Guns n' Gays...

[ironchop]

That's some scary legislation right there

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[Scootertrash]

I usually love it when I'm right…but sometimes I friggin' hate it…

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cal...Kw4?li=BBnbcA1

Here is where it all starts…note how the article also says the Gov REJECTED a proposal to increase penalties for stealing a gun…because criminals have more rights than you and I. Now the fed knows exactly who has the ammo…and it won't be long before people trying to be prepared suddenly find themselves on the no-fly list and have their 2nd amendment rights stripped. Sucks, but success favors the prepared and those now in a scramble can't say they didn't see it coming. #MolonLabe

Here's a little overveiw of what was passed and what wasn't:

Gun bills signed:

SB1235: Requires background checks for people who want to purchase ammunition, licenses for sellers of ammunition and sales data to be collected.
Practical impact on you: All online sales of ammo are done. All out of state purchases of ammo are done. No road trips for ammo that you plan on bringing back into CA. I would expect that most vendors will refuse CA sales out of state as it is too much of a hassle to figure out the few exceptions, even if you have a FFL and COE, but that's just a guess.
AB1511: Limits who a gun owner can lend their firearm to.

Practical impact on you: Bans loans of longer than 3 days and loans for other than lawful purposes.
SB1446: Prohibits the possession of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

Practical impact/what it means to you: You have to either allow your mags over 10 rounds to be confiscated or move them out of state.


SB880: Expands the definition of “assault weapon.”

Practical impact on you: See explanation of AB1135


AB1135: Bans so-called “bullet buttons,” a tool developed by gun manufacturers that allows magazines to easily detach.

Practical impact on you: BB rifles, handguns and shotguns that are centerfire are now officially AWs as configured with a BB and must be registered as an AW with the DOJ. You will no longer be able to purchase a current generation BB firearm in CA. Once registered as an AW, it can not be passed down to your kids, you can't let someone over 18 use it, and there are more strict laws on transport and use. You can go featureless to comply and not need to register since you own an AW and the law doesn't have different kinds of AWs. 80% with BB must either be engraved and registered or go featureless. It seems that the CA legislature has opened up a window for those who want to register and have fully functional AWs with real mag releases, folding stocks, .50 BMG uppers, etc. to do so, and it seems that smart people will allow BB stuff to keep going as is. Looks like there are already fully compliant gen-2 BBs hitting the market. "BB" denotes "Bullet Button", not "bb gun"

AB1695: Makes it a misdemeanor offense to make a false report to law enforcement that a firearm has been lost or stolen.

Practical impact on you: Can't falsely report lost or stolen firearms. My opinion is that they're paving the way for confiscation. No more boating accidents.

Gun bills vetoed:

AB1176: Would have asked voters to make it a felony to steal a gun or buy a stolen gun, regardless of value.

AB1673: Would have expanded the definition of firearm to include parts that could be used to make a firearm.

AB1674: Would have made it illegal to purchase or transfer more than one firearm, including rifles and shotguns, within 30 days.

AB2607: Would have expanded who can seek a gun-violence restraining order to temporarily prohibit a person from purchasing a gun or ammunition.

SB894: Would have made it a crime for gun owners to fail to report a firearm as lost or stolen within five days.

If DOuHCe was still here, he'd be telling everybody "They're not coming for your guns, you guys are all paranoid"


All of this will eventually come to a state near you. Or, more likely, the one you live in. What are you going to do to at least TRY to stop it? Do you belong to the NRA? Do you belong to ANY gun rights organization? Why not?

Are you going to vote this fall? "Well, both candidates suck, so I'm going to vote with my conscience and vote 3rd party for that Johnson guy. He's Libertarian"

Gary Johnson said he agrees with Bernie Sanders 73% of the time.
"Gov. Gary Johnson, the Libertarian Party candidate for president, said that he agrees with 73 percent of what Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) says, citing that libertarians agree with socialism as long as it’s voluntary."
He can get bent.

His pick for VP(Bill Weld) has voted in the past for gun control legislation. Of course, he now has seen the error of his past ways and will do nothing but stand up for the rights of gun owners.

The thing I've learned about voting? It's not necessarily who you vote IN, it's who you vote to KEEP OUT.

If you think that by not voting somehow you've "held your ground" or "didn't contribute to the downfall of the country" you're wrong. While you may not have voluntarily taken a bite of the sh!t sandwich, you will have the sh!t rammed down your throat instead, without bread and nothing to wash it down with. Then you can p!ss and moan as your money and rights are taken from you by the Progressives/Socialists and passed on to the non-producers of this country.


Disclaimer: The use of the terms "you" and "your" are not indicative of any particular individual member of this site or poster in this thread. YMMV

ETA: Added bold parts in quote

[DohcBikes]

They're not coming for your guns. You guys are all paranoid.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Check out the NY Safe act of 2013...... that's what we here in NY have been saddled with.

[tripledog]

Check out the NY Safe act of 2013...... that's what we here in NY have been saddled with.

And look at the impact it had on ammo prices. 22 caliber ammo prices soared while supply dwindled, and people hoarded what they could get. I can only imagine how expensive large caliber ammo is now.

[ironchop]

The Libertarian party is going off the rails.

Libertarians (classical) are somewhat Left-oriented. That much is fact. Gary Johnson likes open borders too however saying Libertarians like Socialism just like Bernie is BS. Voluntary Socialism is "charity" . Bernie wants you to volunteer more of your paycheck to pay for forced Socialism. Either Johnson is lying, a moron, or the party of Ron Paul has been subverted. No thanks.

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[DohcBikes]

The POTUS is selected and installed by corporate tyrants. The entire election process is a manipulative distraction. Your vote means absolutely nothing.

Learn to swim.



As opposed to all of the nonsense, here's something worth listening to.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Tripledog: my center fire ammo remains quite cheap.....I make my own.

Damon: love me some Steve n Seagulls!!

[tripledog]

This thread really got me thinking, and I bought 3 extra clips for my 10/22 before they become extinct. I inherited all of Dad's .22 LR ammo, as well as a very nice Remington 870 pump. I have never fired a shotgun in my life, but at least now I have a bit more protection at home.

[ironchop]

That 870 is the ultimate home defense weapon. Good choice.

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[tripledog]

That 870 is the ultimate home defense weapon. Good choice.

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My avatar begs to differ.

[DohcBikes]

^ Does he also beg for table scraps?

Mossberg 500 by my bed at all times.

[tripledog]

^ Does he also beg for table scraps?

Mossberg 500 by my bed at all times.

He's a she. I'm the one begging for scraps.

[DohcBikes]

"The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relenquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government." - Henry Kissinger