200X suspension modifications

[onformula1]

Most people extend the swinger on the rear half but considering that the 350x style shock is about 4" longer eye to eye I would extend it on the front of the brace and see where that gets you.

The problem with that mod is it changes the rising rate of the rear suspension and lowers the effective rate of the rear shock spring.

There is a different way..............

[oscarmayer]

Is it affordable to have one valved correctly and rebuilt/ recharged? I would like to get mine done. A hot 200x would be infinitely better with new suspension. That's the weak link

Surprisingly getting it done right is not much more than a normal rebuild from a specialist. Replacing some o-rings is. It a rebuild. That is a refresh. A rebuild replaces and mics parts for wear and replaces all those. It also revalves and resprings for rider's weight. All of which is important for it to work together correctly. One must understand ride technicial details before they can truely make the suspension work like it should.


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[Dirtcrasher]

I can't remember the exact deal, but I believe the 86 200X spring fits and is softer than the 85 200X spring. Because I was heavier and someone sold or gave me an 85 200X spring. IDK how much you weigh but a custom shock is the way to go.

I will have an AXIS rear shock on the 350RX (Well, it's been ordered) with soft ride suspension, hi and low speed compression damping adjustments and a spring for my weight. They are not inexpensive

I'd gusset the frame and do something with the front downtube, the 83-85 200X's like to break there!!

[Jmoozy27]

The problem with that mod is it changes the rising rate of the rear suspension and lowers the effective rate of the rear shock spring.

There is a different way..............

It seems that it would if you used the same shock. But what if you used the 350x shock and built the 200x swingarm to have a similar angle? Wouldn't it be essentially the same.

[oscarmayer]

I'd gusset the frame and do something with the front downtube, the 83-85 200X's like to break there!!

Thanks DC! Yea it sounds like the front tube and engine mounts are the weakness.


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[83ATC185]

dc what is the benefit to having the extra reservoir on those? Those sure are purdy

I'm pretty sure the only problem with the shock i have now is my stomach. I'm keeping an eye on this, I've been wanting to do a little something to my 200x. Its been stock in the year since I've had it but I'm starting to want more from it.

[oscarmayer]

Talk to onformula1. He can help mod it so it feels like a couch.


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[onformula1]

It seems that it would if you used the same shock. But what if you used the 350x shock and built the 200x swingarm to have a similar angle? Wouldn't it be essentially the same.

If you used the 350X shock which is about 4" longer and is about a 1/2" bigger in diameter and stuffed it in there at the same angle you are fine.

Now the issues are-

Stuffing it in there correctly so it doesn't hit anything. They are much bigger.

Fitting a shock reservoir that is about twice the size in the stock mounts.

Trimming the larger 350X top shock eyelet down to size.

Trimming the swing arm pivot point because the 350X shock is narrower.

Buying a new rear spring because the 350X spring is much, much softer.

[Jmoozy27]

If you used the 350X shock which is about 4" longer and is about a 1/2" bigger in diameter and stuffed it in there at the same angle you are fine.

Now the issues are-

Stuffing it in there correctly so it doesn't hit anything. They are much bigger.

Fitting a shock reservoir that is about twice the size in the stock mounts.

Trimming the larger 350X top shock eyelet down to size.

Trimming the swing arm pivot point because the 350X shock is narrower.

Buying a new rear spring because the 350X spring is much, much softer.

Copy that, well spoken, I guess my coonassenginuity takes over sometimes... But for the budget rider (like myself) if done right it could work.

[onformula1]

Copy that, well spoken, I guess my coonassenginuity takes over sometimes... But for the budget rider (like myself) if done right it could work.

Yeah, anything can work if you have a welder.

I am working on a better, cheaper way. I know it will work, I just want to get the details worked out.

Think- Better than a 2015 200X if Honda still built trikes.

coonassenginuity? Never heard that before.

[Jmoozy27]

Yeah, anything can work if you have a welder.

I am working on a better, cheaper way. I know it will work, I just want to get the details worked out.

Think- Better than a 2015 200X if Honda still built trikes.

coonassenginuity? Never heard that before.

That sounds awesome, definitely want to hear more on this subject.

Coonassenginuity- the use of makeshift technical knowledge stemming from the bayous of southern Louisiana. Most of this knowledge comes from staring at something for long periods of time. Other forms include trial & error, jerry rigging, and my personal favorite, shot in the dark.

[oscarmayer]

That sounds awesome, definitely want to hear more on this subject.

Coonassenginuity- the use of makeshift technical knowledge stemming from the bayous of southern Louisiana. Most of this knowledge comes from staring at something for long periods of time. Other forms include trial & error, jerry rigging, and my personal favorite, shot in the dark.

you forgot red-neck engineering! nothing wrong with it, just different. sometimes the attitude is make it work at any costs and they can tend to get pretty creative at times when they have too.

[onformula1]

I use OCD Engineering, of course I don't have much choice!

But It works for me.

[RapidRick]

If you used the 350X shock which is about 4" longer and is about a 1/2" bigger in diameter and stuffed it in there at the same angle you are fine.

Now the issues are-

Stuffing it in there correctly so it doesn't hit anything. They are much bigger.

Fitting a shock reservoir that is about twice the size in the stock mounts.

Trimming the larger 350X top shock eyelet down to size.

Trimming the swing arm pivot point because the 350X shock is narrower.

Buying a new rear spring because the 350X spring is much, much softer.

Kind of already overcome those issues a while ago, 2011 I think (wasn't the first) and attached a 350x front end on for good measure. I liked it, because it fit my riding style and worked very well for me.

[oscarmayer]

^ looks good sir!