//ArrowChat Code
Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: 250ES shifter won't return up on downshifts

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Vancouver Island, B.C., Canada
    --
    812

    250ES shifter won't return up on downshifts

    This trike runs great, has been maintained, no issues riding for the past few years. Was out riding on the weekend, and all of a sudden when I downshift, the shifter won't pop back up. I have to put my toe under the lever and manually bring the shifter back. Doesn't happen when upshifting, only when downshifting. On top of this, it wouldn't shift out of neutral into first while running. Turned the trike off and kicked the left crankcase with my boot hoping this would free up something as I was in the middle of nowhere. Luckily it did engage into first and I was able to upshift from there and limp it home.

    I've done some searching on this issue (seems to happen with the SX as well), but just wanted to clarify one thing...is it best to start with opening the left crankcase cover or the right to inspect what's going on?
    1985 Honda ATC 250ES
    1985 Honda ATC 250SX
    1984 Honda ATC 200M
    1983 Honda ATC 200
    1984 Honda ATC 110

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    s.w. michigan
    --
    6,500
    Left side. Fairy straight forward repair with perhaps some re-welding + grinding.
    Or simpler hopefully,,,, perhaps spring come unhooked.

    john
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 20171011_153840.jpg   20171011_153823.jpg  
    Last edited by jeswinehart; 10-11-2017 at 03:35 PM.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    NEPA
    --
    7,048
    Yep. Remove your stator cover. You will find a loose or broken off stud. Simple fix
    Please help those who cannot help themselves.

    ALWAYS buying Museum quality machines,3 and 4 wheels. And any and ALL ,NOS parts,EVERY brand.

    I am turning my PM's Off,my Email is billsracing@hotmail.com,put 3WW in the subject. Thanx!

    Gun laws do not stop criminals. BULLETS do.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Vancouver Island, B.C., Canada
    --
    812
    Alrighty then! Ha ha. Thanks guys...I'll remove the left cover and report back with my findings. atc007 do you know which stud I should be looking for in the diagram jeswinehart posted?
    1985 Honda ATC 250ES
    1985 Honda ATC 250SX
    1984 Honda ATC 200M
    1983 Honda ATC 200
    1984 Honda ATC 110

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    NEPA
    --
    7,048
    Please help those who cannot help themselves.

    ALWAYS buying Museum quality machines,3 and 4 wheels. And any and ALL ,NOS parts,EVERY brand.

    I am turning my PM's Off,my Email is billsracing@hotmail.com,put 3WW in the subject. Thanx!

    Gun laws do not stop criminals. BULLETS do.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Vancouver Island, B.C., Canada
    --
    812
    Well, I popped off the left crankcase cover this weekend, and sure enough, the gear shift spring was broken. The broken piece fell out as I pulled the cover off (see picture). I have a new one ordered, as well as gaskets for crankcase cover, starter, and gearshift seal.

    You'll notice in the picture that I had to grind down a slight bit of the frame to get the cover off. Not sure why Honda made the clearance so tight there. Can't see why they couldn't have spaced the engine a quarter inch or so from the frame rather than almost no clearance at all! The other tricky part was getting the crankcase cover to come off! That old gasket had her holding on tight! Tapping with a rubber mallet and a lot of persuasion eventually did the trick. I can see now the hardest part of the whole repair is gonna be scraping the old gasket off! Ha haClick image for larger version. 

Name:	brokenspring.jpg 
Views:	24 
Size:	2.55 MB 
ID:	247092
    1985 Honda ATC 250ES
    1985 Honda ATC 250SX
    1984 Honda ATC 200M
    1983 Honda ATC 200
    1984 Honda ATC 110

//ArrowChat Integreation Code //