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    Thx again for everyone's input! I'm bnbjust gonna keep what I have on. As far as forks go, I'm in the process of adding a 200 front end.
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    What's the scoop on that headlight?

    Isn't it kinda hard to work on that while it's laying on it's side?
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    Thanks! I think im just going to keep what i have on for tires I am however in the process of adding a 200 front end. I picked it up for 80.00. Just getting things tacked in place. Still have a couple more adjustments to make. Im making it so I can keep my original Big red headlight. First picture is the 83 ATC 200 I got for 80.00, then the parts after i sandblasted them etc. I was able to head over to the steel company by my house where i picked up scrap 1/4 metal for less than 2 bucks. During the process of taking the shocks apart, I found one shock boot filled with dead red ants inside lol. All in all, the forks worked perfectly still, and nothing was froze or seized up. I will add more pics as I go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scootertrash View Post
    What's the scoop on that headlight?

    Isn't it kinda hard to work on that while it's laying on it's side?
    That's one of the LED headlighst I'm working on stocking and making plug and play. It's 45W. Not sure if that's the standard style or blue angle eye style, but no doubt the same base LED light. More info on them in my thread and the second thread is an old write up on them.

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    http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...-on-ATC-200-ES


    I have one on my 250ES and it's been a great light for me. Only issue is the plastic lens can scratch fairly easy. It's more or less a direct fit for 200E, 200ES, and 200M, haven't searched out the other machines yet. The 250ES it's the right size for, but requires a special adapter to bolt the light in.

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    How do you cut your tabs from 1/4" stock? The look so nice. Mine never look that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scootertrash View Post
    What's the scoop on that headlight?

    Isn't it kinda hard to work on that while it's laying on it's side?
    Sorry, i had the picture rotated the wrong way when i added it
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    I got those from the steel company by my house. They came like that. They have a pile of scraps left over from the laser cutting they do. I just bring them home and fine tune them.
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    I was going to guess water cutting or laser cutting, no way that was DIY at home unless you had some serious skills lol. Plasma cutter would do fairly well though if you have a stencil to follow or a CNC machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps2fixer View Post
    I was going to guess water cutting or laser cutting, no way that was DIY at home unless you had some serious skills lol. Plasma cutter would do fairly well though if you have a stencil to follow or a CNC machine.

    Ya, I have a cheaper plasma cutter to, no way would I get it that straight either, even if I had a couple beers to steady the hand lol. Exspecially the rounded part.
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    Looks good. I'm Doing a similar setup. What about the front rack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps2fixer View Post
    I was going to guess water cutting or laser cutting, no way that was DIY at home unless you had some serious skills lol. Plasma cutter would do fairly well though if you have a stencil to follow or a CNC machine.
    I'm glad you said that - I was feeling like a true hack looking those pieces.

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    Another though for MN250R. If you really want to play in the mud, you could keep an extra pair of rims with the mud tires of your choice mounted on them. Just change them out for mud riding where you won't see the speeds or bumps of trail riding where you want the rear suspension.

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    Ya, I might get an extra set for mudding. On a different note, the front end is almost finished with adding 200 forks. This is my first metal fabrication/ welding project.
    Not the greatest welder lol.
    I'm pretty happy with how it turned out .
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    Progress

    Pictures of the progress.
    Front rack is the original 84 big red one.
    I took alot of pictures of the progress.
    I used valspar red oxide primer, and harvester red valspar with hardener. Same as I did the gas tank. Has a nice shine to it.
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    I assume you're using a wire feed welder? The welds don't look too bad, but seems a bit on the cold side or too much wire speed. I'm by no means a professional welder, in fact I have very little time on a welder, but I grew up all my life with my dad welding things, and as he learned, I saw the effects. The welder should make a nice smooth buzzing sound when it's adjusted right.

    Basically, the power setting is how much penetration (how deep the weld goes into the metal), and the wire speed is how fast you have to move along the weld. There's a balancing point speed vs power too.

    I learned on an arc/stick welder, the moved to a small 220v mig/wire feed welder. I have yet to use it, but my dad bought a nice large/higher end mig welder by HTP. If you get serious about welding projects, I'd suggest that brand as the best bang for your buck and best quality for the price too. Can't remember what country they are based in, but I'm pretty sure it's in Europe. The one my dad bought even has "four wheel drive" as he calls it. Most consumer grade welders have a single drive wheel on the wire and it bird nests fairly easily, the HTP one has 4 wheels, all powered to push the wire and I've never seen it bird nest yet. Even when the wire gets welded to the tip, it's got enough push to break the weld and push wire though the clamped area, it doesn't weld smoothly though, the tip has to be cleaned to fix it.

    If your welder is the gas-less type, then the welds are probably not going to get all that much better, I've never seen pretty welds from those machines with the flux wire, never used one either though.

    Anyway, wasn't trying to bash your skills or anything, just trying to help/educate what I've learned. It looks like you've made great progress so far. I wish I had a garage to take on projects and get stuff done like this lol.

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