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Right off the bat, the width tells you if it's for an ATC or not.
The width should be the same width as a typical 200X 350X 250R front axle collar, because the speedometer gear housing takes that collars place. The tapered down collar, not the hat on the caliper side.
A bucket full of them I would think would be nearly all street bike speedometers; Similar but geared for a street bike front tire.....
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Ok I wasn't sure anything would be useable for parts on the atc ones or able to be converted to atc usage
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All the heads were for either MPH or KPH.
And the drives must match the head of course, so that's where Honda changed for a 25" tire or a 23" tire versus a street bike tire....
I'm sure many people have unknowingly bought the wrong drive because it fits. But the ATC drive is special for a more accurate speed.
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Okay, I have all the seals in my hands.Originally Posted by Jd110
Found a shim (little broken washer) at a local wreaking yard. It's the same as a Honda '76 cl.
1) Gear box pinion - 5x15x6
(Should be an I.D. of 4.5mm because that's what the pinion shaft measures at!! ) Single lip, but the only one I could get was a 5mm I.D. It is sealing it, and the Speedo cable grommets help keep out water and junk.
2) Gearbox to the driver seal - 27x36x6mm. Whichever I.D. of either 36mm and or 37mm, well, one will fit!!
3) Gearbox to the driver seal - for this same application, is apparently 27x37x7mm based on your findings.
4) 30x42x7mm is for the complete speedometer drive assembly, seal INTO the front hub.
So, on hand, I have 3, spring backed dual lip rubber coated seals and 1 single lip.
Does 20$ shipped work for the 4 seals shipped to you?? There 30% higher than they were....
And, once you figure out the 36mm and the 37mm discrepancy, we'll know what's up!!
I need your address....
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Okay, this thread is bringing back a thought I had on back burner for awhile now. DC, if I am reading this all correct you basically have all the seals covered right ?
So, if yes,,,, all that would be needed is the body, the drive gears,,, and what else ?
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DC, your a scholar and gentleman. Thanks for your time!!!
Ps. $20 is more than fair, bud. Make sure there's a return address
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John, glad to hear it's getting another go. The drive above I thought was cl, could be gl. Anyway, you can have it if you like.
It looks like this^^^^^
This looks like one for 200e^^^^^
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Kinda waiting to hear DC's input on this possible project. Like what all I would need to make mold of and such,,,
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Yes, but they won't be wide enough and are geared wrong.John, glad to hear it's getting another go. The drive above I thought was cl, could be gl. Anyway, you can have it if you like.
It looks like this^^^^^
This looks like one for 200e^^^^^
I gave you a rundown of all 4 seals, did you get that??
Let me get off the damn phone and see what's at 3WW.....
Steve
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Okay, got it all now
Well, the deal is, I could buy the pinion and ring gear and almost all the pinions were 7 or 8 teeth. I can no longer buy that gear set....
Took me YEARS to figure that out but I did well on EBAY....
John, Honda CASTS those aluminum b or d housings INTO a steel hollow shaft with a step on it's O'D' , (to keep it in place and from wobbling).
Every part of this project took so many hours, trials and failures. Machine a housing and press it in, then the housing decides to crack.
I challenge ANYONE to modify one of these for an ATC. It took allot of steel, seals, boring. turning, pressing and finish machining to get it right.....
Next post, a game!!
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Which drive WAS for a street bike? QUIZ FOR ALL!!Okay, got it all now
Well, the deal is, I could buy the pinion and ring gear and almost all the pinions were 7 or 8 teeth. I can no longer buy that gear set....
Took me YEARS to figure that out but I did well on EBAY....
John, Honda CASTS those aluminum b or d housings INTO a steel hollow shaft with a step on it's O'D' , (to keep it in place and from wobbling).
Every part of this project took so many hours, trials and failures. Machine a housing and press it in, then the housing decides to crack.
I challenge ANYONE to modify one of these for an ATC. It took allot of steel, seals, boring. turning, pressing and finish machining to get it right.....
Next post, a game!!
Everything is machined, bored, changed to fit the new gears that I could buy, depending on when and where the guts were made. Now I can only repair them, make them from scratch and or repair some of the Hondaline Parts.....
Left, right or middle are OEM and or modified??
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so, you got it all sorted out then, great !
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^ Well, we're all trying!!
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I guess the middle one. Just a guess cuz I really know diddly. Kind of hard telling without seeing the height of the round center shaft. They're fools gold.
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Steve, I sent you the payment through PayPal, last night. It might be a few weeks or so before I can get this on and working, but I'll try to get a picture of it in motion. Got a welding project, for the wifey to do, I'd like done by the 1st and of course I'll be assisting her.
For now, I'll sit a watch this paint dry. I had to respray after forming the lip on the ring, around the housing. Great tips from KbOnly, here a 3ww.
Could have spent more time on this:
Happy holidays, everyone!!!
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