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    Hot Rod Brian's 87 SX

    Hot Rod Brian sold this machine to me (for the moment), but it's going to be known as Albie's machine most likely. I took possession of it a few months back and it's been sitting here waiting for some attention. Well a few days ago I decided it was time to get this thing going. Albie's going to pay for it when it's done and it will be his, and if he doesn't pay I'll keep it. Personally I hope he doesn't pay.

    Turns out the focks were bent straight back a little bit. I have a keen eye for that but somehow hadn't noticed until I disassembled them. I threw a set of straight tubes in that were out in the shed along with new seals and fluid.

    The front brake shoes were roached, and NOS Honda shoes are in the mail on their way here.

    OEM grips and bar ends are en route as well, along with a set of handlebar heaters. OEM air filter is also in the mail.

    Used OEM skid plate compliments of Captain Weezy will be here soon as well, packaging adorned with something embarrassing and most likely sexual or at least having something to do with bodily functions. Thank you again pal!

    I welded the holes in the stock muffler closed.

    One issue we noticed just recently, one of the aluminum aftermarket rims had slotted holes from being run with loose lugs. We were able to drill new lug holes, but we weren't crazy about the rims or tires. They would have worked, but they weren't ideal. Just for shites and giggles, I jumped on Craigslist yesterday and searched "ATC". Well wouldn't you know, one of the first ads that popped up was for two stock 85 SX wheels with two good usable Ohtsus on them for $30 four miles from my house! Amazing! So I scored those and met another triker who's nearby.

    Ideally all the parts will arrive in time and everything will fall together, then this machine will be back in the mountains for the first time in quite a few years. We're hoping to head up this coming Sunday (Dan), and my buddy Albie's never been riding up there. It's going to be a huge deal for him, I'm looking forward to it myself. I'll post some pictures when it's all together.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    Thanks for all the replies guys! Yes it certainly was a score. I got the carb cleaned and reassembled and unfortunately the bike still didn't run right. I disassembled the carb a second time and found a jet which was completely clogged as well as the spring and washer for the air screw missing, rookie moves. Ultimately my fault, yes, however we have a friend who comes by and tends to distract people and worse yet, sometimes insists on "helping". God bless the guy, he's a true friend, but I put the tools down when he comes over and this is exactly why. You'll see him in the video below.

    So we do now know that the muffler on the SX has some small holes on the underside. I'll be welding those up, but we're going to ride it first. I need to reinstall the carb again, it's right this time. I was also able to Frankenstein the headlight shell back together so that's good!

    This is Hot Rod Brian in the video below. I'll be honest, it has nothing to do with the thread really. I just found this hilarious and I thought others might as well. Like I said, our buddy makes it really difficult at times!







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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    Two months ago give or take, my neighbor Hot Rod Brian told me he'd seen a trike earlier that day while looking over some cars for sale. He showed me this picture.



    I told Brian we needed to get our hands on that ASAP, but Brian does take his time with things. He's missed out from time to time with his balking, but I wasn't letting that happen this time. The seller is 91 and it's son's machine, who lives out of state. Hot Rod Brian is a bit older than myself, I'm 38. I figured this particular deal might take a little more than a day or a week...

    It did. I don't recall exactly when it was initially brought up, but it's been around two months as I said. Today we were able to go pick it up. Brian's probably just going to poke around the yards here on it and then if he's gonna let it go it will go to me. We've got another guy who hangs out here all the time who wants it as well.

    So we went and picked it up for short money and it looks great! The gas tank has one small dent but it's cleaning up really nice and there is next to no rust in it, as it was topped off with pre-ethanol gasoline. It was orange but there was no damage to the carburetor. The carb was gummed solid, but everything is usable inside of it and the float works fine. I miss pre-ethanol carb cleaning. Although all the small passages were gummed, they all cleaned easily and there was next to nothing in the bowl itself, really not terrible.



    The OEM plastics are patched but good for a rider. Rear brake works fine but the front is missing the barrel that the cable goes through on the brake actuation lever on the hub itself. Rear wheels are currently gold so those need to get painted. Forks need to be rebuilt, boots are trashed.

    I threw my battery in it and my gas tank on it and the electric start did not work. There was a clicking sound like a solenoid, but no action on the starter. I jumped up on it and kicked once, twice, second kick it was running. It caught us all by surprise. No smoke, no noises, it's tight and smooth. It died before it reached ten seconds of run time, that's when I found out the carb was gummed. It ran really well though.

    One thing we are in search of is an 86-87 headlight shell. Ol Shep is sending over a 200X shell to see how it looks (Shep is the man!), we don't know what it's going to look like but it's worth a shot. If anyone has any white 86-87 SX headlight shells please, let me know.

    I'll update as this barn find comes together. The OEM Ohtsu on the front has 95% tread, but unfortunately it's a loss. I was really bummed to see the weather checking on it where it was flat on the ground. The Wooly Boogers are hard as rocks and one has a tube, so those will go bye bye if it becomes mine. They're probably fine for what Brian's going to use it for.







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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    I welded the holes in the stock muffler closed.
    When you weld on trikes, do you unhook your CDI and or other electricals first? Have you ever fried electricals welding on one, or is that not something to be concerned with?

    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    Used OEM skid plate compliments of Captain Weezy will be here soon as well, packaging adorned with something embarrassing and most likely sexual or at least having something to do with bodily functions. Thank you again pal!
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    I don't unhook anything intentionally when I weld Mr Keister. The battery is out of the machine but that's only because the machine was slated to be on the wheelie bar for a while during the time I worked on it.

    I welded exhaust systems on cars and trucks for years and we never unhooked anything. Never had any issues. I've welded on all my own vehicles over the years and never fried anything.
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    Me neither.. I read stories about disconnecting BLAH BLAH BLAH, never had an issue...
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    I noticed you've removed the front wheel...just wondering if the front axle caused you any grief? I have an '85 250SX and will have to remove the front axle at some point to replace the tire. Apparently those front axles are notorious for seizing. Just wondering how it went for you?
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    My 86 and this 87 both came off without incident.
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    Alright so now unfortunately we will not be hitting the mountains this weekend because of two separate speed bumps, and I need a little help.

    First problem is a persistent bog when you give it throttle. It will bog right through the middle of the RPM range and eventually clear out then rev up to full throttle. I have had this carburetor out of the machine and apart no less than five times, probably more. The last time I had it apart, the plastic slosh guard around the main jet lost it's grip and fell off. I thought that was finally going to be the cure to the bog, but I was wrong. I removed the jet shroud from the carburetor and still it bogs. I changed the spark plug to a brand new one just to be sure, but that didn't help. I'm at a loss as to what it is that could be causing this bog. I thought the first couple times it was apart that I must have missed a clogged passage somewhere but I don't think that's the case anymore.

    Our second issue, the triples are bent. I figured it out during assembly when I had the same issue putting it together that I saw when I was taking it apart. The axle doesn't sit where it's supposed to, and you can clearly see the front end is twisted. I'm beginning my hunt for a set of triples right now. I bet the top one is OK but I don't know that yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    First problem is a persistent bog when you give it throttle. It will bog right through the middle of the RPM range and eventually clear out then rev up to full throttle. I have had this carburetor out of the machine and apart no less than five times, probably more. The last time I had it apart, the plastic slosh guard around the main jet lost it's grip and fell off. I thought that was finally going to be the cure to the bog, but I was wrong. I removed the jet shroud from the carburetor and still it bogs. I changed the spark plug to a brand new one just to be sure, but that didn't help. I'm at a loss as to what it is that could be causing this bog. I thought the first couple times it was apart that I must have missed a clogged passage somewhere but I don't think that's the case anymore.
    Take a real good look at the needle. Roll it on a piece of glass and make sure it’s perfectly straight.

    Not sure what your fuel screw looks like, but I had the tip break off in a Mikuni carb once and didn’t realize it until I put the needle next to a good one. Ran like crap till 3/4 throttle.

    And... some carbs have a small washer under the needle clip. Check if yours is supposed to have one.
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    been a bit distracted pal. I have that starter rebuild kit still. I'll get it out to you. Bad friend. Sorry.
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    Just curious, did they have the key for that thing when he got it?? Such a nice score!!
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    Yes sir Steve, key was right in it.

    I have triples on the way and I'm going to swap the carb from my SX on to it and see what she's got to say then.
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