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    shadow5577

    Thanks for listening,
    I've certainly had my share of electrical problems in the past 50 years or so but this one bugging the heck out of me.
    I have a 1986 250ES 3 Wheeler in for service and when the customer dropped it off it ran and purred like a kitten. Well it sat in the spot he parked it for 3 days before I could make room on the table, I went out to bring it in and would not start, I pushed it in and up on the table and found that we had no spark . I've gone through everything I can think of so far. The unusual thing is that if it sits for a day or so I'll go over and check for spark for the hell of it since I have the spark plug hanging out and grounded so I can see right away if its there or not and low and behold it has spark, so I put the plug back in and it fires right up , sat there and idled for a couple minutes and even took acceleration without a problem, then all of a sudden within 2 minutes it shut down and again had no spark for the rest of the evening. it has done that twice so far. I have replaced the battery, spark plug , coil and cap. I'm thinking that the pulse generator might be giving out but the occasional spark is throwing me. I've tested the CDI as best as I could and unfortunately I don't have a known good one to throw in there for testing purposes. Sorry for the long Rant but has anyone out there have any ideas that I might be over looking ?
    Thanks in advance.

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    I have the same issue with my 250ES, I have yet to test the pulse generator, also have a new ignition on order ..... I replaced the CDI, coil, fuses, battery, spark plug .... I am at the point where I actually would like to redo the complete wiring loom. One day it runs perfectly, next day nothing ....
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    Take the ignition switch apart and make sure all the contacts are good and clean .
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortline10 View Post
    Take the ignition switch apart and make sure all the contacts are good and clean .
    This is why I have a new ignition on order, my current one is a little dodgy ....
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    I have an '85 250es and had a similar problem. CDI was getting flaky. It would idle "all day" but die after I got a few blocks from home. Wait about 30 seconds or a minute, hit the starter button a few more times and it would fire up and I could make it home. Now the 85 has a different cdi than the 86 and that issue was supposedly solved. Luckily for you, or your customer, the 4+2 cdi are cheap and available! Just a thought in case the switch doesn't fix it.

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    What have you tested when you have no spark? Was it in for this issue?

    As stated in post #4 about the kill switch. Check that.

    I have also heard of tapping the CDI unit with a screwdriver when you have no spark...
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