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    Quote Originally Posted by Arky-X View Post
    That doesn't surprise me. Problem with most Americans is we want to make the American $ and we want to live the American Dream which is a life of overindulgence.......big house.....big expensive gas guzzling vehicles....the best college for our kids that tuition loans can afford.....latest phone....latest trophy wife.....three wheelers. We work and work just to have the latest and greatest and then in the end, we die. Never knowing when to say enough is enough.
    Many other cultures live a much simpler life so when a $ is earned, they know how to stretch it.
    I've been severely downsizing the last couple of years. Sold alot of toys off.

    You can have the trophy wife. I wanted that many years ago, but now I like a woman with a job and resilience. Trophy wives are like fine art, you can hang it on the wall for all to admire but it's virtually worthless outside of that.

    I agree with your assessment of American consumer culture. When I was a teenager raised on a farm, I wanted to run far away from that simple rural life as fast as I could. Planned to attend Veterinary school but decided I wanted to be a corporate attorney the year I hit college.... purely for the money and all that it affords. I read DuPont Registry and daydreamed about all the exotic cars inside and imagining the trophy wife I would have and the luxury I would pursue.

    Took me a few years and a few reality checks to understand how fake and fruitless all that is and after a decade wasted finding my place, I ran as fast as I could right back to my rural roots to the people and culture who had always accepted me as I was and not for what I could do for them.

    Only then did I appreciate my roots and I ain't never leaving again. The next phase is to learn to live a simpler life. I still like money so I'll have to de-program myself and I started by turning off my tv....maybe pay attention to other cultures that aren't so obssesed as ours.

    Gonna be awhile before I give up my trike, though. Maybe swap it for a Big Red. Wife and I want to buy a small farm and grow stuff and become self-sufficient

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tri-Z 250 View Post
    .... The idea that Obama let in the Boston duo as Refugees in an open flood to extend this notion of Equal immigration. Now somehow it's turned into this spin the Imagrants have American rights before they get here. ....
    Yeah he was following the EU Human Rights ideology to a tee.

    Their problems and failures should be a lesson to us as well. We started following them into the river, but as we watch them drown in pathological Altruism, crime, and social debt, we should back away from the shore so to speak....and quick

    A few have mentioned that we have always welcomed immigrants and refugees but that's not exactly the truth at all. As early as the Plymouth colony, even those folks wanted nothing to do with the newly arriving "outsiders" and forbid them from joining the colony and forbid colony members from fraternizing or doing business with outsiders from Europe. This has happened time and again throughout American history post-European early settling and even among "native" groups as well long before "fair skins" showed up

    Xenophobia is neither new, nor an American phenomenon. It's genetically programmed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    Interesting.

    So in my experience, most Latin America immigrants that I know personally aren't Mexican Nationals at all but are almost all from south of May-hee-ko. This may indeed be different in other parts of the country but I only know one recent immigrant (15yrs now) and he's an ex bank exec from Mexico City with papers who works now as a machine operator in Kentucky. He said the prevalence of age discrimination in his field at home is why he left. He became a naturalized citizen at some point as did his wife.
    This brings up something many Mexicans, especially the educated ones in the North get pissed about. The ratio of Mexicans to everybody else with brown skin that speaks Spanish and are illegally in the USA is pretty low compared to the conception of the average gringo and most of the Latino bangers Glamy loves to hang with were born in the US (albeit to illegals in many cases), but the skin tone and “vato/chicano” lingo gets them branded as “Mexicans” which is offensive to both them and the Mexicans. We do the same thing in Canada with the natives, most of what degenerate, white trash occupying rapist devils like myself call Indians are some sort of “metis”, or other blood mix with no defined identity, although the government is trying to invent one for them so they can pay them more money to not work and give them more leisure time to steal my sh*t for booze and dope. The vast majority of illegals I’ve seen in the USA are NOT from Mexico. If they are, then they came from the lowest of the low classes, or came in legally and didn’t go back after finding something that paid decent in cash. Most Mexicans I know that have lived in the States did so legally either by studying, opening businesses, or in the case of the less affluent, getting work visas and cutting meat, or bolting machinery together on assembly lines. Age and sex discrimination is legal here. Most job adds say “No one over 40 need apply” and most women are tested for pregnancy before they are hired. Nothing is taboo during a job interview. Harvey Weinstein would have loved this place. A husband, father or brother should always accompany a woman to a job interview.

    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    When I had other Mexican national associates when I was a drywall contractor many moons ago most of them came and worked awhile and then left to go back home after 7-10 years. Manuel, a drywall finishing contractor and friend, was in America on a work visa but most of his crew were illegals. I learned alot about how they get over the border in various ways legally and illegally. I also learned about "coyotes"(?) who were white Texans that could be paid a fee per head to smuggle ppl here and Manuel used them often to get his deported crew members back in here. Literally they were rounded up in a sweep on a Thursday morning in Indianapolis Indiana and were back in Indianapolis working by the following Friday. It was THAT fast.
    A “Coyote” can be any color and do a lot of different things for money. The best translation would probably be a "hustler", I was even branded one when I was crossing trucks daily, but in the case of human trafficking they are on both sides of the border. I’m told that the ones on the Mexican side interact with the cartels to make sure that no one messes up someone else’s schedules as they use the same routes in many cases. As you can imagine some people get used to smuggle drugs while crossing. These people are called “burros”. From what I hear the people that pay the right price to cross are treated well, feed and crossed professionally and quickly. The ones that end up strapped down with dope and crossed with a gun at their back opted for the payment plan package and picked the wrong travel agent. It so easy that some illegals come home for Christmas and go back afterwards and yes, this has to be facilitated by people living and working on the US side. You have a huge, but very quiet and unpublicized corruption problem on your side. It takes two (sides) to Tango. US border towns are drug distribution centers. Using Laredo as an example one only need look at the layout of the city and ask the question “Where did the money come from?” The shopping mall parking lots are full of high end cars all day and there’s not a single smoke stack in the city, just banks, brokers, malls and warehouses. When you fly over it all you see is massive ranches and gated neighborhoods. Yes there is a bad side of town, but it’s nothing compared to the good stuff. I don’t want to post much more about this on the net, but I would be happy to share a few more your side of the border stories over rums one day.

    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    One day Manuel came to tell me goodbye and I was shocked and a bit sad to see him go. Hard worker. Very driven. Good conservative Catholic/Christian family values. Honestly a great person to have in your community. I asked him why he was leaving and he told me it was never meant to be permanent and that alot of Mexican Nationals just want to work for the good American money for a time to support their families at home and then they want to go back home to retire. They send their next generation up north to do the same thing for a time and keep rotating out to the younger generations as a way to keep large families supported. He told me (in 1995) that he had made enough money here in seven years to have a large house built back home that he paid cash outright for, for his extended family to live in and afterward had also amassed another $300K American in savings which he said he could "live like a king, my friend!" back home and be technically retired. I had no reason not to believe him but that may not be the case today.
    Lots of people like that from here. Life in the USA is a rat race and these people are accustomed to working to live, not living to work mentality. Only a few can adapt to the American way of working. If they worked that hard in their own communities they would be shunned. It’s a weird thing, many here are proud of being lazy and hate when someone else gets ahead in life. As far as what it costs to live down here it all depends how you want to live. If you return to a farming village (Ejido) of a small town in the South $300K makes you a King. If you want to live in Mexico City, Guadalajara or Monterrey it would allow you to survive in a very small house, but you’d be financially hamstringed beyond survival. It’s a common misconception that it’s cheap to live in Mexico. That only applies if you are willing to adapt to a very different standard of living that you would be as a middle class American. A first world lifestyle costs more here than it does up there, only booze, smokes, fruits and vegetables cost less than in the USA. Houses, taxes, vehicles, land and a top level education are the same or more. Running a legitimate company is a nightmare and the legal system should you get caught up in it will kill you if you can’t fund things to your suit your best interests.

    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    My question is, since alot of my plant employees were from Nicaragua, El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Venezuela, etc and some of them did indeed turn out to be using fake IDs and Social Security numbers, I'm assuming they are sneaking thru Mexico as well. Is this the case? I heard them mention "sponsors" which was usually a church organization or family members here in the US bankrolling these efforts so how does that work? Is there a large human smuggling market there in Mexico too?
    Yes, they would have come through here. I see them once in a while when driving to the States and a lot of them ride the rails, so you see them come through the city and beg on the streets whenever the train stops, but most stay as far away from the big cities and highways as possible because of shake downs. Everybody wants a piece of you down here from the government down. Haven’t heard much lately, but a few years back busses were getting high jacked and the occupants were gathered outside on the ground and given the option to either pledge to a gang, or die. There were a lot of bodies lying around back then. Whoever pledged was tasked accordingly. A pretty woman was put to work in the sex trade and a young guy was handed a gun. They rest did everything from work as slaves on pot farms to cross into the USA with a backpack full of dope with the motivation factor of his family being held in Mexico at gun point while he worked as a burro. I know the churches will take them and provide meals, but as far as money being donated specifically for this purpose I’ve never heard about it. I do know that it was easy to send money from the States to Mexico for families, but a lot of financial rules have changed here, so it may be getting taxed now.

    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    I'm asking because I've already learned alot in this thread. I had always falsely assumed it was easy as F@#K to walk thru Mexico with no papers as long as you had cash to grease palms with.
    I’m sure some people still bribe their way in, but I would speculate that it’s because they are criminally disqualified from getting papers VS not having the money as the bribes would likely exceed the cost of a passport. About ten years ago the Mexican government recruited thousands of law students to come work for S.A.T. which is our version of the IRS. These kids were educated and sent to the borders and was a huge turning point in border control. Previously the people working the border were hired based on extended nepotism and fired (and paid a handsome severance) every time a new President was elected. During this time in history you could have smuggled in an elephant for $100 and shakedowns were common, i.e. you have $500 worth of old crap in your truck and instead of charging you the correct $80 bucks in taxes they would tell you it was worth $1,000 and that you either pay them $50 bucks cash, or they will make you pay $160 at the window, sh*t like that. I really like the educated folks they have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knappyfeet View Post
    I heard on the radio ahora that at this time......115 people were already allowed to apply for asylum.

    Count em.....that's almost all the folks on the bridge.

    Bienvenidos Estephan!!!...... I'm sure a tax payer funded gender reassignment operation is in your future Amorcita!!


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    As sledcrazy had already mentioned above...

    Asylum is for people who are persecuted with a direct threat on their lives or freedom for political reasons (as in locked up for political dissidence)

    Political refugees

    Was Stefany part of the Honduran Trans party who was attempting to overthrow the democratically elected president of Honduras? A presidential republic?

    WTF qualifies ANY of these people as political dissidents or refugees?

    Words don't even mean anything anymore. Nobody cares what a word truly means. It's merely a noun/verb/adjective used to wordsmith and manipulate mob thought to serve agendas

    Where are these authoritarian dictatorships that threatened the lives of these "political refugees"? Why isn't everyone asking exactly these things? Our media is so full of SH+T!

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    Are you referring to the failed Honduran flip-flop revolution of 2017?
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    Perhaps she tried to "identify" as the president of Honduras so that's why she's trying to escape to seek asylum

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    A tad off topic but what the heck....this is so classic. The virtue signallers out themselves as racists

    https://youtu.be/yW2LpFkVfYk

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Camexican View Post
    Are you referring to the failed Honduran flip-flop revolution of 2017?
    That was truly sandal less.

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    I love me some intelligent and hot Canadians.

    Introducing Faith Goldy...

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