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    Model By Model Year by Year General Notes / Differences

    I found this document posted here: http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...597#post837597

    Seems to be really good info, and the file only had 30 views! Here is a "reprint" of it.

    ATC70

    1973 - K0 First Gen
    The very first ATC70, identified as a 1973 model but probably produced from mid 72 onward. Distinguishing Features: Orange body color, Silver colored forks, 5 hole rear cover plate, Flame design tank decal, angled exhaust silencer, 2 rib foot guards. 7 digit engine number, first two digits 10.ie ATC70E-1000001~

    1974 - K1 First Gen
    2nd year of the series, production commenced in late 1973 and continued throughout 1974. Leftover stock sold through 75. Similar in design to its predecessor. Distinguishing Features: Red body color, Red forks, 4 hole rear cover, straight exhaust silencer, 3 rib foot guards. 7 digit engine number, first two digits 11, ie ATC70E-1100001~first two digits 11, ie ATC70E-1100001~

    1978 - K3 Second Gen
    After a long absence the ATC70 returns, why did they stop production of this hot seller for 4 years, who knows. The new design is similar to the ATC90 with one piece rear fender/seat assy, non-laminated steel frame, exhaust system relocated to outside of frame. Outboard brakes meant easier brake servicing. A new improved chain tensioner did away with a splined shaft that was prone to stripping. All in all a nice package with some good improvements.

    1979 - Z Second Gen
    Second year of the new generation. Very few changes from previous year, slight engine and frame revisions, rocker arm clutch components, transmission parts, brake cam, starter handle. Visible changes restricted to decals. K~ model identification dispensed with (Note: code for this model "Z".)

    1980 - A Second Gen
    New Model identification begins, if you can count to ten you can figure it out 0=A, 1=B, 2=C and so on. Little or no change from the previous model apart from decal differences and revised camshaft and cam chain tensioner. New engine number sequence derived from Trail Bike models.

    1981 - B Second Gen
    1981 models changed very little from previous years, basically a decal change to differentiate from earlier models. Paint changes from Light Scarlet to Passion Red although to look at it appears the same color. Gearshift drum revision, basically the same bike as before.

    1982 - C Second Gen
    1982 models saw the introduction of a 4-speed transmission a welcome revision as the three speed tranny left a lot to be desired. Generally but not always a 4-speed engine could be identified as having 8mm case screws as opposed to previous "Phillips head " screws.

    1983 - D Second Gen
    Some changes since previous model, cylinder head revision, countershaft, low and second gear revision, throttle cable securing band and guide added, handle bar revision, handle bar mounts get plastic cover, fuel tank revision, exhaust system revision

    1984 - E Second Gen
    Very little difference from previous model. Hand brake lever revision, exhaust heat shield changes. Tank decal is same design only colors are dark blue and light blue. Seat loses its "Quilted" design in favor of plain vinyl.

    1985 - F Second Gen
    85 sees end of production for the ATC70 to make way for its 4-wheeled cousin the TRX70. Minor changes limited to decal changes and seat gets new blue coloring. "70" stenciled on seat. revision to cam chain tensioner. Shift pattern changes from all down to all up!

    US90

    1969-1972 - First Gen
    Named the US90 as identified by the engine number prefix of US90. Produced from late 1969 through 1971. Distinguishing features: No headlight or tail-light, Honda name on tank in badge form instead of decal, plastic thumb throttle (prone to breakage and replaced under warranty with alloy unit) 7 digit

    ATC90

    1973 - K1 First Gen
    The first ever ATC90, named the US90 as second model ATC90, some changes from first model, headlight & taillight become standard instead of optional. Seat cover appears to be different, Tank loses badge in favor of stick on decal. Otherwise basically unchanged.

    1974 - K2 First Gen
    Third model ATC90. US90 engine number now gone in favor of ATC90 prefix. Fold away foot rests replaced with fixed units. Fold away head stock dropped. Front fender changed from metal to plastic, rear fender re-styled. Body color "Orange" borrowed from K0 ATC70

    1975 - K3 Second Gen
    Introduction of the new "knobby tire" model. Available in any color so long as it was red. Slight frame revisions and inclusion of plastic mud flaps front & rear. Heavier than previous year due to wheel design and accordingly lower power to weight ratio

    1976 - K4 Second Gen
    Second year of new generation design, very few changes from previous year. Basically the same bike except for decal differences. Honda did a good design job with the previous model and consequently there were no revisions required

    1977 - K5 Second Gen
    1977 proved to be as unexciting as the previous model in as far as new features were concerned. Very little change from the last model apart from the standard decal changes to make it look different. One interesting point was that a "Chevron" style tire was offered as an option for this model. This tire is similar in design to the ones fitted to
    K0~K2 models only it suits the later split rim

    1978 - K6 Second Gen
    1978 sees the end of production for the ATC90, few changes limited to the tank decals and rear fender decals. Rear carrier rack gets beefed up.

    ATC110

    1979 - Z First Gen
    Introduction of new model ATC110, Not much changed since the previous ATC90 model. Engine gets upgrade to 105cc. Rear fender constructed from "non-repairable" plastic. New decal design, basically the same as last year with a slight performance upgrade.

    1980 - A First Gen
    Only new decal design. New engine number configuration starting with TB02E~, new model ID system, this model "A"

    1981 - B Second Gen
    Fuel tank changes shape, Introduction of the much welcome "CDI Ignition". Headlight changes from round to rectangular. Electrical system switches from 6v to 12v.

    1982 - C Second Gen
    Tank & fender decal changes, seat loses its quilted cover. Headlight switch moves from top of headlight to bar mounted combination switch.

    1983 - D Third Gen
    Style overhaul, a nice change or an ugly re-vamp depending on which way you look at it. Seat extends further up the tank. Tank shape changes to accommodate new seat design. New look headlight and fenders. Tool box molded into rear fender.

    1984 - E Third Gen
    84 models saw a few revisions worthy of note, different tank and rear fender decals. Carburetor revision. Rear brake drum and axle changed in favor of ATC185/ATC200 Design. Chain tension is controlled by adjusting rear bearing carrier Redesigned rear carry rack..

    1985 - F Third Gen
    Last year for the ATC110, no changes for this model except the mandatory decal redesign.

    ATC125M

    1984 - E First Gen
    New model introduced for 1984, basically the same bike as the 84 ATC110 only engine pumped up to 124cc. Nice feature for this model is electric start, however this may contribute to more of these models being scrapped as their engines get transplanted into go-carts and the like.

    1985 - F First Gen
    No appreciable changes for 85, same bike, different decals, new price sticker

    1986 - G Second Gen
    1986 models receive whole new engine and frame, old horizontal cylinder design which had been in place since 1970 now replaced with vertical cylinder similar to ATC185. Nice package although some ground clearance may have been sacrificed for new design. New fenders, Fuel Tank, Frame. Basically a whole new bike. When shopping for a 125M this would be the preferred option.

    1987 - H Second Gen
    No new white plastics for 87 which is unusual for Honda, last of the model line. Very rare model as not many were sold.

    ATC185

    1980 - A First Gen
    Introduction of ATC185, first model to graduate from "pressed steel" to "tubular frame" Nice bike with plenty of horsepower that was lacking in previous models. Separate rear fenders with tool box, this model targeting the "Work Horse" market. 180cc engine, 12v electrical system.

    ATC185S

    1981 - B First Gen
    ATC185 models became the ATC185s in 81, "S" denoting sport, new tank design, 1 piece rear fender, round headlight replaced with rectangular unit, tail light and rear carry rack revised. Brake drum enclosed within cover plate, minor difference in rear axle.

    1982 - C First Gen
    Few changes worthy of note for 82 models, decompression cable incorporated into pull starter, kill switch goes from top of thumb throttle case to left side combination switch, new design air cleaner & air box, tank and rear fender decals change. Headlight switch moved from top of headlight to bar mounted combination switch

    1983 - D First Gen
    Last year of production. 83 models get new "Front Suspension" fuel tank shape gets smoothed out, air cleaner and air box get re-designed, rear sprocket gets revised damping arrangement, front & rear rim becomes one-piece, minor changes to front brake panel

    ATC200

    1981 - B First Gen
    Introduction year for new model ATC200, basically an ATC185 with extra cc's added for good measure, seat is removable independent of rear fender. Rear fenders are two piece left and right sided, tool box mounted behind seat.

    1982 - C First Gen
    Few changes and revisions since last model, decompression cable incorporated into recoil starter, headlight switch moves from top of headlight to bar mounted combination switch, kill switch migrates from top of thumb throttle housing to combination switch.

    1983 - D First Gen
    Last year of production for ATC200, fuel tank gets smoothed out treatment, air cleaner & air box re-designed, front suspension introduced, minor difference in rear axle, front and rear rims now one-piece, minor revision to front brake panel, hand brake lever shape changes to "dog leg" style.

    ATC200E Big Red

    1982 - C First Gen
    Introduction of new model ATC200E "Big Red" Model aimed at "work horse" market, basically the same as 82 ATC200 only with front and rear fender mounted carry racks, engine has electric start additional to recoil start, sub transmission added to give choice of "high and low" range. Headlight is high mounted with protective guard, ignition panel with key and neutral indicator light mounted on fork top bridge.

    1983 - D First Gen
    1983 saw little changes for the ATC200E, minor changes to rear axle and sprocket design, hand brake levers change to "Dog Leg Style" , basically the same bike as the previous model with new decals

    ATC200ES Big Red

    1984 - E Second Gen
    Introduction of new model ATC200ES which was basically the ATC200E with the chain driven drive-line replaced with shaft drive. Nice feature included in this model is reverse gear, used ATC200E shoppers should consider this model as the pick of the three as the shaft drive makes for less maintenance and the reverse gear is great for getting out of tight spots.

    ATC200M

    1984 - E First Gen
    Introduction of new model ATC200M, or continuation of old model ATC200 depending on which way you look at it, one piece rims, electric start

    1985 - F First Gen
    No changes worth mentioning for the '85. last year of manufacture for this model. Same bike as last year, new decals, new price sticker

    ATC200S

    1984 - E First Gen
    New model introduced for 84, design based on old ATC200 specs, has one-piece rear fender with tool box molded in, fuel tank blends in with fender, "S" denotes sports model, one-piece rims

    1985 - F First Gen
    Few changes worthy of note for '85 models, handlebar mounted combination switch replaced with ATC110 unit, thumb throttle unit from ATC200X

    1986 - G First Gen
    1986 proved to be even less exciting in the changes department than the previous model. Seat gets blue treatment, that's about it!

    ATC200X

    1983 - D First Gen
    Introduction of new model ATC200X to compliment existing ATC250R, nice package with some good low down torque for the 4-Stroke fans, disc brakes all round, (1-piece) factory alloy rims, tubular fabricated swing-arm

    1984 - E First Gen
    Very few changes for 84 model ATC200X, swing arm changes from tubular steel to box section

    1985 - F First Gen
    Same bike as last year besides blue seat with 200x on the side and polished forks with blue fork boots

    1986 - G Second Gen
    Revamp of ATC200X for 1986, all white fenders body colors, headlamp and tank shrouds remain red, front and rear fenders re-styled, transmission gets an extra 6th gear frame goes from round to square tube construction

    1987 - H Second Gen
    Last of the ATC200X very rare model, Few changes worth note, tank air scoops get white treatment, just one more year and the headlight could have been made white too!

    ATC250ES Big Red

    1985 - F Third Gen
    Introduction of new model ATC250ES although really just a carry on from 84 ATC200ES with more ccs added. Engine shares a lot of parts with ATC250SX, Fuel tank blends into rear fender, rear side covers independent of rear fender. Kick starter takes over from old pull starter

    1986 - G Third Gen
    Few changes for 86 model ATC250ES, small modifications to rear brake panel in the form of guards added, modified rear swing arm.

    1987 - H Third Gen
    Second last year of production for the ATC250ES, was expecting some white body coloring to appear and maybe a blue seat but no. Same bike as last year, new decals new price tag.

    1988 "Super Red" - Third Gen
    This model was not sold in the USA, but was sold in Australia and the UK. Visual differences include a gray seat and details updated to gray to match.

    ATC250R

    1981 - B First Gen
    Introduction of new model ATC250R, previously unheard of performance features in an ATC model, Swing arm rear suspension with gas charged shock, true front oil damped suspension, race ready 2 stroke engine modified from CR stable. Front disc brakes to slow it down. Really a great package that was well received by the buying public.

    1982 - C First Gen
    Few changes for the 82 ATC250R, rear drum brake gives way to disc. Brush guard added to alternator cover. Kill switch gets re-located from thumb throttle housing to left bar mounted combination switch

    1983 - D Second Gen
    Second generation ATC250R, nice restyling job while retaining a lot of the same running gear. Narrower front steer tire, improved suspension travel. Engine gets "black" treatment, new progressive thumb throttle, wheels go from split two piece to one piece. air box redesigned with access from top lid.

    1984 - E Second Gen
    Last of second generation model. Not many changes here, rear shock arm gets refined. Major changes coming up with next model.

    1985 - F Third Gen
    Third Generation ATC250R, Water cooled engine, six speed transmission. New plastics design. 85 models have "250R" printed on side of seat

    1986 - G Third Gen
    Very few changes from previous model, plastics remain the same, some improvements to suspension. 86 models have "ATC" printed on side of seat.

    ATC250SX

    1985 - F First Gen
    Introduction of new model ATC250SX, shares a lot of components with the ATC250ES however is the sportier of the two. Shaft drive 5 speed transmission with reverse gear. Electric and manual starter.

    1986 - G First Gen
    Some minor changes for 86 year model. Tank gets white treatment and is accented by new design decal. Seat goes from black to blue. Fork boots get blue color treatment also. Rear wheel, brake panel and swing arm revision.

    1987 - H First Gen
    Last model ATC250SX, few changes worthy of note, tank decal gets more red treatment. New price tag. that's about it!

    ATC350X

    1985 - F First Gen
    Introduction of new model ATC350X. 4-stroke, 4-valve, twin head pipes. 6 speed transmission. seat is blue with "350X" printed on side. Lots of low down torque but not terribly user friendly for hot starts!

    1986 - G First Gen
    Second model ATC350X, few changes from last model, front and rear fenders go from red to white, revision to front brake caliper. Seat has "ATC" printed on side.
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    Nice, Im going to use this a lot, no more guess work.
    Last edited by 81ATC185S; 02-05-2016 at 10:27 AM.
    1983 ATC 185s 200 jug bored .20 9.5:1 Naumura piston. Fast as ass when its not stretching the drive chain or stripping hubs.
    1986 ATC 250ES. *Total garbage trying to sell it*
    1983 YTM 200E. Runs good, forks are super bent but aside from that its mint.
    1984 YTM 200L. Barn find, everything is mint except the bottom end is bad... *waiting on a new engine*

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    another thing that i know of for the atc200 and 185 series is that the machines used the wire harness part number for each year, ex: 1983 185s and 1983 atc200 both used the same wire harness part number.
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    Yea I didn't read them all, but the 250es was made based on the 200es, just basically everything is different lol.

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    I wish it was more complete and less of just a looking at a picture perspective I suppose.

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    Maybe we could all submit known changes to you and you could update the original post? Just an idea.

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    There actually quite a few differences between the '85 and '86 250r. Many differences are subtle, but a few are not...


    Good list though. If it listed every single difference in every model along the way, the first post would be 3 thread pages long! LOL!
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    85 350x has a 5 speed tranny same with the 85 250r.

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    The 1985 ATC250R has a 6 speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ride-red 250r View Post
    there actually quite a few differences between the '85 and '86 250r. Many differences are subtle, but a few are not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 350xtrike.rider View Post
    85 350x has a 5 speed tranny same with the 85 250r.
    I always thought this too, but another person told me they both are 6 speeds. I'm pretty sure my 86 machine that I swapped engines on has an 85 engine now, and it is a 6 speed.

    Service manual does not mention a difference assuming it is accurate.

    https://gyazo.com/3462ce610fe58ee74849b6e5694e7e41

    For other things it does have a 85 and after 85 note, so I suspect both are 6 speeds.

    https://gyazo.com/6c8597916187a102b17a8cacca728574




    I wouldn't be against updating the main post with more details, but to list every detail would be a list the full size of the post per model year of each machine lol. It would almost need to be on a blog or something more efficient for that kind of layout.

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    Both years of the 350x/liquid 250r are 6 speeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIDE-RED 250r View Post
    There actually quite a few differences between the '85 and '86 250r. Many differences are subtle, but a few are not...


    Good list though. If it listed every single difference in every model along the way, the first post would be 3 thread pages long! LOL!
    This is absolutely correct. I always say the list of identical parts between the 85-86 250r is substantially shorter than the list of actual differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350xtrike.rider View Post
    85 350x has a 5 speed tranny same with the 85 250r.
    Yes and the sixth gear on the 250r is for reverse. That is what the "r" stands for. Glamy uses reverse on his 250r when he cannot climb all the way up comp hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Clean View Post
    Yes and the sixth gear on the 250r is for reverse. That is what the "r" stands for. Glamy uses reverse on his 250r when he cannot climb all the way up comp hill.
    Lol.....poor glamy
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