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  1. #16
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    Thanks!

    So i fixed some invalid links, now all my pics should be shown...

    Today i found some more pictures of the first mockup:

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    The next step was to construct the swingarm. In oder to safe weight (and because i own a TIG welder) it was built entirely from aluminum.

    My swingarm was the prototype of Loizls...

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  3. #18
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    The clutchcover came back from hard anodizing:

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    That´s now my favorite coating for aluminim parts...

    To weld the swingarm straight an improvised jig was weld, (which was bullshit because parts of the jig got stuck in my bearring holes)

    For the nexts projects we will built an adjustable swingarm jig which is a lot more stable!

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  4. #19
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    Thats all for today i have to go to my shop and design the stainless steel muffler for my bigred...

    Tomorrow i will post more.

  5. #20
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    What is a Mocate 250?

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    Cool, thanks for sharing.

    That trike must scoot right along.

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    Last edited by onformula1; 08-25-2015 at 12:50 AM.
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  9. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by sticker_sääp View Post
    If you are interested i can do a report about that thing too after the 250r

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    That would be cool, we all are interested in builds especially builds outside the USA the different styles, parts and scenery are cool and interesting.

    Thanks

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  10. #25
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    I wonder if there's anything you guys can't make? Making billet engine covers for lateTecate 3's could be very profitable with your abilities.It would be nice to dress up the kxt a little, like they do the 250r's. I am not sure how long it takes to make one though. Maybe not lucrative.
    Are you using the kx primary gearing? Or a better way for me to ask is anything different on the kx motor in the Mocate? Have you ever converted a 6 speed 250 kdx motor to anything? Thanks, looking great!

  11. #26
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    Sticker_sääp, excellent work so far! Please keep the info & pics on the build coming. What year CR motor did you use? Based on the cylinder's color, it appears to be of 1988-90 vintage to me. How do you like the power output?

    Quote Originally Posted by loizl View Post
    The powervalve covers were anodized and were expected to be red but honda used a lot of different alloys for different parts so they came out some kind of Bordeaux color.
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    ...with casted aluminum it's tough to anodize any color other than clear or black.
    I knew that's what happened to the color. I was told the very same thing a long time ago, about anodizing cast aluminum, but wasn't thinking about it when I gathered up a few parts to be anodized red. All of the billet aluminum pieces came out great, but the lone, cast aluminum, engine plug came out the same color. The color wasn't too attrocious, so I went ahead and installed it. I just recently ordered a proper, red anodized, replacement.
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  12. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rider View Post
    Sticker_sääp, excellent work so far! Please keep the info & pics on the build coming. What year CR motor did you use? Based on the cylinder's color, it appears to be of 1988-90 vintage to me. How do you like the power output?



    I knew that's what happened to the color. I was told the very same thing a long time ago, about anodizing cast aluminum, but wasn't thinking about it when I gathered up a few parts to be anodized red. All of the billet aluminum pieces came out great, but the lone, cast aluminum, engine plug came out the same color. The color wasn't too attrocious, so I went ahead and installed it. I just recently ordered a proper, red anodized, replacement.
    I took a casted part and sanded it down and polished it up before anodizing and difference is amazing

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  13. #28
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    Thank you all for appreciating our work!

    Best way to anodize cast aluminum is either just do it in black or you cnc mill a replacement and anodize that... But i also like this bourdeaux red so i kept it.

    @ Red Rider: its a 88 CR Engine. I wanted this one because than i can interchange parts from my dirtbike which is a 86 model and basically the same engine

    @ fieldy: Thank you. We are thinking about building billet parts in the future if there is some demand. But the problem is that in germany there is not much of an vintage dirtbike/atc/atv scene and it will cost a shitload of money on shipping and tax costs...

    Its an original gearing, i optimized a bit with the sproket, the first gear is still to short... But thats nothing you can't fix with enough power :-D

    I will update you this evening.




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    Only in black at this time.

    I did two one polished and one not, here is the polished part the other had to be sprayed in clear gloss because it came out flat and looked like ashe and not uniform, I don't have a picture of it because its not finished

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    As always- Everything I post is IMHO.

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