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    Quote Originally Posted by ATC King View Post
    With the Supertrapp, the exhaust doesn't exit out the back, that's a dead end. It exits out the sides all around. The heat of the can is irrelevant here.
    Ah yea makes sense


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    Haven't checked in for a couple days, ended up getting it fabricated today. Took longer than I expected but it's finished now. I fit it all up on my other 84 200M, since it's more accessible and no fancy powdercoat to ding up. Turns out the frames are not identical so I had to do some tweeking of my Trapp mount to get it to fit perfectly on mine. Oh well. Header pipe is some random one i had laying around that fit really close. Slightly larger than stock...maybe a hair over 1" ID. Mid pipe is made from a chopped up 200X supertrapp header pipe, and I used the lathe to make ends to adapt to the 1.5" inlet of the Trapp, and used the mill to slot the other end for a clamp. That tubing turns like , but messing with my speed and feed and some cutting oil I got it to turn out ok.

    Ok King, so I can't really move it back any further because of the trailer hitch support. If I shift it enough to clear the hitch support it'll be like half an inch from the tire. I want more clearance than that so stuff isn't getting stuck in between or whatever. So they way I have it the exhaust will be hitting that hitch support but not much i can do about that.

    It came with 8 discs actually. I need one of those 360 degree shields I think. I didn't see them listed on their website, but found one on Pegasus racing. Cannot freaking believe they are $50 for that little piece of stainless. Unreal....should be like a $20 part TOPS

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    Last edited by BarnBoy; 01-23-2022 at 12:18 AM.
    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnBoy View Post
    Cannot freaking believe they are $50 for that little piece of stainless. Unreal....should be like a $20 part TOPS
    Yeah, the price is ridiculous. There's actually some Chinese Supertrapp knock-off stuff out there though. I'm not certain about a Chinese version of that heat shield, but some of the mufflers are on Amazon and Ebay.

    I'm not a fan of the Chinese copy and pasting other people's work, but that 'Made in America' sales pitch has a limit, especially when it's the same product they've been kicking out for decades but they've made vast improvements on the price.
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    This certainly showed more than your post on Honda Hoarders did. It's looking really good. I don't remember, but you are planning to rejet aren't you? Hopefully, you'll be ready to ride this trike soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350for350 View Post
    This certainly showed more than your post on Honda Hoarders did. It's looking really good. I don't remember, but you are planning to rejet aren't you? Hopefully, you'll be ready to ride this trike soon.
    Was just showing it off on Facebook, if people want more details theyre welcome to message me, but I like to do most of that in the forum build thread.

    Yep, definitely have to rejet. Have to figure that all out when i get it running. Currently looking for a clean uncracked intake manifold. All mine seem to have cracks in the plastic. Tried one of the cheap ones off ebay but it doesent fit. I could build my own from aluminum but I really dont think its worth the time LOL.

    ATC King, havent found a chinese copy yet. Wish I could, I guess Ill have to pony up for the Supertrapp shield....which is exactly why the price stays high.
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    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

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    I haven't found any lower priced shields either.

    Empi is one of the knock-off brands though.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/19407300157...UAAOSw6clgiWlE

    The price difference is large between the Empi and Supertrapp, but they look like the same thing. These aren't complicated designs or difficult to manufacture.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/14398753150...wAAOSwqXhgW6gm


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/31184450174...8AAOSwMtxXvdF9


    Here's some 4" Empi discs. I don't know if they're interchangable with the Trapp, but the price is about half.https://www.ebay.com/itm/22448389944...0AAOSwRolcY417
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    That's the cleanest 200m in the country. Awesome job
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    Interesting, if I had known about Empi I may have just gone that route. Only con is the 2" core for such a small motor, but being tuneable that may not be a big deal. The Trapp is a beautiful piece, and aluminum. I'm happy with it, but the cores and discs are way too much.

    Here's what I came up with for my head and mid pipe. It's a 200x head pipe, as fat as I felt like I could go without being too closest the frame up front. Hoping my end works well for the mid/head pipe connection. I turned it down and slotted it on the mill, hoping with a good stainless band clamp and a crush gasket it'll seal up well.

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    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

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    Awesome job! Top Tier build for sure!!

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    Little update, finally got the exhaust setup painted and installed. Used some ptfe sealing tape as a gasket....hopefully it works cause it was kinda $$$. Pretty happy with how it turned out actually. After I welded my original mount on the Trapp I decided I didnt like it mounted solid like that. No cushioning from any vibration, I just felt that I was gonna crack the mount or more likely the pipe around the weld. So, I found a vibration isolator mount to use and I think it will do the trick. Yes I am aware that this is a compression mount, its also 60 durometer high heat with a shear rating of 40 lbs. It will probably last as long as I do. The mount I originally welded on was not big enough to drill out for a grommet setup. I just turned a quick spacer and offset the mount 3/4", badabing badaboom. I did make my mount larger so in the event this doesent hold up for some reason I will be able to drill it larger and use a grommet if necessary. But I think it will work just fine.

    Got a crack free intake, and working on one last battery cable with PS2fixer and itll be a runner!

    edit: Why the heck cant I post pictures.....trying to do this off a real computer and im having issues. do we have any tech support on site anymore??
    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

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    Let's see how this works. For some reason the only way I am able to post pics is if I screenshot the original. Maybe my photos are too high resolution or something.
    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

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    Barnboy:

    We need an update...

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    Quote Originally Posted by patriot1 View Post
    Barnboy:

    We need an update...
    Update!! I found a good deal so I bought a house and am going to be making some more changes here in the next couple of months, so I have not hardly gotten anything done on the 200M. I really only need to finish the wiring, fuel, and its ready to fire up. Not sure when that will be though...just had so much going on. I work 5am-6 or 7 basically every day of the week between work and the house, and then all weekend. Sold my 200X roller, probably gonna sell my other 185s and 200e because I dont have time for them. I plan to keep as many parts as I can, along with the 200M and 250R. Yeah the R is basically in storage now lol. So the trike projects are kinda going sideways at the moment...I feel kinda stupid that a little 3 wheeler project has taken like 3+ years now and its still not done yet. But unfortunately priorities take over the fun stuff sometimes. My biggest mistake was probably getting sidetracked on the plastics. I learned really quick that there is no such thing as a quick sanding job on those things lol. A friend is supposed to be helping me get them finished soon. Also I need a battery cable which ps2fixer was supposed to make for me. But he has kind of dropped off the radar, been months since I heard from him. Havent got on here in a while, glad I checked back and that some people are still interested in an old 200M build!!
    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

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    So NEVER sell the 250R! If you do though, make sure to ask WAAAAY more than it's worth so that you'll have the money to buy AND fix up the next one!

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