America grows a set

[El Camexican]

I thought he gave a great speech last night. His most Presidential by far. Scripted, I know, but at times like this they should be. I also think he did the right thing too. Russia, Iran, N. Korea and China have all been feeling empowered to act at will for the past 8 years. Nice to see the defenders of Democracy do more than just talk again.

Wondering what you guys think? Tons of negative comments over this on the net, I’m wondering if that's just the left bitching for the sake of bitching, or if “real Americans” think it was the wrong thing to do as well? I’m hoping America’s allies take this as a signal that it’s safe to end the era of point, cry and retreat and instead unite for the greater good again when needed.

One thing's for sure, last night’s events should end any rumors about Russia having any power over Trump.

[Scootertrash]

In before the "Rich globalist fabricated war for oil media fabricated fake nerve gas attack that killed babies all so America can control the world" conspiracy theorists.

As far as I'm concerned: Good shoot. F Syria.

What will Fabio's buddy Putin have to say?


ETA: The Jews are responsible for this. There, now glamy will be happy too.

[atc007]

I had to get to bed. What did I miss? Nothing will surprise me though... Told ya so??!! lol... Considering how powerless the president actually is. I have been very very happy so far.

[El Camexican]

He fired almost 5 dozen Tomahawks into Syria. Proudly developed in Canada amidst the crys and tears of our local pussy pacifists back in the 80's I might add.

[redsox]

Why do we always hafta be the cowboy riding in to save the day? I guess it was a good move. But i'm not thrilled on where it could take us. You can't gas kids. I get it. The country has no appetite for another war and President Trump won't get the support. Couldn't someone else field this one while we get our s together here at home? Other countries care about kids, don't they? I fear that our enemies want to weaken us by sucking us into a fight. "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." -Eddie Murphy (or maybe it was Sun Tzu)

[El Camexican]

Why do we always hafta be the cowboy riding in to save the day?

In my OPIONON (as I am not an expert on the subject) your leaders came late to the party in WWII when they should have been there from the start and quite frankly pulled some pretty shady sh*t that got your dollar to be the International trading standard and allowed some people that should have been executed for war crimes to live comfortably in the USA and develop your military and space programs that put you at the front of the pack. There were also concessions offered for other nations to back off military developments that exceeded the technology of the US at the time, like the Avro Arrow. In many, many, many other instances around the world the USA has bought favor and influence with your tax dollars and the blood of your youth, but in my OPINION (again) the overall result for the USA as well as the countries that have sided with the perception of democracy has been worth it when one considers the alternatives out there.

In short, the USA took the responsibility of being "Globocop" on by their own actions and I for one appreciate it, regardless of how flawed, corrupt and occasionally misguided it may seem.

My $0.02

[3 Wheel Drive]

Trump is just getting started!

[fabiodriven]

Scooter the very term "Conspiracy theorist" is a trigger term invented to subconsciously trigger those who might be listening to dismiss the words of said "theorist". A more appropriate title would be a "hypothesis proponent", thank you.

Speaking from a point of ignorance as the only reason I even know we've fired missiles into Syria is because it was stated in this thread, I can assure you of one thing; actions such as these are always taken with your "approval". Murica was all revved up, writing songs, praying, and slapping yellow magnetic yellow ribbons on their cars while going to save the planet from Saddam and his weapons of mass destruction. Then we got there and there weren't any. Oops! Well while we're here, let's trash this dump and take the oil! I must be crazy to think there may be hidden truths about the energy companies. They'd never do that.

And the US would never goad you into standing behind them on an attack, would they? As I said, I don't know what happened in Syria, but many times the truth is found in directing your attention away from said event and look at what it causes. There is where the truth lies, because I can promise you that you will never find the truth in the direction they're pointing for you to find it. So if I look the other way, what do I see? I see you guys, which is a tiny representation of the population. I see your approval of this country sending airborne death and destruction. I assume you're supposed to be backing this, that this is a generally accepted move as far as America is concerned.

Because all of the military moves America makes are made with the overwhelming support of the American people who are informed in a country of misinformation, this should be treated no different than any other false flag this country has purported in the past. That doesn't automatically make this particular event a false flag event, however every event such as this should be treated as one.

The firing of missiles and ending of lives has become the norm for the human race and is glorified to keep it an acceptable act amongst the public. America has had so few attacks on her soil and it's very easy for spectators to sit by and cheer. They've made it that way.

Basically what I'm trying to say is, when was the last time America took military action that the general public didn't approve of?

[knappyfeet]

I wouldn't have done it.

In the end it won't mean anything.

[ironchop]

Well I give a f@#k about American kids and only American kids. I'd rather drop 14 trillion on cleaning up our own @#$& neighborhoods than bombing a rebuilding things that serve the interest of the global elite led by (((Soros))).

I don't fall for media lies anymore. They have lied about the reasons for involvement in every skirmish, war, or global police action and frankly pics of six dead people isn't enough to make me care about the Middle East anymore. These people lie and are not to be trusted. They destroy and destabilize to suit their agenda of Pillage and they get us all to sign on by hollering about "muh freedoms that they hate" "muh Constitution" "human rights!" "Democracy!" "Tolerance!"

Republican or Democrat.....Doesn't matter they both want war. The difference is that a Liberal will lie thru their teeth while a Republican​ is open about it.

I'm not sure how bombing some brown people saves them from chemical attacks but ABC, FOX, CNN, MSNBC all say it's true and logical so it must be.

The fact that NOBODY seems to notice how HAPPY BOTH SIDES of the aisle were when this happened should be a glaring indication that this is bad for us and good for them.

Hillary has called for this all week while Liberals pretend STILL that Democrats are the party of peace. Trump basically just followed the advice of Hillary Clinton and as far as I'm concerned, the honeymoon is over for me. That doesn't do anything that isn't dirty, illegal, and benefits these freaks like her so now I'm forced to concede that the fix is in. Funny how they all hate one another until bombs drop and then they are all salivating and cashing dividend checks just like when they wrecked the sovereignty of the Ukraine to serve a Natural Gas contract for Bidens son.

You got me once with "weapons of mass destruction" and coupled with the fact that everything media said for the last 18 years is now in question means you won't fool me again. Calling me a conspiracy theorist won't sway me either.

Oddly, alot of folks who distrust the news media suddenly swallowed this "chemical attack" (a tired cliche by now used five times before to justify an intervention) story hook, line, and sinker.

You don't attack a country who DID NOT attack you until Congressional approval....That's the law here so I'm not sure why the Constitution crowd is ok with executive attacks? Obama drones ppl and we yell "Impeach!" but if Trump does it..."well did you see those dead kids?"

This thing serves a global corporate cabal of wannabe global socialists while enjoying the support of conservative and liberal alike.

One side yelling "but Soros influenced elections"

The other side yelling "but Russia influenced elections"

All the while Republicans pretend to despise Obamacare and Socialism by refusing to repeal it. Democrats pretend to hate war while waging one every administration they control.

Y'all do realize this makes FIVE presidents in a row who started some bombing or invasion campaign in one of Israels neighbors? Sorry but I'm not bothered by the "antisemite" name calling so I'll call a spade a spade. Those aren't biblical Hebrews therefore I owe them NOTHING as a Christian man. They have NEVER shed blood to help Americans and so I feel no loyalty to Zionism or the complete racism that they support in their own country while protesting the racism in ours.

A country who needs your protection 24/7 is not an ally. It's a liability. If you think pragmatism makes you anti-Semitic, then I can't help you.

I'm tired of leaving American blood and American dollars in a sand dune because Holocaust™

Funny how Israel is doing all the boo-hooing playing scared but doing none of the fighting. And please, shooting people thru the fence they are trapped inside for throwing rocks isn't fighting. That's just being a twatwaffle.

So you think they made a brave decision to act on the attack? Yeah well those "brave" leaders get to hide in a stocked bunker when the ICBMs fly. It isn't their kids dying, it's yours. They get to hide in a mountain....Like cowering sissies...How brave is that?

I want AIPAC out of the country and anything that supports anymore of these CUCK Neo-Cons.

Flame me if you want. I simply don't care.

Syria supposedly gassed their own people so we attacked. North Korea has been threatening us and posturing for decades and we hide from him and pretend he doesn't exist. NOTHING brave or noble about that. Bowing up on the tiny kids but hiding from the bigger ones doesn't make you tough.



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[83ATC185]

To me its just proof of the way things are. Trump says "Make America great again!" and gets elected. Then immediately seems to lose focus on the American problems he promised we were going to "fix together". Then he gets the US involved in a place we have no business being, wasting our tax dollars in what amounts to an International Dick Swinging Championship. And you have people on the left saying, "oh those poor children", pointing to tattle on the rule breakers, and people on the right saying "show them who's boss"
All while Democrats and Republicans pretend to be against each other.

All while our own children and veterans go hungry in the streets. What else is new?

[Scootertrash]

By dinner the usual media subjects will be claiming missiles hit orphanages, hospitals, schools, and homes for single goat mothers.

[knappyfeet]

Well I give a f@#k about American kids and only American kids. I'd rather drop 14 trillion on cleaning up our own @#$& neighborhoods than bombing a rebuilding things that serve the interest of the global elite led by (((Soros))).

I don't fall for media lies anymore. They have lied about the reasons for involvement in every skirmish, war, or global police action and frankly pics of six dead people isn't enough to make me care about the Middle East anymore. These people lie and are not to be trusted. They destroy and destabilize to suit their agenda of Pillage and they get us all to sign on by hollering about "muh freedoms that they hate" "muh Constitution" "human rights!" "Democracy!" "Tolerance!"

Republican or Democrat.....Doesn't matter they both want war. The difference is that a Liberal will lie thru their teeth while a Republican​ is open about it.

I'm not sure how bombing some brown people saves them from chemical attacks but ABC, FOX, CNN, MSNBC all say it's true and logical so it must be.

The fact that NOBODY seems to notice how HAPPY BOTH SIDES of the aisle were when this happened should be a glaring indication that this is bad for us and good for them.

Hillary has called for this all week while Liberals pretend STILL that Democrats are the party of peace. Trump basically just followed the advice of Hillary Clinton and as far as I'm concerned, the honeymoon is over for me. That doesn't do anything that isn't dirty, illegal, and benefits these freaks like her so now I'm forced to concede that the fix is in. Funny how they all hate one another until bombs drop and then they are all salivating and cashing dividend checks just like when they wrecked the sovereignty of the Ukraine to serve a Natural Gas contract for Bidens son.

You got me once with "weapons of mass destruction" and coupled with the fact that everything media said for the last 18 years is now in question means you won't fool me again. Calling me a conspiracy theorist won't sway me either.

Oddly, alot of folks who distrust the news media suddenly swallowed this "chemical attack" (a tired cliche by now used five times before to justify an intervention) story hook, line, and sinker.

You don't attack a country who DID NOT attack you until Congressional approval....That's the law here so I'm not sure why the Constitution crowd is ok with executive attacks? Obama drones ppl and we yell "Impeach!" but if Trump does it..."well did you see those dead kids?"

This thing serves a global corporate cabal of wannabe global socialists while enjoying the support of conservative and liberal alike.

One side yelling "but Soros influenced elections"

The other side yelling "but Russia influenced elections"

All the while Republicans pretend to despise Obamacare and Socialism by refusing to repeal it. Democrats pretend to hate war while waging one every administration they control.

Y'all do realize this makes FIVE presidents in a row who started some bombing or invasion campaign in one of Israels neighbors? Sorry but I'm not bothered by the "antisemite" name calling so I'll call a spade a spade. Those aren't biblical Hebrews therefore I owe them NOTHING as a Christian man. They have NEVER shed blood to help Americans and so I feel no loyalty to Zionism or the complete racism that they support in their own country while protesting the racism in ours.

A country who needs your protection 24/7 is not an ally. It's a liability. If you think pragmatism makes you anti-Semitic, then I can't help you.

I'm tired of leaving American blood and American dollars in a sand dune because Holocaust™

Funny how Israel is doing all the boo-hooing playing scared but doing none of the fighting. And please, shooting people thru the fence they are trapped inside for throwing rocks isn't fighting. That's just being a twatwaffle.

So you think they made a brave decision to act on the attack? Yeah well those "brave" leaders get to hide in a stocked bunker when the ICBMs fly. It isn't their kids dying, it's yours. They get to hide in a mountain....Like cowering sissies...How brave is that?

I want AIPAC out of the country and anything that supports anymore of these CUCK Neo-Cons.

Flame me if you want. I simply don't care.

Syria supposedly gassed their own people so we attacked. North Korea has been threatening us and posturing for decades and we hide from him and pretend he doesn't exist. NOTHING brave or noble about that. Bowing up on the tiny kids but hiding from the bigger ones doesn't make you tough.



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I wish I could like this twice

[ironchop]

By dinner the usual media subjects will be claiming missiles hit orphanages, hospitals, schools, and homes for single goat mothers.

I'm surprised they aren't already.

This thing is media mileage for pundit shows on both sides for the next 3 weeks or until a trans-gendered whoosy-whatsit gets mad about a bathroom sign and we all pay no attention to the Man behind the curtain cause Bruce has breasts now and needs your validation.

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[fabiodriven]

By dinner the usual media subjects will be claiming missiles hit orphanages, hospitals, schools, and homes for single goat mothers.

And you know for a fact that didn't happen? Why is this? Because your preferred supplier of propaganda says the contrary?

As I said, this is spectator sport for almost everyone commenting here as well as those who decide to send death to others. It's extremely easy for Americans to sit here and comment because they know everything, they know we're right, and there is no telling them otherwise due to the egos instilled in the modern American citizen these days. As Doug said, Trump isn't there watching these missiles land, his kids aren't there holding rifles, and none of them are digging bodies out of debris.

If you knew what it was like to have you or your family's homes fired bombed and reduced to rubble with no warning then you might understand how to TRULY view another country with disdain. If you've never seen up close and in the flesh what happens to your culture when your city is reduced to rubble then you just wouldn't understand, period. These are human lives, and if anyone believes US bombing only hits bad guys you had better think again. You're not told the truth initially, but it can always be found eventually if one seeks it.

If it's required I can start posting link after link of your government lying to you as well as their media, and I can show you how many civilians get bombed for doing nothing more than existing in their respective country. When the star spangled missiles start destroying your town, to me that's more than enough reason to despise the place in which those missiles originated. If a Russian ICBM took you out in a completely different part of our country and I was physically untouched, that by no means indicates that I am unscathed.

Human farking lives here people, actual lives are on the line. This is not a farking movie and the reality of these constant actions need sorely to be considered.

Obviously I was eluding to the fact that I have seen what intentional destruction and complete disregard for your fellow man ends up looking like in the flesh, and I can assure you it is not a pretty sight and something a huge part of our population is so far removed from that it's beyond concerning. Your news show is not going to come on and explain to you how many innocent people were killed in this bombing or the true meaning behind it, period, end of story. Just about every time this happens it's for financial gain for those who never get their hands dirty at the cost of "lowly" lives such as mine. America needs some serious deprogramming and I honestly feel if those who push the button from the other side of the planet had to spend some time pulling the four year old girl off her father's corpse, or digging through the rubble of a home looking for any signs of their worldly possessions, or watched tanks roll by what used to be their home day in and day out, or watch their neighbors forcefully and violently removed from their homes in the middle of the night not knowing if your door is to be kicked in next, perhaps they may *start* to understand.

These are human lives we are talking about and this is not a movie. Our soldiers are not chess pieces and not everyone killed and effected by war is guilty. We all lose, everyone. The only people who gain from war are those whose hands remain clean, and they gain in dividends which are difficult for us to even imagine, not that we'd try. We're too busy killing each other and cleaning up the mess, then doing it again because we never seem to farking learn.