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  • Angle Eye Blue

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  • Angle Eye Red

    1 11.11%
  • Angle Eye Orange

    1 11.11%
  • Standard style

    7 77.78%
  • None / I don't like LED Headlights

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Thread: Which LED Headlight style should I stock for the 3ww shop? 200ES, E etc 6x4in

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    Which LED Headlight style should I stock for the 3ww shop? 200ES, E etc 6x4in

    I've stocked the standard style in the 3ww shop, link is here: http://shop.3wheelerworld.com/index....product_id=436


    I added a poll to gauge interest on which style of LED headlight people like. I know for sure the normal LED headlight fits the 200ES housing, and can be installed in the 200E headlight housing with the spring clips. Might fit other models too, just not sure off hand what ones. Anyway, the "angle eye" style ones are kind of neat, figured it could be wired with dims, or the buyer would have to wire in a switch of choice to control it independently. The angle eye ones are ironically cheaper, never had one in hand, but I suspect the build quality is similar to the other one.

    I plan to order atleast one of these style headlights pretty soon, and I'm working on a "DC Power Kit" for the 200 series machines. All will be listed in the 3ww shop once I'm all set to sell them. Also I see the Angle Eye style ones are tested to run on AC power, so should work for any machine with atleast a voltage regulator.

    Anyway, for those that like specs, jump to under the photos. I'm thinking the angel eye style, even if the angle eye part isn't used, it has the best specs/price.

    "Angle Eye" style Blue, Red, Orange


    Standard Style (no ring on the outside).


    Specs:

    Angle eye style
    DOT approved
    Waterproof rating: IP67
    Voltage input: 9-32v
    Wattage: 45W/25W
    Lumans: 4750lm/2250lm
    Color Temp: 6000K
    LED Chips: Phillips (later the product says CREE branded, so conflicting info :-/)
    Size: 4x6in
    Lifespan: 50,000 hours
    Country made in: China
    Working Temp: ?
    Beam type: Spot

    Normal Style
    *NOT* DOT approved
    Waterproof rating: IP67
    Voltage input: 9-30v
    Wattage: 45W
    Lumans: 3060lm
    Color Temp: 5500K
    LED Chips: ?
    Size: 4x6in
    Lifespan: 30,000 hours
    Country made in: China
    Working Temp: -40~85c
    Beam type: Spot
    Last edited by ps2fixer; 12-08-2018 at 02:54 AM.

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    I personally love the normal style I have on my 200m its super bright and fits perfectly in the original bucket and looks stock. I went riding few weekends ago and besides people losing their minds over how clean my bike was they really liked the LED modification.

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    Ahh yea I forgot about the 200M being very similar to the 200es. I had a few people interested in my LED headlight on my 250es (same as the standard style above). I had to make home made brackets to bolt the light into the housing but it fits and functions well. My 250es is ugly, so the LED was the main attention getter lol.

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    Wow, so far seems like not many people like the angel eye style lol. Just wondering, but would it make much of a difference for the blue angle eye style, but with out the angle eye part hooked up? It looks almost the same as the standard style. Just trying to weigh options, since they are about $10 cheaper whole sale.

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    86125m is offline Got The Holeshot Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    to save 10 dollars I could be persuaded.

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    I like the standard. THe red wouldn't be so bad. The blue just pisses me off. Reminds me of those godawful headlights some people run that border on a giving me a migraine. LOL!!
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    Haha, well the ring light is optional to wire :P. I inquired about the angel lights to see what kind of shipping costs it will have. That might make a huge difference in the final cost per unit too.

    In my mind, the angle eye part is kind of meh, not really needed, but just for like a day time running light it could see it good for visibility while not blinding other riders.

    Might have to keep looking for other sources for the standard light, it costs more up front + shipping is $80 for 10. Total price isn't too bad for an end buyer, but with markup/mod costs it's going to be like $50 resale price + extra for the DC kit. The DC kit should be quite affordable though, I've dealt with the supplier I'm getting the regulator from before, and it's free shipping on large orders =).

    Off topic a bit, but I'm also buying some lighting bulbs in bulk, targeting the 350x headlight bulbs first. Should be as cheap or cheaper than other options for the HM202 style bulbs. I have the tail light bulbs too, so could sell them as a set/kit for OEM lighting. I'll have to see how the 3ww shop works with different buying options.

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    Angle eye style seller hasn't responded yet, might be a week day only type of business. Since there's a lot more interest in the standard style, I made an order for them. 5x for now to gauge interest a little better, not much difference in price if I buy 30x so no point in counting my eggs before they hatch.

    I did the match and the standard LED with wiring to plug into the OEM harness of a 200es will be $50 shipped (flat rate padded envelope, but the LED light is in a box inside). Not as well priced as I'd like, but the fact it fits the OEM housing and is plug and play should make it worth it.

    Anyway, I should have the package in 10-30 business days, hopefully I get it before new years. Would be nice to have it listed before Christmas, but can't expect too much for the slow boat from China.

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    I’ll take the first kit send me your PayPal info I’ll pre pay
    Will it fit the following models
    1983 200es
    200m not sure of year
    Thanks
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    I'll PM you about the payment info.

    As far as the machines you listed. The 200es is an 84 model, 200e was the model for 82-83, main difference is just shaft drive vs chain though. Both have regulator/rectifiers already, so electrically they are good. The headlight however is a bit of a weird case. The stock 84 200es headlight uses two clips/springs to hold the headlight to the ring around the light. If you have the 83 200e, it's bolted on. I'm pretty sure the clips will work on the 82-83 style ring though. Easy way to tell the difference is if you have the screw on the face of the ring to adjust it left to right. The part number for the clips you need is 33109-440-931 and is linked below (still in production). Two are needed, one per side. It's a tight fit since the LED headlight is thicker than the steel headlight housing, but I know other's have installed them in the past.

    https://www.partzilla.com/product/ho...ae83ba028a943e

    Both years of the 200M model (84-85) has the 84 200es style headlight stock, so it should already have the clips and such. The 200M also has the regulator/rectifier covered as well.

    Also all 3 machines use the same wiring for the headlight (200E, 200ES, and 200M).

    Let me know if you have any questions.

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    Well I received my order and they somehow got it wildly wrong and the packing was complete garbage. The stock connector that comes with the light is all busted up, no other major damage that I can see. Working with their customer support to see if they will send the rest of my order (4 lights missing), and see what they say about the broken connector. Depending how they send the 4 (maybe 5) lights will dictate if I'll ever order from them again. A plastic bubble mailer isn't suitable packaging, should have been in a box and packaged tightly.

    Also worth nothing, the LED light they have is the new style, has a small one way vent and the bottom has a spot for mounting it now. The base mount is super heavy, no wonder the shipping was so expensive, and have no use for it on the 200es and similar machines. Might be able to sell them for other machines like the 250es though if the buyer is willing to build/fab a place for it to mount to (same mount style as a fog light).

    EDIT:

    Update on this, I guess they shipped 3 packages for 5 lights, kind of weird but I have tracking numbers now. I'll wait till I get the others before I start modifying the wiring.
    Last edited by ps2fixer; 12-04-2018 at 02:18 AM.

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    i sent my payment for one headlight.
    i have a 1983 200e and a 200m are they still a bolt, plug and play application?
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    1983 Atc 70 Xmas special
    1984 atc 70
    1985 atc 70
    1989 hydrostream viper with 115 merc 60+ MPH
    1990 Gw invader 50 HP Merc 48 mph
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    2004 kfx 700 xc
    2004 kfx 700 xc
    2005 yfz450f super Motard streetbike
    2006 prarie 700 team green set up for xc racing
    2007loaded Polaris outlaw 525 xc bike
    2009 kfx 50 for my boy!!

    2009 necc vet c 2nd place
    2010 necc open A 3rd place

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    More or less yes on the 83 200e and 200m. The biggest thing you'll need is the spring/clips to mount the light like the 84 200es used (Honda still sells them). I'm about 90% sure the headlight ring will work. I'll get some photos up once I get a chance to show the differences between the OEM lights vs the LED lights for mounting. The LED housing is thicker, so it's a bit tricky to get mounted to the ring, but it for sure fits the 84 200es headlight ring.

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    What’s the eta on these and if it needs to be rigged to fit I’m not really interested. I’ll just put the money towards something else.
    1986 yamaha big wheel 80 (x2) one is a parts bike!
    1983 Atc 70 Xmas special
    1984 atc 70
    1985 atc 70
    1989 hydrostream viper with 115 merc 60+ MPH
    1990 Gw invader 50 HP Merc 48 mph
    2003 zr 900
    2004 kfx 700 xc
    2004 kfx 700 xc
    2005 yfz450f super Motard streetbike
    2006 prarie 700 team green set up for xc racing
    2007loaded Polaris outlaw 525 xc bike
    2009 kfx 50 for my boy!!

    2009 necc vet c 2nd place
    2010 necc open A 3rd place

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    I should have the last package tomorrow I'd think. Just want to wait till I have the full order encase there's issues and they have some dumb return policy like I have to return all to get things settled right.

    I wouldn't count the mounting system being rigged up, it's the stock way the 200es headlight mounts. If I recall correctly, the 82-83 headlight bolts on at the bottom, no clips.

    I found the old write up on these lights. This covers things pretty well. The stock 82-83 200e and 84-85 200m wiring has the requirements for the LED to function fine (regulator/rectifier). I also checked the part numbers for the 200m and both years used the same mounting system as the 84 200es. Here's the spring/clip that holds the light to the headlight ring, you need two for the 200e unless the headlight isn't stock for some reason.

    Good write up covering installing the LED in the 200ES headlight bucket - http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...-on-ATC-200-ES

    Headlight spring/clip (2 needed) - https://www.partzilla.com/product/ho...31a372e5007629

    Just to be clear, I replace the connector ends with the proper ones so it plugs directly into the stock harness, no modifying wiring or anything like that. if you have any more questions, let me know and I'll try to answer them as best as I can.

    Anyway, if you do buy one of these LED headlights from me, it would be great if you could test fit it in your 200e machine. I'm almost positive it will work with the 200es headlight spring clips but I have no examples of anyone using the spring clips in the 82-83 headlight ring. I should have the 200e style headlight bucket/ring around somewhere, just not sure off hand where it's at right now.

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