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    Axle bolts won't budge on 84 200s?

    Hey fellow trikers. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to remove the 4 axle bolts on the rear of the trike, I need to tighten my chain and these need to be loosened for me to do so. 2 out of the 4 came out fine, but the 2 on the right side are being a bear. Tried PB Blaster and WD-40 to no avail. Any tips or advice to help get them out? I'm out of ideas. Thanks.


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    pry bar and heavy duty 1/2 rachet with the size socket.
    they are probably rusted on there. you can try to heat it up but that means you will have to replace the bearings and seals as it will damage those.
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    put a small propane torch on them for bit . then use a large wet towel to cool them quickly . should break free after that. good luck . i just had to fight on of my 110's axle nuts to replace shoes.
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    If you have an impact and a little heat, they will come lose. If not... you can try a impact driver. I have a Craftsman that I use on the stubborn socket heads and screws...
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    x2 on the small propane torch. I used one to budge the most stuck 200x axle ever.

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    Alright, so it sounds like the torch is the way to go. One of you guys said that will damage gaskets and seals. I plan on selling this trike once it's good and running so I don't want to put a ton more work into it, the chain thing is all it needs. Is the gasket seal damage inevitable, or can avoid it somehow? Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks.


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    1984 Honda 200x with 200s engine "Auto-X"
    1981 185s junker SOLD
    1983 Honda ATC 185s "the original" SOLD
    1984 Honda ATC 200s "The FrankenTrike" SOLD
    1984 Honda ATC 200s "ole reliable" SOLD
    1986 Honda ATC 200x SOLD

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    Try the small propane torch as mentioned NOT acetylene.

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    Aight boys. I torched the bolts, success they are now still super hard but they move now. I've run into another problem though. How exactly does the chain adjuster work? I'm tightening the bolt on it, and the chain doesn't appear to move at all. What's the deal? Since I'm gonna sell this trike once it's fixed should I even bother? It honestly looks like the chain really can't fall off, both sprockets are so close to the outer case there's pretty much zero room for the chain to ever come off. What do you guys think I should do? Thanks.
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    1983 Honda ATC 200E Big Red "The Barn Find"
    1984 Honda 200x with 200s engine "Auto-X"
    1981 185s junker SOLD
    1983 Honda ATC 185s "the original" SOLD
    1984 Honda ATC 200s "The FrankenTrike" SOLD
    1984 Honda ATC 200s "ole reliable" SOLD
    1986 Honda ATC 200x SOLD

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    in my sig is a link to factory service manual, rear about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oscarmayer View Post
    in my sig is a link to factory service manual, rear about it.
    Ive got both the shop manual and the owners manual (from your site) and I found the part about chain adjustment, im doing what it says and it doesn't seem to be working. I think I may just need to loosen the bolts more, I'll mess with it this week. If anyone has a link to a good youtube tutorial to watch it would be well appreciated. thanks.
    3 Wheelers:
    1983 Honda ATC 200E Big Red "The Barn Find"
    1984 Honda 200x with 200s engine "Auto-X"
    1981 185s junker SOLD
    1983 Honda ATC 185s "the original" SOLD
    1984 Honda ATC 200s "The FrankenTrike" SOLD
    1984 Honda ATC 200s "ole reliable" SOLD
    1986 Honda ATC 200x SOLD

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    Here's what I do after the conventional ways don't work-

    Mapp gas hand torch, heat it up and quench with a candle, yes a wax candle- it sucks the wax into the treads and lubricates the treads.

    Use a 1/2" impact gun with a 6-point impact socket of the correct size, hook it to a oxygen, helium, nitrogen, argon, CO2 or other non-flammable/non-toxic gas and set the pressure at 300 PSI, wear safety glass, it will "blow off" the nut..you will never find the nut again, but you will be replacing it anyway. (I use nitrogen)

    Use a nut cracker, not the kind you use around Christmas.
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