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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    My oldest daughter is an elementary school teacher here in KY.

    She told my wife this morning that her schools unofficial policy was to NOT flunk or "hold back" any kids because it would hurt their feelings and damage them.....

    This is absolute madness

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    Yeah while I don't consider myself abused as a child, I just didn't hit my own kids. Wasn't my style and it didn't need to be thankfully. They all were pretty good kids.

    Having said that though, I can't think of anything my parents could have done differently to help me mature and quit being a dick head. I got what I asked for because I just wouldn't stop lying and screwing up. I would be horrified if any of my kids had been like I was as a child. It's a wonder I survived. Others didn't. I did get tired of getting hit and that's why I chilled out. Grounding your kids was a new idea at the time and I just snuck out and stole the family car anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    My oldest daughter is an elementary school teacher here in KY.

    She told my wife this morning that her schools unofficial policy was to NOT flunk or "hold back" any kids because it would hurt their feelings and damage them.....

    This is absolute madness
    I've also seen recent stories about a school that wanted a policy that if you are asked to Prom you can't say no, and another school that wants a policy of no "best friends".



    As far as the lack of family structure and parenting:

    When you don't get enough attention at home, you look elsewhere. It usually doesn't turn out well.
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    Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

    Liberalism suspends the intellect of its victims, while at the same time tricking them into believing that they're smarter than everyone else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

    Liberalism suspends the intellect of its victims, while at the same time tricking them into believing that they're smarter than everyone else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scootertrash View Post
    I've also seen recent stories about a school that wanted a policy that if you are asked to Prom you can't say no, and another school that wants a policy of no "best friends".

    When you don't get enough attention at home, you look elsewhere. It usually doesn't turn out well.
    This post needs an OMG button to push right under it instead of like and thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledcrazyinCT View Post
    The only reason I think video games add to the problem is the children playing them probably never held or fired a real gun. They just don't know what a real weapon is capable of doing.
    Heard a legislator suggest that maybe weapons be only sold to people over the age of twenty one. Cruz could legally buy the AR 15 yet not legal to buy a case of beer
    The ability to reset a life on a video game is something I’ve never liked, but I think now that it’s probably not the cause of this as the problem is almost exclusively American and the entire planet plays video games.

    I like the idea of a co-signer for gun purchases for first timers, but I doubt it would reduce this phenomenon much as there are a lot of guns out there.

    So what is different about America in the past 20 years than any other society on the planet is the question I’d ask in trying to understand what’s happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Camexican View Post
    So what is different about America in the past 20 years than any other society on the planet is the question I’d ask in trying to understand what’s happening.
    Yeah it's a tad more than just twenty years but this is the root question of my thread.

    It has to be an exclusively American phenomenon and that's why I was wondering if we have the most violence in entertainment here than other countries.

    What say you of this, world traveler?



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    No mass shootings in Australia in 20 Years.. Gun control changed that there. Plus it dosen't help that the media over plays this stuff, some beleive many mass shootings are copy cat ones..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    My oldest daughter is an elementary school teacher here in KY.

    She told my wife this morning that her schools unofficial policy was to NOT flunk or "hold back" any kids because it would hurt their feelings and damage them.....

    This is absolute madness

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    I failed grade 3. 1976. I have never heard of a child failing now. Even in High School they are VERY easy to let a child pass... Heck. I think they get grades for just showing up... Of course it is unofficial. LOL

    To be clear on my earlier post about 1,2,3. It was not about me hitting my kids. I have never. More of a bullying thing. If someone was bullying them at school. I taught my kids to try and defuse the situation. If it continues. I teach them not to "turtle" We are talking fists.

    Great thread BTW. Very interesting.
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    This thread is absolute gold. Wow. I've had a wild 72 hours and just caught up and read 5 pages. So great. I agree AND disagree with everyone. Except Glamy. So much to comment on, but it would derail. I'll digress, but I reserve the right to comment henceforth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Canadian View Post
    .... I have never heard of a child failing now. Even in High School they are VERY easy to let a child pass... Heck. I think they get grades for just showing up... Of course it is unofficial. LOL...
    My son and his friends burned one before welding class in highschool and his Chinese eyes and general stupor gave him away. So we get a call and have to go pick him up. Next thing you know, he's in "alternative school" which is basically a fast-track to a diploma and the easy route. I heard his friends talking about getting in trouble on purpose to get sent to Jackson Academy or Lighthouse Academy so they'd have less work, no homework, and graduate earlier.....all of these things my son did exactly so it has been confirmed.

    This episode was the worst thing our son ever did in school by far and the list is pretty short.

    So he burns one doob and gets shuffled off to the "at-risk" kid school where they don't get homework, he does lessons on his own on the computer with no real lessons or lectures by teachers, and he graduated half a year early. He scored top ten percent in the country on his college entrance exams but his school chose not to challenge him but to give him an easy exit. You are only an in a seat and that's how the state finds the school anyway so who cares? Out of sight, out of mind.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    My son and his friends burned one before welding class in highschool and his Chinese eyes and general stupor gave him away. So we get a call and have to go pick him up. Next thing you know, he's in "alternative school" which is basically a fast-track to a diploma and the easy route. I heard his friends talking about getting in trouble on purpose to get sent to Jackson Academy or Lighthouse Academy so they'd have less work, no homework, and graduate earlier.....all of these things my son did exactly so it has been confirmed.

    This episode was the worst thing our son ever did in school by far and the list is pretty short.

    So he burns one doob and gets shuffled off to the "at-risk" kid school where they don't get homework, he does lessons on his own on the computer with no real lessons or lectures by teachers, and he graduated half a year early. He scored top ten percent in the country on his college entrance exams but his school chose not to challenge him but to give him an easy exit. You are only an in a seat and that's how the state finds the school anyway so who cares? Out of sight, out of mind.



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    The way they dealt with that in my day when I got caught was
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    I got ISS (in school suspension) a lot, then there was regular old after school detention. I also had to go to summer school one year.

    ISS was a room somewhere in the school where the students being punished had to sit and do school work all day. Your teachers knew you had ISS so there were assignments given to you knowing you'd be sitting quietly all day. That's another thing. There was no talking, no getting up to stretch, lunch was brought to us, and that was it. We had to sit there all day in silence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAM shop View Post
    The way they dealt with that in my day when I got caught was
    A. Call parents
    B. Serve detention early bird gym, 6 am, run laps for an hour. Can't remember for how long but it sawked..Miss one morning start from scratch..
    I knew the cost of my screw ups, I knew what would happen when I screwed up..

    We coddle each other way to much these days. Kids in school get coddled, kids at home get coddled, and people at work get coddled. Nobody wants to hurt anyone's feelings. Bull hockey I say.

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