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    Ok. So I have to assume all the washers in this assembly are mismatched and put in the wrong place. Since there is no real way to tell which is which I guess the only option is to buy all new washers from honda so that they come in individual bags with part numbers?

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    As far as buying another used trans, my question is what for? The washers or are you needing gears too? If just washers, I'd buy them and spec the rest of my trans parts and if they are within spec, then use them

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDQ View Post
    Ok. So I have to assume all the washers in this assembly are mismatched and put in the wrong place. Since there is no real way to tell which is which I guess the only option is to buy all new washers from honda so that they come in individual bags with part numbers?

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    Let me find out on a parts fiche

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDQ View Post
    I still did not figure out the lock washer and splined washer. The splined washer may be the wrong one.
    In this diagram I have indicated FIVE washers I have found to be missing. I supposed that explains the play in the countershaft since 4 of the missing washers belong on it.
    Can that also be the cause of the 2nd gear slip?
    It will cost about $30 to get these washers from the honda warehouse. Should I buy a complete used trans on ebay and trust it is in working condition?



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    Here ya go....sizes and part numbers



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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    Here ya go....sizes and part numbers



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    Do all thrust washers have smooth, round inside surfaces?

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    The sizes like "20mm" are the outside diameter of the washer

    Metric to inch conversion is 20mm ÷ 25.4 = 0.787 inches outside diameter.

    You can measure the washer ODs and put them in the right order from the fiche picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDQ View Post
    Do all thrust washers have smooth, round inside surfaces?

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    Yes

    Edit: there are thrust washers with splined IDs or round IDs with no splines

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    Yes

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    In that case there is at least one additional washer out of place. What a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDQ View Post
    In that case there is at least one additional washer out of place. What a mess.

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    Yeah both the #26 thrust washers in the pic are splined

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    So what is the difference between a splined washer and a thrust washer with splines? How can I tell which is which in my assembly?

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    #28 on the mainshaft are also splined too and could be confused with the splined ones on the countershaft,#26

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDQ View Post
    So what is the difference between a splined washer and a thrust washer with splines? How can I tell which is which in my assembly?

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    Beats me but you can tell the difference by their outside diameter measurements

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    #26 is 25mm OD or almost 1"

    #28 are 22mm or .866 (almost 7/8")

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    The splined washers dont spin, they really just keep the gears from grinding on the c-clips/there spacers also. If that makes sense. Heres a couple more pics but its really hard to see where your at.
    It probably would be a good idea to pick up another set of gears to take parts from. Just dont go for the cheap one, be sure to check out the sellers pics carefully. Click image for larger version. 

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    Was second gear slipping / just not engaging/ popping out of gear when on throttle? Details?
    Jeez u guys been busy, i’ll sit back and watch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shep1970 View Post
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    It probably would be a good idea to pick up another set of gears to take parts from. Just dont go for the cheap one, be sure to check out the sellers pics carefully.

    Was second gear slipping / just not engaging/ popping out of gear when on throttle? Details?
    Jeez u guys been busy, i’ll sit back and watch
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    Yeah I agree. I wonder what those gear dogs look like and the corresponding windows they lock into if those gears weren't spaced at all correctly.

    And no please keep posting. You're doing better than me and you have more experience with these than I do

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