39mm for winter riding with a 175main and 42pilot. Easier to play with jets than mixing fuels at different ratios.
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    for our racing 2-stroke small motors (85cc to 105cc) we run 28:1 due to it being a sprint race the while time on the track. I would rather have a little oil burning and replacing plugs and have a motor last longer than have it run lean and melt the motor. at $1200 a top end that gets expensive.
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    32:1 Synthetic Motul, Torco, Motorex or a good name brand or Lucas Semi-Synthetic (Cheap works good) cheap at Autozone or Walmart.

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    Zero oil related failures since 1982, 2-3 ring/rings per piston. Use good clean fresh fuel, jetted correctly, no plug falling. (Make sure you spit in the plug cap)

    I would go to 20:1 before 40:1 IMHO
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