The Red Pill Thread

[OTAlucard]

I'm up late at night reading posts about the red pill again. The most recent one.

I've come to the conclusion that I'm not an ass grabber or slapper. But I have to be when the time is right to be competitive in this troubled market of messed up individuals.

All I can say is. People are rewarded for taking what they want. Not hiding in the corner pretending that they don't want it.

[fabiodriven]

First and foremost, what is on my mind now is that technically speaking, Tim is my mentor. I would like to take this opportunity to thank Tim with the utmost of sincerity and will remember for the rest of my life how Tim's efforts have manifested themselves in my life in such an amazingly positive way. As I post this, I am just under a year into TRP, or MGTOW. I can say with complete confidence and total honesty that my situation has taken a total 180 degree swing from where I was this time last year. As hopeless and down as I was last year, this year I am high on myself, almost arrogant, and I should be. If you're familiar with how I've been on this forum, sure, I started out quite ornery, but after I calmed down a bit I got quite dark, quite down. There haven't been a ton of "great news" threads in comparison to more serious and not quite so chipper subjects. I feel as though I am entitled to toot my own horn on this one, so frig off.

If you've been watching this or if you're just looking for the first time right now, this works, and I am proof.

I cannot recommend enough that every man study this subject. President Fabio's first order in office is going to be that MGTOW is a required course of study for all male students in high school. Maybe like 11th and 12th grade or something. My second order will be that Honda can no longer operate inside the US at any capacity unless they release a new line of ATC's. Now we all know the US would fall apart without Honda, but just don't tell them that. Seriously though, my life has been drastically improved due to a little effort studying these subjects, and a lot of effort on myself which will continue indefinitely. I want to stress to any man reading this who is looking to improve their lives, look into this subject. The hardest part is coming to grips with who you really are, that part can sting a bit for a minute. I remember thinking about what I was for at least a week after I figured it out. Once you figure that out, repairs can then begin if the student is willing to put in the time and effort it takes to get what they want from life. I have noticed that a lot of the people I know, dare I say most of the people I know, do not have the will nor the belief in themselves as a person to achieve things in life that they'd like to do. I seem to accomplish things that others can't for some reason, and it seems to happen more and more often. I often get told how lucky I am, and I am. Luck does exist and I am a truly grateful person for the life I have, however far too often luck is given credit where it isn't due. I pull things off a lot of the time, this happens quite often, and people observing will say "You lucky MF-er", when the truth is the outcome I got was exactly what I was expecting. It confuses me that others cannot see these things, but it happens to me often enough that I have picked up on the pattern of continually seeing these situations. I expect that other observers would see the same thing I am, but often they do not. Because it has happened so often, I have been able to study the phenomenon to a degree. I am somehow seeing things far beyond what most people are normally thinking, or most other people are just not seeing as far ahead as I am. These are the results I am gathering. Now, this translates to many aspects of life, but I have been able to see it repeatedly on the pool table. It's geometry and intuition, billiards has really grown on me. Well I'm far, far from an expert, but I have a decent pool game. Many, many times I see shots that happen so fast and look so haphazard, that of course the other players are going to assume it was luck. I have no way of showing them what I'm thinking ahead of time, and calling the shot isn't something I do because for me it has an effect when I call the shot ahead of time. But I digress...

My point before I got off track was that you have to put in the farking work, a lot of it, because very few things easy are worth doing in life. All that effort, all that sweat, all the intent you put into molding yourself into what you see fit, it all pays off in huge dividends in the end. Something you work so hard on has to succeed at some point. If you falter or if you're not happy with the way things are going, work friggin harder. You will get back what you put out and then some, invest in yourself, love yourself. It will not happen overnight, I have countless reps invested and it has taken me a long, long time to begin to start to be happy with how I look as a person. This discipline is something instilled in me from the army, but it is something any person is capable of if you have the constitution to rebuild a human being. I make suggestions to people, I suggest this subject and this very thread all the time. I also suggest people consider health options other than traditional on occasion, but very few take me up on these suggestions, which is fine. I've always marched to a different beat, my entire life is extenuating circumstances, which makes me calmer than most when things get hairy.

Over the last few months, because of TRP, I have been dating and succeeding at it. Starting a few months ago, I began to notice how the way women look at me has changed. It has taken a lot of work, I lift weights and do cardio regularly. Now, that's not saying I'm the Hulk, because I surer than shite ain't. I still need to gain more weight. I am fit and toned physically, but what also comes from lifting weights, swinging a maul, cutting logs, and stacking wood, is mindfulness and inner peace. You hear it all the time, body and mind. It is no secret that my health has been questionable, but the awful coldness that flowed through my body when I was at my sickest, that which I couldn't control and had to witness hijack my mind first hand (see thread "Lyme disease") and do with it the most awful things it could, is currently gone. Instead my veins are coursing with good things, really good things. I feel equally as elevated right now as I felt low at my worst, it's insane.

One thing I had to learn was how to take a compliment. I am a physically handsome guy and I happen to have a pretty good personality as well, which did me absolutely no good for years because I refused to believe that. What I learned in the time I spent with one of the recent women I dated was, I had to learn to accept compliments. She didn't stop me and teach me this willingly, she taught me with her own actions. She was a pretty good looking woman. She's the same age as me, 39 years old, no kids. Unfortunately for this woman, she has a terrible self image. Multiple times she put herself down until I wasn't able to see things any other way. If the exact same woman had smiled more and been more positive and loved herself, she would have been attractive to me. It was because of this that I realized how that particular aspect of who I am as a person is so off-putting to others, and such changed my behavior to something more pleasant to say in reply, but more importantly, admitting to myself that women do find me attractive.

As I said though, it took interaction with those of the opposite sex who I find attractive for me to figure out that women do desire me. I have said many times before that I am pretty good at telling when someone is bullshitting me. Through my interactions with multiple women, and not only just women I've dated, I learned by looking in their eyes, watching their mannerisms, and the things they say, how they truly feel about me. By observing these women I have gathered enough proof for me to truly convince myself that I am indeed a desirable man to many of them. As I've dated, the women have improved incrementally, like climbing a ladder. When I meet them initially I'm usually excited, too excited experience has taught me. Inevitably though, they have all become less interesting quite fast. We've had some fun though.

That's not to say that I haven't been turned down along the way, and that's an important situation to master as well. One must not fret if they finally meet a woman they like, only to find that she didn't feel the same way about you. It can hurt, it can be crushing, but only if you let it. Me, I have it pretty good all by myself, and that's another key as well. No woman is going to be your salvation and rescue you from depression and a terrible life outlook. One must love oneself before anyone else will, and just as I've come to terms with this and begun to love this being I am, the women have been coming from every angle. Now I have a choice when before my choice was left or right. I should be choosing though, and I should be choosy, because I bring a lot to the table. If anyone comes along looking to tie me down, by all means, it could happen, however it won't if the person doesn't absolutely blow my mind and benefit my life substantially. I have the luxury of having a pretty good life on my own, so you can make that better or move along, because nobody is bringing me down.

This all being said, I read along with this thread, I looked at and watched every link provided, and I took it all in. I only went through everything once though and felt like I had been away from TRP for a while, especially when I was off the forum for a few months. Regardless of the fact that I hadn't brushed up on any of it recently, it was all in my head and working flawlessly without me even thinking about it the entire time. I really took to it and it seems to have sunk right in. I am TRP, I am MGTOW, and I will help any man I can along the way just as Tim has helped me. As stated, this isn't just about women and dating, this is a lifestyle. This is an improvement overall to one's life and keeps the order of things the way they should be, as opposed to the modern media you all watch that crams gender-bending, gay relationships, interracial mixing, and whatever else is their agenda down your throats and tries to brainwash you into thinking that's normal. Please pay close attention, as I am not anti-gay, and I'm not opposed to different races getting together. I do not look at only white women to date and have no problems hanging out with people of other races. What I do not appreciate is how every commercial, every TV show, every movie (The Last Jedi), is a farking commercial for equality and it crams this bullshit down all of our throats. If you can't see it I'm not going to explain, I've been away from media for years longer than you all, but it's bullshit. It's bullshit because it's intentional and I don't need anyone else's intent imposed upon me. To show you how fine of a line we're talking about here, using the aforementioned movie "The Last Jedi". If you've ever seen the original Star Wars movies from the 70's and early 80's, the best ones, episodes 4, 5, and 6, then you know there are plenty of women and men of all races in those movies. Also the much more recent Star Wars "Rogue One", an absolutely excellent movie, is also chock full of men and women of all colors, yet none of those movies are cramming feminist or gay or mixed gender or anti white male bullshit down our throats the way "The Last Jedi" does. Most modern TV shows and movies are full of that crap, you've been warned. Keep your man card, read TRP instead.

So where I go from here is a question which will be answered tomorrow. I know nothing this evening of what will occur tomorrow, other than knowing that I will be meeting someone of potentially serious consequence. If me from last year walked up right now I'd tell him what he has coming, then I'd kick his arse.

Thank you Tim and all other participants in this thread.

[fabiodriven]

And I completely forgot, if you smoke cigarettes, they gotta go.

[Scootertrash]

as opposed to the modern media you all watch that crams gender-bending, gay relationships, interracial mixing, and whatever else is their agenda down your throats and tries to brainwash you into thinking that's normal. Please pay close attention, as I am not anti-gay, and I'm not opposed to different races getting together. I do not look at only white women to date and have no problems hanging out with people of other races. What I do not appreciate is how every commercial, every TV show, every movie (The Last Jedi), is a farking commercial for equality and it crams this bullshit down all of our throats. If you can't see it I'm not going to explain, I've been away from media for years longer than you all, but it's bullshit. It's bullshit because it's intentional and I don't need anyone else's intent imposed upon me. To show you how fine of a line we're talking about here, using the aforementioned movie "The Last Jedi". If you've ever seen the original Star Wars movies from the 70's and early 80's, the best ones, episodes 4, 5, and 6, then you know there are plenty of women and men of all races in those movies. Also the much more recent Star Wars "Rogue One", an absolutely excellent movie, is also chock full of men and women of all colors, yet none of those movies are cramming feminist or gay or mixed gender or anti white male bullshit down our throats the way "The Last Jedi" does. Most modern TV shows and movies are full of that crap, you've been warned. Keep your man card, read TRP instead.

I watch very little TV, but I am also very aware of and have the ability to see thru the "progressive" bullshyte pumped thru TV nowadays. Gun control, illegal immigration, "war on women", LBGTWTFBBQ, white mans fault bullcrap. Every movie nowadays has a political message, especially childrens movies, more left wing socialist programming, a continuation of what's pumped into them in the government run school system. The leftists in Hollywood have no imagination whatsoever. Nothing new, all they do is remake Classics into modern politically correct toilet fillings with no toilet paper.

I've watched this thread because it's somewhat amusing. All the crap you guys describe in here wasn't tolerated by most men when I was a teenager/young adult in the late 70's/80's. Oh yea, it happened, but not on the scale it does today. We called it being pussy whipped. We didn't treat women like sh!t or degrade them, but we didn't put up with the "If Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy" BS.

My ex (emphasis on "ex") sister in law tried that crap on me once at a family gathering at my home. I told her "If Momma ain't happy, tough sh!t, not my problem". She was shocked, shocked I say! That I had the audacity and balls to say that to her, and looked to my brother to defend her. My brother told her she was on her own She demanded an apology and I told her "My house, my rules. If you don't like it, don't let the door hitcha where the good lord splitcha". She ended up leaving and I gave my brother a ride home later. She demanded he leave with her "if he had any respect for her". She left by herself

I had to point out to a couple other women present who thought I was being a prick that when we were growing up we all were told multiple times by our parents "My house, My rules, If you don't like it you know where the door is" and we respected those rules. Sh!t ain't no different now.

Man I miss the old days!

[atctim]

Fabio - you do not know how happy this all makes me. Seriously - it changed me for the better too. I can not agree more with all of the comments in here. Hollywood has become a joke to "real" people. There is nothing on TV worth watching, yet people coming back for more even with huge price increases. Part of my job is "TV service provider" and I side with my customers. Too much money for very low quality TV shows. I can agree with why so many people are cutting the cord!

I am a recovering habitual news watcher. I would always watch Fox News, as to me it was biased the same way I am. I agreed with nearly 100% of what was broadcast from their studios. People forget that everyone has opinions, and you are going to align with people who have common biases. I have all but stopped watching news (and stopped reading it on the web too) because for me realizing the same snake has two heads is what leads people to hate others - for reasons that are designed into the this disgusting plot for one world law. Divide these people!!!!! I feel I am smart enough to make my own decisions regarding politics, law, and policies, and guess what.......Since I gave up following this soap opera, nothing has happened for the better or worse. Nothing is going to happen to us that will be life changing. It's a royal waste of time, and can be considered entertainment just like sports or print. I have a few shows that I will watch - mainly adult comedy cartoons such as Family Guy or Bob's Burgers. Truth be told, I love watching old programming from The Andy Griffith show to the Twilight Zone. That is what I like for entertainment - old, innocent programming. If the old shows did not have a nice moral to every story, the others like the twilight Zone at least make you think about things. Nothing on TV makes people think anything now - all mind numbing by design. Normalizing the circus our culture has become. This has also come from me turning much more towards the Bible and a devotion to my God. I will never preach to someone who has opposing views on the subject so I will leave it at that. If you want to talk to me about it, I am always here.

To sum up what I am saying - stop being blinded by all of the outside factors. We all know what is right and wrong. We all know what our society is built on and build from. We need to continue on the quest to be the best "me" we can be. Nothing else really matters. It is the outside factors that make us re-think our gut instincts.. Deep inside us all we have the strength and smarts to be the men we were designed to be. Lead fellas, lead! take control of you and the rest will fall into place. And always do things as you see fit, because chances are, if an outside factor is trying to influence you, against your gut - it will be wrong! Also - lest we never forget biology. A quick look into the animal world of mammals is what we have strayed from. I've yet to see any gay animals in the wild!

[ditchmud]

I too find myself drawn to this thread. It has changed my life for the most part. I have a long road to go and I often drift away from the self improvement portion of TRP, but the mindset is there and I believe it is set in stone now. I can see shyte test clearly and rarely fall for them. That alone has been a big improvement in my quality of life. I no longer feel used because I don’t let myself get used. I just need to work on my physical condition. I have a gym membership and I was going and working out hard. Even to the point that people were noticing my improvements. Then we went out of town for Thanksgiving to visit my son and when we returned I got pretty sick for about a week. Then after that it’s just been excuses. Pure laziness is my problem and It hurts to say and realize that truth. I need to overcome this barrier. It is my cross that I bear I guess. I always feel better when I go workout and I know it. I tell myself literally every day that today I am going back and then I don’t. Over and over I let myself down. Maybe today will be the day I finally go back and get to work on myself again? I’m sure to you all my problems seem so simple and I’m sure that you are probably 100% correct but I just struggle with this demon the way you all struggle with yours.

[fabiodriven]

The lessons never end, the game evolves, and it seems as though when you have every scenario covered, everything changes.

My progress continues and I am very happy with the direction I'm heading still, however I did have a date this past weekend which didn't end up with a second date. This was unfortunate in a way, as this particular young lady was of very high value. I don't aim to materialize her by referring to her as such, I would describe myself the very same way. As far as dating goes at my age (39), having never been married with no kids, my own home, financially stable, and physically in shape, that makes me of quite high value. Things such as no vehicle, having kids (just my preference, everyone is different), or just no direction or forward momentum in life take away value to me. Well I met a young lady who checked off all the correct boxes, she had it everywhere, and she was seven years my junior. We met online and talked intensely for about a week before we met.

Cutting to the chase, it was an exemplary date. We were both everything we'd hoped for, it was one of the best first dates of my life. She expressed her approval of me thoroughly all night, it was a slam dunk. I woke up the next day thinking I was dating someone for sure and I felt great about her, which the "next day" test is huge for me. Well her "next day" test hadn't gone as well as mine did, so for whatever reason she was no longer into me. Complete 180 degree turn and left just as fast as she'd arrived. Now, I've had plenty of dates that didn't end up with any sort of follow up, it happens all the time. Never have I had a date go so well only to end up like this, clearly something happened overnight. I'm not quite sure what but I have some theories. It's irrelevant now.

Typically this would throw me into a tizzy and I'd be all out of sorts for a long time, and I'd take a step back and pause and distance myself from dating for a bit. Not this time. The situation was disappointing, however I have systematically been going on better and better dates as time is passing and learning more and more each time. It did sting a little bit this time, but I take that fire inside of me and put it to use on the weight bench. Every set I do with the weights is more effort towards my goal of the person I'd like to be, with or without a woman. Lol, honestly I have no use for anything but a woman who really does it for me and I'm perfectly happy on my own, so I'm not doing this for them. I'll be careful for the rest of my life how much I do for any woman based on 20 years of dating experience.

One thing I am now implementing when it comes to my interactions with women; Copious amounts of bullshit. Now, I pride myself on my honesty and integrity and my word as a man and I find it difficult to lie even a little bit. That's how I've always been, it's how I am naturally. The problem when you're dealing with women, and in my experience it is a huge percentage of them; They bend the rules when it comes to honesty, almost all of them. Integrity is questionable with most women, and they have no word as a man has with another man. Now I'm not talking about your mom and your sister, unless I've been dating them. I'm not saying that all women lie, I'm saying in my experience dating, it is a fact that most of them at least bend the truth. Or if they're not bending the truth, they are at the very least manipulating.

This is why I'm going to consciously start to bullshit them, because they are getting on my nerves. I am keeping my cool, I've been doing great, but the pattern I've seen is the less they know, the better. I meet these women and we start talking and talking and talking, and I'm a very open person. I have a feeling more often than not I'm telling them too much in good faith, things that I might not see having an effect on the two of us getting closer, yet maybe they do. I try to treat them like equals and good people, yet it seems like whenever I put my faith in one they take advantage. I am posting this here of course for the benefit of others who might like to make changes in their own lives, however I am posting this for my own benefit as well because typing this out is kind of like when you say something out loud to remember it. At least it is to me. I need to remember to bullshit these women more because they surer than shite are bullshitting me. If they want to play dirty that's fine. I've been playing by the rules for 20 years and it hasn't worked out as much as I'd prefer, so bullshit it is.

So the typically fragile and depressed Fabio just had an unfortunate interaction which seemed to go great but ultimately did not end up in a second date. This would typically crush him, right? Indeed, however this time I just texted someone else who I mentioned in this thread already, and she's still interested in getting together like we were. This one is just for fun, it's not the situation like the date this past weekend. The one from this past weekend would have been a keeper, but the other young lady is plenty attractive, nice, and we like to spend time together physically. Try as I might to get down on myself because the most recent woman wasn't into me, I cannot help but chuckle about my situation and smile. If my biggest problem right now is that I'm "relegated" to only having sex with an attractive young lady, then I'm doing pretty friggin good if I do say so myself. It's taken me a lot of work to be able to get to this point, so I don't feel bad about bragging. I was handed nothing aside from the knowledge here, which is extremely important, but the hard part is manifesting these words in real life as I have.

Another thing I'm going to implement is I need to spin more plates. If you don't know what that means you need to start at the beginning of this thread and read it again. Having a backup there when I feel as though I stumbled a bit has been a really good thing for me, and I need more options to explore. I'm typically too faithful, I give them too much credit and stop contact with others once I get one interested. No more of that. Even when I'm talking to one I need to continue chasing others. Again, saying that out loud for my own benefit as well as to the benefit of others.

Thanks for reading guys.

[atctim]

Fabio - please read, as this is what I think you need to hear right now. I realize this is all probably just a refresher for you - but I read this earlier this week and it SO applies to what your last post related to me. I'm not telling you what to do, however, rather than lowering yourself to "bullshit them" as they do to you, try calling them out on it. Give it a try!

This is a chapter from my book Understanding Women: Everything A Man Needs To Know About Women. Enjoy.
Women never mature past of a child put another way women are said to be “the most responsible teenager in the house” and that’s the good ones. This is why women make horrible bosses, leaders, and decision makers. And why any country where the male populace is weak and pathetic enough to let women lead them will end up destroyed. And why working in a workplace that is all women is straight hell. Deep down women know this which is reason number 1,250,385 why they hate weak males who let them get away with their games. Just like a child would eventually resent a parent who constantly gave into them.
Women like children need leadership and guidance to end up anywhere productive. Left to their own devices they self-destruct just like children would. Women need men to lead, discipline, and keep them and line just like children. For example when you see a bratty child at the store who do you blame the child itself that is simply living out it’s nature? Or the parents who are too weak to discipline it? Spoiled rotten children at the result of weak parents likewise spoiled rotten women are the result of weak males.
She Wants You To Discipline Her

And not just because she likes getting spanked. A woman just like a child is going to throw tests to the men around her to see which ones have strength and which ones are ball-less pussies. There is a evolutionary reason for this (as there is to all behavior of both men and women). Women and children are both weak. They know this deep down which is why they look to strength to keep them safe. Hence tests, they are testing men to see which ones are going to be able to give them what they need to survive.
When you discipline a woman, when you call her out, when you have balls she knows that she can trust you and that you are a man with strength, which is obviously going to raise her attraction levels to you. Women are going to be drawn to men who are like a rock they don’t change for every passing wind, the tides can beat against them and they remain who they are. Women cannot lead nor control themselves. They need you to do so. Any man who gives into a woman or a child shows his weakness and is despised by both women and children.
Controlled By Their Emotions

Children are completely controlled by their emotions as are women. What is meant by this is that logic is impervious to emotional feelings that women are having. It’s not that women aren’t capable of logic so much as it’s always overridden by whatever dominant emotion they are feeling is. This is why spiking a woman’s emotions is so key to sleeping with them. This is also why a woman can rationalize anything. Because it’s the emotions that matter to her and need validation, logic doesn’t play any part. If a woman feels right and believes she is right, logic never really enters into the picture (only so much as it can be used to justify her emotions and nothing more).
Now does this sound like the setup for someone who is going to be a good leader or make good decisions on their own? Of course not and anyone who would believe that is a fool. And truth be told no woman really believes this deep down (they’re just testing when they say they do) only weak males actually believe that women make capable leaders. Also this doesn’t make women evil or bad or anything of that nature. Women were never supposed to be men, despite what the average weak male thinks. And expecting them to be is nonsense women were meant to be women. And a woman is controlled by her emotions, which is fine because if you’re a strong masculine man you know how to handle this.
Never Take Seriously

A man who takes what a woman says seriously (as in rationally and logically is a fool) and if you shot any woman up with truth serum she’d say the exact same thing. Women aren’t actually communicating rational thoughts or plans but rather whatever emotion that they are feeling in the moment. This is why when they say something and you tease them regardless of what they said they’ll enjoy it (again calibration is needed, if their mom just died and you tease them probably won’t be too happy…probably). Never take a woman seriously the way you would a man. They’re communicating their emotions, not facts and logic. Generally she wants her emotions validated nothing more.
Many weak males wish that women were more like men, probably to make up for their own deficiency in masculinity. And many women will try to fill this role (as society pretty much worships them for doing so) but deep down they will always be unfulfilled and resentful of the man who made them take up the slack in his masculinity. Everything works better when women are allowed to be woman and men are men. I think it’s weird so many guys wish their girl was more manly because they’re not sure how to handle her (because they lack masculinity themselves). These traits also allow women to be good mothers as well as support and love you even when they have no idea what you do or how you do it and never will.
Summary

I see so many men who with their words talk against feminism and the ills it brings but then act it out with their actions. They’ll talk about the stupidity of feminism but then kowtow to their wives with whatever they want. They’re the type that would roll their eyes at the women’s mark but then repeat “Happy wife, happy life” to their friends. They’re women are begging to be led and sad that their man’s masculinity is a facade around weakness. Don’t be this kind of guy. Remember women are like children and should be treated as such. Everyone wins in the end.
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-Charles Sledge

[fabiodriven]

This is why I will call you my mentor Tim. I should check with you before any idea I have on my own. Your last post is completely correct, and I knew it as soon as I read it. Thank you yet again.

Onward and upward, there is no ceiling on this ride. A week and a half ago I went on an EXEMPLARY first date. I mentioned that already in last week's posting. I also mentioned how I found out the next day that she was not interested. It was very unexpected (for reasons I already shared), and it was quite a disappointment. It did hurt a little bit, and it was in the back of my mind for a few days, however that's a drastic improvement over how I would have handled this even six months ago. I would have been ripped to pieces over this, it would have shut me right down and set me back months. Take this behavior and repeat it over and over again, and it makes sense why I would be so single for such a long time. It is plain to see now though and thus handle, after much hard work getting to this point that is.

Jumping right back into things after last week's disappointment seemed a little tricky at first, briefly. Very briefly. I knew I had to get right back into it, and I knew what I needed next. I needed more plates spinning. I had a phuck friend to fall back on this time, and I didn't even think about that until later on the next day after finding out the other one wasn't interested. I texted phuck friend, who I hadn't been in touch with for a couple weeks, and she had been wondering where I was. That was good because it took my mind off the other one. Also, the phuck friend is a good influence on me dating wise. She knows I'm hunting for other women and she's fine with that. I can use the swagger I get from being with her to apply to ascertaining other women, more plates to spin.

For the amount of years I have on dating sites, I should be an expert on them. I can say right now finally, that I am just that. Just a few months ago, I'd be lucky to get any replies at all to messages I sent out, never mind random messages from women who initiated contact. That was completely non-existent. Sometimes I'd be lucky enough to start a conversation with someone who was most likely a huge compromise for me, nobody even worth considering in real life, but when you have a poor self image then you "take what you can get". This never worked. All it led to were tons and tons of pointless conversations that went nowhere fast and ended even faster, or terrible dates that caused more anguish than anything else, and led to more disappointment. It was a downhill slide that just got worse the further along I slid, every poor decision or circumstance fueling the next. Hence the terrible dating situations I ended up in for years on end.

Now, thanks to Tim, this thread, and the other good men posting, things are directly the opposite. I go on dating sites now, and I send far less messages. Sometimes I'll peruse the whole site and there will be nobody worth my messages, which is fine. Other times I'll happen upon a real peach, and I won't say they all reply, but a lot of them do now, and a lot of them get really interested really quickly. I dare say I have the upper hand now, and not just on the internet, in real life as well. Obviously my true aura has been accurately captured by my internet dating profiles and I do not disappoint in person. I am the prize now instead of them, the tables have been turned. I get the messages now, I get contacted by them. I get to decide who is worth my time and who isn't. I am not the one waiting for them to reply to me anymore, they are waiting for me to reply to them.

Time to brag! It's OK to brag after a metric ton of hard work both physically and mentally to get to this point, and I'm not even close to being done. I want to see someone else brag here too, I want other men to figure this stuff out. I want to share my experiences with others because I want to see others walk the path I have. There is no way you could come from a sadder place than myself, I was as sad sack as they get. If you want to get your arse in gear and obtain what I have, you have to make serious life decisions and put in some work. Then you will start to be happy with what life is offering you. As I sit here now, I have three women on the line. As a reminder, I am 39 years old.

Plate #1 is Phuck friend. Phuck friend is 37 and is physically beautiful as well as absolutely hilarious to be in touch with, great personality. We get along great, and we phuck.

The other two current options I have yet to meet in person and I've been in touch with both for a very short time thus far.

Plate #2 is a 28 year old woman who appears attractive (so far), who has no kids and has never been married. She's a bit of a hard luck case so this would be a situation to proceed with caution. I used to think of hard luck cases as bargain basement pricing on an otherwise attractive (physically) person. The reality is a very high portion of hard luck cases can end up being trouble. Nine times out of ten they are not worth it. My value was taught to me by this thread and I know I am dating below my value on this one, but I'm going to keep her around for the time being and likely meet her in person at some point just to see what she has to offer. This one has nothing to offer but herself, but if she's the right person that's all I would want from her. Still, I know that a hard luck case turning into anything significant is unlikely. Impossible? Definitely not. I will say though, the last one I was talking to who had her own money, car, and house really got me revved up. I've never even had the option of dating someone with all their own stuff before I met that one, and it was an interesting feeling thinking about dating someone who has all their own life and things.

Plate #3 is the most recent. Just like plate #2, I've not yet met plate #3. Plate #3 is a very interesting choice, and I must pause for a moment here just to state that every time I meet a woman for consideration, they are getting more and more interesting as I go. They are also improving as I go. Every time I feel like I might be disappointed that something fell through with a woman because she had so much going for her, because we had so much in common, or because she was so special in so many ways, I find one who is even better. I don't even understand how it's possible, but it is. Now, bear in mind here I've never met the following woman of whom I am about to speak, and we've only just begun contact. We matched up on Tinder and I actually "super liked" her (which means nothing to anyone who doesn't use Tinder, but it's a shot in the dark that scored me big points this time[would seem like a coincidence to others but I don't believe in coincidence]). The reason I "super liked" this particular person was because of her particular style and beauty. She is a phucking dime piece. She's a 35 year old, thin, blonde, bright blue (almost grey) eyed, pediatrician from Denmark who moved to Boston this past summer. Now that's a pretty good list of pros, but there is one con. She has a daughter. I'm not keen on dating those with children, especially so since I plan to move out of this state, and I actually explained this to her* and her reply was to ask me to meet her for coffee sometime soon. This one is far too good, even with baggage, to leave on the table, and I hope we end up meeting. I'd like to think we will. But no bee ess, a phuckin sa-mokeshow Danish pediatrician. How could it get better? I will let you know.

*One attribute of my successes in dating as of late has been me speaking my mind and saying exactly what I want. They either love that, or they're deterred by it. Those you are deterring because of your ability to express what you desire and subsequently manifest it are those you don't want around in the first place, so let them say what they want about you and your lifestyle as they go the other direction, because it was your choice to send them that way, not theirs. Let them grumble as you defeat them, that's fine. Meanwhile there are tons and tons of other women out there who want you to speak your mind, who want to know what you're thinking, and who ultimately want your guidance, even though they don't know that. My dating profile is very honest and up front. It says what I have to offer, which is a lot, and it says what I want, which is also a lot. When you bring a lot you can ask for a lot too, that's how it works. Work on yourself for a very long time before you think you're some kind of Fabio though, because it has taken me years to get to this point. Even though I've only been on TRP for just about a year now, I started making conscious improvements to myself long before that. TRP just taught me the most important things and brought together all the other things I had studied and showed me how to use them.

Much of this post has been on the subject of internet dating. If you recall, I have lambasted internet dating multiple times in this thread in the past. I was frustrated because it wasn't working out for me. It can work and it does.

And let's hold that thought as I just got a message from plate #4. I thought she was out. I hadn't heard from her since Sunday (it's Thursday now), but as I sit here typing this I just received a message from her. Very interesting. Plate #4 is a 29 year old blonde with no children. Her pictures could be more clear but she has a lot of potential.

As I was saying, much of this post has to do with internet dating. Let us not forget the importance of interacting with women in person as well, which traditionally has been my preferred method of approach. I speak to women in a different language than I used to now, it's called charming. It doesn't matter if I find them attractive or not, I speak to them all that way and watch their reactions, then catalog those behaviors and apply them to situations with women I am attracted to. Easy peasy Japanesey, or as Steve would say, "chicken". I like women, specifically very attractive women. Attractive women come in all ages, but for whatever reason I seem to be attracted to younger women. Today at the store I had the 21 year old(?) cashier laughing the entire time she was cashing out my order, and it wasn't even on purpose. I was just talking to her about the things that were crossing my mind, about the things I was buying and stuff. It's great to see that reaction from women, especially women 20 years younger than myself. To others who like them young, age is just a number. Almost every woman I interact with makes a comment on my age and how I look more like 29 than I do 39, which is genetics in my case. I've always been a late bloomer. You must work with what you've been given though, just like washing your car before a car show. You must put work in or you will get back results which may not appease you. You must realize what it is you have to offer, and if that's not much, you need to work on that. If you prefer young women and you're not breaking any laws or disturbing anyone's family, if two consenting adults are interested in each other, it doesn't matter how many people sneer or look at you in a "different way", let them. I've no need of judgemental people around me anyways. If ten women along the way think you have a problem for hitting on a woman 20 years younger than you, who gives a flying frig when the young lady is within your reach and glad you approached her? I win in the end. What's the worst that can happen if you ask? She says no? Oh well..

Or you can settle.

[fabiodriven]

Now the biggest problem I can see is I'm going to have a lot of dates to go on.

[Scootertrash]

Interesting "Mens" commercial. Wonder where women get these ideas? Thanks to Mainstream Media

[atctim]

Fabio: Good on you. I love seeing the TRP actually working in real time. It truly is amazing that we have gotten so far off the beaten path that men don't even know how to act anymore.

I applaud you as you continue your journey and am always giddy to read your updates. In my personal life I have had a rough go of it, but when applying TRP - things get better, and seem to fall into place, even in a LTR. Since picking up the pace, the woman has taken notice and it has been far better for me. She now understands that I am the leader and the rock, and she is better off for being with me.

Keep up the good work brother!

[plastikosmd]

Dollar shave club here I come

[83ATC185]

Get a good quality DE safety razor and never look back. I like the superspeed red tip. Cost me nothing as it was a handmedown and blades are a nickel. I bet one would only cost you 5 bucks or so....

It took me a long time to learn that women don't want you to give in to them, that she's not a man, she doesn't want to come to an agreement or compromise. Took me a long time to realize that. This thread is full of stuff that i think we all know deep down but forget. I've been in a steady relationship for 10 years and now the tests only happen every few weeks or so although us moving in together has brought up a whole new list of things to disagree about

[Scootertrash]

Charge yer phone Dood!