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Thread: .308 vs 6.5 Creedmoor

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    .308 is cheaper and more widely available. I shot my buddies 6.5 bolt action and IT IS VERY NICE. IMHO the flatter trajectory increases accuracy by taking some of the guess work out of ranging. However, I practice quite a bit, so I can come fairly close with my .308 using inexpensive ammo. I second Ironchop's post about availability during SHTF. I like to have a few common calibers and spend money on those rather than exotic or uncommon items. Given what you've described your needs as, a .308 will be great.
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    Yep, I am pretty set on getting .308 at this point. I have learned a lot since I started this thread. Now I just need to find a brand that I trust, and can afford, and is available.

    Meanwhile, the Garand Collectors Club just cashed my check for membership. That will slake my thirst for a big boy repeater while I am deciding exactly which .308 to buy.

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    PTR91. Nothing I've shot beats it for price. Accurate and reliable...plus surplus mags are $5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caminofeld View Post
    PTR91. Nothing I've shot beats it for price. Accurate and reliable...plus surplus mags are $5
    Or less.... I got mine for $1.50 each aluminum or $2.00 steel although that might have been awhile ago. Steel CETME mags work too. I think I paid $8 a piece for those in April still in the cosmo



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    M1 Garand is officially on order. I could not be more excited. Delivery is 2-4 months. Let's take this opportunity to talk about gun safes. Brands to recommend or avoid? Types of mechanisms that are better or worse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keister View Post
    M1 Garand is officially on order. I could not be more excited. Delivery is 2-4 months. Let's take this opportunity to talk about gun safes. Brands to recommend or avoid? Types of mechanisms that are better or worse?
    I've been looking too.

    The only ones I can find that aren't chintzy or look like you could break into them with a can opener are $3K

    I also have serious problems with those electronic keypads. Sure would suck if it got hit by an electromagnetic pulse and wouldn't work.

    I refuse to buy one that doesn't have a mechanical lock so that greatly narrows my choices

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    ALWAYS have a mechanical way to open your safe. I shudder to think how many people would be up Schitt's Creek if an EMP fried their safe circuitry. I have a 30+ gun safe from Field and Stream with combo lock. It's nowhere near full, but not too many thieves are gonna get a near 1000 lb safe bolted to a concrete floor out. Wait until Dicks has a sale. I got mine for $800.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keister View Post
    M1 Garand is officially on order. I could not be more excited. Delivery is 2-4 months. Let's take this opportunity to talk about gun safes. Brands to recommend or avoid? Types of mechanisms that are better or worse?
    Getting close to delivery time!



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    The Creedmore will join the long list of others that were impressive and wonderful and stone cold dead. WSM & WSSM calibers anyone?

    It's real value is on paper. In the real world, little to nothing. 99% of consumers will only notice a difference in their wallet as they feed the thing. Time will pass, it will slowly fall to obscurity and ammunition companies will drop it from their line based on lack of profits. Then brass manufacturers will drop it for the same reason leaving a faithful few handloaders vainly attempting to form it from existing brass.

    99% of shooters (if they're 100% honest) will notice little more improvement other than a slight reduction in recoil. The same can be done with existing cartridges with no need for tooling up new and different things. What does the Creedmore offer that the 260 Remington does not? A tiny bit of wiggle room in a magazine. Nothing more.
    It offers nothing over the 6,5mm Swede in performance and it's what? A hundred years old or so?

    Ammunition manufacturers are constantly re-inventing the wheel in an effort to drum up new business but it's always the same old song and dance. A decade or so activity then it fades into obscurity. Every time it's a 'game changer' and serious hunters and shooters stick with the same half dozen or so. How many different cartridges in the last half century have tried to de-throne the humble old 30'06? Good luck with that. 30'06, .308, 300 & 7mm mag, 30/30, .270 Win......these guys will only be out classed when some kid from MIT finally discovers coherent light and gives us a phaser or plasma rifle we all dreamed about as children.

    The .300BLK has done fairly well but is still a niche and can't hope to dethrone the .223/5,56 in the AR platform.


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    Garand Porn....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post
    Getting close to delivery time!
    Good call. Yes, I have taken delivery. The FedEx guy drove right to my back door and handed it to me.
    They put all new wood and some new stock hardware too. There is very minor corrosion in front of the trigger guard, but it is in excellent shape.
    They even throw in a pretty nice plastic case and one clip.
    I ordered a few more clips on eBay. The one thing I wasn't expecting was the price of ammunition, but I bought 400 rds, so that will last me a little while.
    The rounds may come today, so hopefully I will be shooting this weekend. I am a touch concerned about loading it correctly and safely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keister View Post
    Good call. Yes, I have taken delivery. The FedEx guy drove right to my back door and handed it to me.
    They put all new wood and some new stock hardware too. There is very minor corrosion in front of the trigger guard, but it is in excellent shape.
    They even throw in a pretty nice plastic case and one clip.
    I ordered a few more clips on eBay. The one thing I wasn't expecting was the price of ammunition, but I bought 400 rds, so that will last me a little while....
    Congrats! Looks fantastic!

    Yeah the hardcase my buddy got with his was very nice too and had the CMP logo embossed on it.

    I agree with getting sticker shock while trying to buy 308 shells. I used to get 200rd. surplus battle packs for $35-40 ($.17/Rd). The surplus dried up by the early 2000s and the price of 308 shot up to $.65/Rd minimum for a long time. It's coming down again, though, with the cheapest Slavic produced (Tulammo) steel case for as low as $.32/Rd.

    You probably don't want to soil your rifle with that sh*tty steel Tulammo stuff but my HK91 eats it up no problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keister View Post
    I am a touch concerned about loading it correctly and safely.
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    After you do it a few times its easy peasy...be sure the end of the shells are seated against the back of the clip or else it'll jam

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    Quote Originally Posted by keister View Post
    Good call. Yes, I have taken delivery. The FedEx guy drove right to my back door and handed it to me.
    They put all new wood and some new stock hardware too. There is very minor corrosion in front of the trigger guard, but it is in excellent shape.
    They even throw in a pretty nice plastic case and one clip.
    I ordered a few more clips on eBay. The one thing I wasn't expecting was the price of ammunition, but I bought 400 rds, so that will last me a little while.
    The rounds may come today, so hopefully I will be shooting this weekend. I am a touch concerned about loading it correctly and safely.
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    I use the "edge of hand on the bolt" method just for the sake of my thumb. Never gotten "M1 thumb" yet.

    Renewed my CMP membership a month or 2 ago. Just in case I decide to get another........

    Got one of these to get built first

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