1984 ATC 250R Refresh... PROJECT (Darius at it again!)

[nik0708]

Nick,

Is that an OEM decal there? Man that would be killer!!

Hi Darius,
Yeh it's NOS OEM. The tire/chain info decal is available from the guy Vince gave you the link to.
I have seen some mint 84r's that don't have that particular decal fitted and others that do, I have a mint original 84r fender that has all original decals attached and that particular decal is present.
The tank decals were different between 83 & 84 too, the wing on the 84 tank has a more orange colour where the 83 is yellow. All repro decals are yellow, even some of the high $$$ restored 84r's I have seen have the incorrect tank decals.

[nik0708]

Hi Darius,
Yeh it's NOS OEM. The tire/chain info decal is available from the guy Vince gave you the link to.
I have seen some mint 84r's that don't have that particular decal fitted and others that do, I have a mint original 84r fender that has all original decals attached and that particular decal is present.
The tank decals were different between 83 & 84 too, the wing on the 84 tank has a more orange colour where the 83 is yellow. All repro decals are yellow, even some of the high $$$ restored 84r's I have seen have the incorrect tank decals.

Sorry about the jumbled up pics, it's a bit awkward downloading pics from my phone!

[Darius1502]

Darius, I can put you in touch with a guy that has those if you need it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Custom-O...item51c223b7ee

Tell him you got his info from me, it is called the chain tensioning decal. Just ask him in the ask a question portion he will get back to you as to how much and will give you instructions on buying. Does great work he can do any decal for you. He did my custom decals on my fenders.

Vince

Vince thanks man...I'll check him out!! I really, really appreciate it!

[Darius1502]

Sorry about the jumbled up pics, it's a bit awkward downloading pics from my phone!

You are totally right Nick. I've seem some horrible positioning. Even on the fenders with the warning decal and the 'pro link' decals. Funny how that happens. Yes Sir..mine is an '84 and has the more orange colored wings. Crazy the distinctions.

I also noticed the numbers/lettering "250R" on the rear fender is fatter and heavier on the '84's.

[Darius1502]

Darius, I can put you in touch with a guy that has those if you need it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Custom-O...item51c223b7ee

Tell him you got his info from me, it is called the chain tensioning decal. Just ask him in the ask a question portion he will get back to you as to how much and will give you instructions on buying. Does great work he can do any decal for you. He did my custom decals on my fenders.

Vince

Vince there is no way for me to contact him. HIs ebay does not allow questions (only the pre-selected ones). do you have a email for him?

[Blue Viffer]

Darius,
Sent you a pm with his address. For those of you following the link if you scroll down to ask a question then go through the questions they ask you first and tell e-bay no that was not the answer you wanted they will let you contact the seller through e-bay. Then you can ask him hey can you make this decal or can you make a custom decal or I would like my custom decal like this. Scott is a stand up guy and made these fender decals for me in both the maier fender size and the original fender size.


And the cat teeth marks in the seat were not of Scott's doing.

Vince

[Darius1502]

Darius,
Sent you a pm with his address. For those of you following the link if you scroll down to ask a question then go through the questions they ask you first and tell e-bay no that was not the answer you wanted they will let you contact the seller through e-bay. Then you can ask him hey can you make this decal or can you make a custom decal or I would like my custom decal like this. Scott is a stand up guy and made these fender decals for me in both the maier fender size and the original fender size.




And the cat teeth marks in the seat were not of Scott's doing.

Vince

Man that is just too cool!! Super nice work... Thanks for sharing!!

[Blue Viffer]

Darius,

Thanks like I said he did two sets for me and the decal you want also the 300r for the tool box. Here are a couple more pics.

And he even did the WestCoast for the swing arm.

Vince

[Darius1502]

Super nice!! I even see that 'chain tension' decal!! Right on!!

[Darius1502]

A little update. I've been getting odds and ends like levers, decals, chain slider (for swingarm), etc. Plus polishing up the back fenders. I am actually getting very good at this. The last set I did was my 350X and while I did a good job I started with too course a grit paper and had a very hard time getting the lines out. This time the coursest grain I went was 400 and I got to the pics below.

For those wondering here is the protocol:

I basically start wet sanding them (by hand) 400 grit sand paper. Then go to 600, 1000, 2000, then 3000. You keep sanding till scratches are gone. All the way up to 3000 grit by hand.

Really deep scratches you can get out, but it just takes time. This part is easy BUT it just a patience game. Getting the showroom shine is the harder part for most. Here's the secret sauce this pad: http://www.autopia-carcare.com/megui...tml#.VKBu6P-sc Meguiars Soft Buff W-9000 Foam Finishing Pad 8 inch with Novus polish: http://www.amazon.com/Novus-Plastic-.../dp/B000J41VDM
www.autopia-carcare.com

Don't use an orbital buffer. Those suck for this purpose. You need something like this **THIS IS THE EXACT UNIT I HAVE** http://www.amazon.com/Tradespro-8367...DES+PRO+BUFFER

The orbitals will go all over the place and you won't be able to do this correctly. You want a straight polisher that only rotates the pad and let's you select different speeds.

Once you get it smooth but dull it will look kind of like the old Maier fenders did. Then start with the pad and Novus 3. Keep going slowly. After 10 passes apply more Novus 3. Do about 3 sets of passes. WASH THE PAD AND LET IT DRY. CLEAN OFF THE FENDERS OF ANY RESIDUE. Then do the same thing but this time do it with Novus 2. The more you go the shiner it gets. Honestly even for NOS plastic...that gets dull or gets rash marks from sitting on a shelf or just little nicks...the 9000 pad with Novus 2 will make it look like it just came off the plastic press!

I've also got a video that I'll be making for Nick and everyone else.

The first pic where I am measuring gives you an idea of where I was at RIGHT after all 3000 wet sanding was done.



NOTE: These pictures were only after the first day. I've been at this for a 3 more days...and they look even BETTER!! NOTE: THIS IS A DRY SHINE. NO ARMOR ALL OR OTHER SILICONE ON THESE FENDERS WHATSOEVER!!

[atc007]

What a pleasure Darius,what a pleasure. Thanx again.

[Darius1502]

Just think of me as the fender polish FETISH guy....

Honestly if I could get NOS for the '83 '84 R I would but...many of us have had to learn this because of necessity. So I am glad to keep learning and sharing this stuff. Hopefully its helped quite a bit of people.

I'll also say that even when you find NOS stuff...it many times has shelf 'rash' or is dulled out by handling or has slight scuffs from being moved around for 30 years. I've even had stuff scuff up my NOS fenders in the garage! This protocol BUT using only the NOVUS 3 and NOVUS 2 with the 9000 pad will bring back the smooth glossy finish.

Its a great thing to be able to do.

[Darius1502]

quick updates as of yesterday...

[nik0708]

quick updates as of yesterday...

Stunning job Darius!! The rest is easy if you can get fenders to look like that.

[Blue Viffer]

Looking fantastic Darius...top notch and thanks for doing the hard work in figuring out what works best in what order. That bike is going to be showroom quality quick.