'86 ATC 250R, Build Thread http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...highlight=250r
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Pile of Tecate Parts
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'86 ATC 250R, Build Thread http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...highlight=250r
'86 "Factory Tri racing" Tri-Z http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...b-Top-Tank-ect
Pile of Tecate Parts
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Got a rare spring day off of work and I took advantage of it.
One of the things holding me up was deciding what to use as a supply hose from the rear master reservoir to the rear master cylinder.
I trolled around FeeBay until I located a 12" long piece of hose shielded in stainless braid for a mere $7 shipped. I determined how long of a piece of that section I would need and then I wrapped it tightly in duct tape and used an air powered die grinder cutoff wheel to cut it.
I think that the worst part about metal braided line (besides that it holds heat as much as it 'shields" anything, which is not necessarily good) is that after you cut it, you stab your fingers a thousand times with the frayed ends. I also needed a way to wrap the ends up nicely for aesthetic reasons. Enter shrink tubing.
I trimmed the tubing so that it was too long and would shrink over the ends of the hose to help keep the stabby stuff fenced in.
I trimmed off the excess shrink tube in a way that the wrapped over part remained. I planned on using stainless hose clamps and I'm off to the hardware store right after this post for some of those. I shot a pic of the line mocked up.
I also took my seat, fender hardware, and new rear fender from Maier via the vendor ZMPerformance and bolted everything together for now. I've wanted to mock it up with the tank on to check the seat fit. I spent extra time when I was upholstering the seat to make sure and pull the cover tight enough at the front so the front of the seat wouldn't curl up as they have a tendency to do. Everything looks fine for a rider and it came out better than I thought so I think we're good there. I haven't decided if I'll run the oem wire fender support or not, but the fenders came with new hardware to attach two 'L' brackets to the new fenders so the oem support wire can be utilized.... I'm open for advice on the matter.
I also always liked MD's sticker choice on the front fender of his 200X racer build, so I totally copied the idea with no regrets. So Mickey gets credit for that feature.
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Last edited by ironchop; 04-28-2019 at 01:59 PM.
Looking real nice! I found these hose end covers while working on a different project a while ago, they maybe what your looking for the clamps (they’d cover up those fine metal braids too) and come in many colors/sizes. Your a brave man cutting that braided hose! I’d be bleeding just looking at it. This is just a quick eBay screen shot for an example-
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I had forgotten about those. Used them when I was a much younger man in a couple of cars I messed around with (I didn't have any skills then, so I was just messing around)
I might still go that route. It's not like it's a very expensive dress up part so you get high bling value for pennies haha
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- 1985 Honda 250SX
- 1985 Honda 350X
- 1985 Honda 350X
- 1986 Honda 250R
“I Love The 350x. It’s So Bad”
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You are correct.
They sent two little L brackets and some nuts/bolts/washers to attach those brackets to the fender after you drill a couple of holes. I'm not too keen on having shiny bolt heads hanging off my fender on each side like a sore thumb but if it is as beneficial as it is an eyesore, I'll consider it. Otherwise, I don't want a drill anywhere near my shiny $250 rear fender.... Plus I'm missing the OEM support wire and that would need to be procured, but they ain't cheap or plentiful
Here's a few wires and brackets I found that didn't seem overly expensive.
http://www.2040-parts.com/85-86-atc2...-atc-i2007007/
http://www.2040-parts.com/85-86-atc2...-atc-i2007006/
https://picclick.com/1985-1986-Honda...003482068.html
https://www.ebay.com/p/1985-85-250r-...0r/15011496779
https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_odkw...et&_sacat=6028
It looks to me like you can fabricate the 2 loops the wire goes into then simply glue them to the fender. Low grade .090" thick aluminum should work and should be pliable enough to make it conform to the fender with a little hammaring etc. The secret is finding the best adhesive for the app and making the brackets a decent size. The larger the contact area is, the less likely it is they will come unglued. I would shoot for at least 2 square inches of contact area with a little more like 2.5 being even better.
Unfortunately, the adhesive I use to use has been discontinued. It was killer stuff and I used it for a ton of things, including gluing nearly half a prototype jet ski together that I had to fabricate at Kawasaki, but there are some others I have not tried yet that should work and are listed below. You can call 3M and see if you can talk to someone in the Adhesives division and tell them what you are wanting to do and they should be able to tell you which product will work best for your app.
I would sand the bracket and fender with 80 grit then clean both with rubbing alcohol, as lacquer thinner and some other solvents can adversely affect some plastics, and thereby reduce their ability for the adhesive to hold, but you can ask 3M about that as well.
1 (888) 364-3577
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...8716717&rt=rud
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...8716717&rt=rud
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Scotch-Wel.../dp/B000X57YI8
https://www.autobodytoolmart.com/dur...7-p-10766.aspx
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...94857497&rt=r3
You could also just buy this NOS fender for only $4,499.00 (only $85.00 more for shipping ) but you better hurry cuz the ad ends in just 4 days.
https://picclick.com/NOS-Honda-ATC-2...730792683.html
- 1985 Honda 250SX
- 1985 Honda 350X
- 1985 Honda 350X
- 1986 Honda 250R
“I Love The 350x. It’s So Bad”
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Thanks for the links, Barn. I'm going to look into using that adhesive. I like that idea.
Lunch break fun.... Nothing major.... Tying up loose ends
I made something that replaces the factory upper shock bolt seals that I can't find anywhere.
No, they don't have rubber seal lips but I cut them .002 bigger than the outer sleeve so that they would still move freely but not have a major gap in there where debris can work underneath
I also polished the sleeve up a little.
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If you want, you can use felt or sponge foam and make a couple 1/4" wide washers that will catch a lot of the dust etc. You can also buy them online.
xlnt, it's easy to overthink things, at least for me. I have a habit of doing that, then I go back to basics and try to think of the simplest, fastest, and cheapest solution etc, and often end up much more in that area. They actually use felt washers as seals on a lot of the vintage dirt bikes on the brake arm where the arm sticks out thru the brake backing plate. The earlier Jaguars even use a dense felt strip as a bushing for the steering column shaft. I found this out when I had a sloppy steering column on one of my old Jaguars and removed the mounting bracket and saw a piece of felt stuffed in there, so I figured someone just put the felt in there to reduce the slop instead of getting the poper bushing, so I went to the dealer and told them I needed the steering column bushing and they brought out another piece of felt.
I bet you felt like the dealer was steering you in the wrong direction. Such is the fabric of today’s society, I guess.
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