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  1. #1
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    Cant discypher engine number

    I am new to forum. Just picked up my first three wheeler
    Needs some work id like to know the model and year. Head badge cantvread vin but can read motor number
    It is TB05E5825917
    Cannot locate number on the honda chart listed on the forum..
    ON TOP RIGHT SIDE OF CYLINDER HEAD HANd operated decomp lever if that helps

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    Take a picture

    RIDE RED OR DIE

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    I scanned over that source page, and if I'm getting how the numbers work right, closest I could find was 83 200E. Since it's lining up with the 200 series Big read, overall pics would help a lot, also show the rear end area.

    84 200es is the only 3 wheeler to have a HUGE rear diff housing with the brake contained in the same housing. The 250es/sx used small diffs, and were suspended. Anyway, 200E was chain drive electric start, has sub trans, 200es was shaft drive electric start with reverse in the sub trans. 82 & 83 200E doesn't have neutral/reverse dash lights, 84 200ES has them.

    Also here's a short list (incomplete maybe) of all models with the decompression (not cable driven) lever on the head using our favorite part research site, partzilla.

    Honda ATV 1981 ATC200 A Cylinder Head
    Honda ATV 1984 TRX200 A Cylinder Head
    Honda ATV 1985 ATC200M A Cylinder Head
    Honda ATV 1984 ATC200M A Cylinder Head
    Honda ATV 1982 ATC200E A Cylinder Head
    Honda ATV 1981 ATC185S A Cylinder Head
    Honda ATV 1980 ATC185 A Cylinder Head
    Honda ATV 1983 ATC200E A - BIG RED Cylinder Head
    Honda ATV 1984 ATC200ES A - BIG RED Cylinder Head

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    found and ran VIN turns out it is a 1984 200 M has racks paid very little for it

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    Thanks for the follow up, yep the 84 200M engine number is closer to yours than the 83 200E.

    Here's the page for reference
    http://www.3wheelerworld.com/oldsite...Specpage.shtml

    And the data I'm basing it on:

    Engine number TB05E-5300004~

    vs your engine: TB05E-5825917

    I wonder if that 8 is actually a 3?

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    I'll recheck VIN and let you know

    Has a china carb leaks needle valve won't seat and shut off fuel plus pilot was plugged. Looking for rebuildable OEM carb meanwhile since I can't change out the needle vale seat I'll buy another and use it to get her running.

    It has a manual decomp. When checking valves should I move the decomp lever or leave closed?

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    What exactly are you checking on the valves?

    If I recall correctly, the decompression lever opens the exhaust valve a little. Assuming you're checking the valve clearance, you'd want to lever in it's normal spot for running.

    Also, the number I was referencing was the engine number, but I think the number would be in the VIN as well if it's a number matching engine to the frame.

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