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Thread: Barnboy's 1984 ATC200M Rebuild

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    BarnBoy is offline Just Too Addicted Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    It's a bummer but I didn't loose any sleep over it. I'm trying to get rid of stuff I a) don't need and b) will never have time to mess with. Want to pair my trikes down to the 2 200Ms, the 250r, and the 84 200X roller for an autoX swap. The rest ill keep any parts I need and sell the rest.. That 350x would just be another project I don't have time for but I wouldn't want to sell it either. That's what the sellers problem was, except I think he got hard up for cash or whatever and finally just decided it was time. I'd love a 300ex or 400ex swapped 350x though....that would be a blast.
    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
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    Yeah and I almost think I could build one of those hybrids cheaper than I could buy a nice 350x, lol.
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    Well the parts are in with fresh powder!! Everything looks amazing, super stoked. And if you didn't know I had repaired the 200M frame you wouldn't be able to tell now...looks slick. Best part was, I sold all the extra parts and junk from that load of 200X's today for $400 and paid for my powdercoating!!! That was a good haul, paid $250 for the lot, sold $600 worth of parts and still am left with a nice 84 200X roller and enough parts to put it together plus some spares!! Now I just gotta repaint my motor, get the rest of the parts zinc plated, and put this thing together.
    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

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    Wow, Looking great, you realize it will be nicer than factory at this point. lol

    great job!
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    Awesome job! I have been wondering how this was going since you got your R and another running M. Awesome Job!!!

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    Yes sir Mr.C she's gonna be a beauty. It's only worth doing if you're gonna do it right, the first time.

    Patriot, yeah not much time these days. The running 200M ended up being confiscated/sold to my brother. Which is fine, I can't ride 2 at the same time, and he'll enjoy it. 250r is strewn in pieces around the garage....I didn't powdercoat near as much stuff on it. Just the frame, swinger, hubs, and headlight guard. Would have been nice to do the rear axle, sprocket hub, foot pegs, and disc brake hub as well as the front hub but that was going to delay it even longer. It'll still look nice as is, and I may even have them PC'ed later when I get around to building it.
    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

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    Awesome stuff Lane, all came out great! You must be psyched!!

    Sorry I haven't been around much, overwhelmed ATM...
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    BarnBoy is offline Just Too Addicted Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtcrasher View Post
    Awesome stuff Lane, all came out great! You must be psyched!!

    Sorry I haven't been around much, overwhelmed ATM...
    Thanks Steve, I'm ready to get this thing finished.

    Got the motor stripped today. 3000 psi of boiling hot water peeled pretty much all the old paint off. I plugged the motor with some plugs I machined and they held great. Just on case I sprayed some wd40 down the intake and exhaust and spark plug hole and rolled it over. Hopefully nothing really got in anywhere else.

    Now I need to figure out how to proceed, paint or leave bare.....anyone have experience leaving blasted aluminum bare? So far I've heard mixed results.

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    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

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    It largely depends on salinity of the area atmosphere. Oklahoma, OK to leave bare, except anything bare aluminum needs to be polished. Vapor blasting would be the quickest way, but a finish of good-ol hand polishing would still be preferable.

    In Arkansas and nearby areas, I've had good results with polished bare aluminum and prefer it to anything painted or coated, because of the constant humidity. Anything painted or coated that has the finish compromised to bare aluminum is ripe for corrosion under it and corrosion tracks are sure to appear and start popping off the layer. It may take a while, but it will ruin the finish and need completely stripped to redo.

    The wheels on my truck are bare aluminum and take very little maintenance. I did spend a LOT of time with fine sandpaper, followed by a polishing compound during the first go. No way would I paint or coat them, because they would get chips and if I didn't seal the chip right away, corrosion would set in under the finish. All I ever have to do is bring out the hand polish to brighten them back up. If painted/or coated and they had corrosion, it'd require a total strip and repaint/recoat.

    The absolute best thing for aluminum is anodizing. Wanna be the first (?) to anodize a complete ATC engine?
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    The absolute best thing for aluminum is anodizing. Wanna be the first (?) to anodize a complete ATC engine?
    Honestly no because I do NOT want to take this thing back apart. In the future I definitely would consider it though. I'm probably going to give it a light polish by hand and leave bare. I do not want to spend the insane amount of time to do a proper polish job, but I don't really want to mess with painting it again either. I'll just keep it clean after riding.

    The next engine I do will ABSOLUTELY be vapor blasted, id do it to this one if I wouldn't have to pull it all apart again.
    Last edited by BarnBoy; 06-20-2021 at 12:56 PM.
    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

    Da velder
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    We are making progress. Got the freshly powdered triples installed with tapered roller stem bearings. And the skid plate bolted on. Every nut and bolt is going to be replaced brand new or NOS if it's an odd size, so I need to order some more hardware.

    I have a small batch of parts to take to the powdercoater, mostly stuff I was gonna get zinc plated and decided why not just get it powdercoated too. I got the rims, front hub, and a few other odds and ends I decided I'd like to get coated too.

    Goal is to make this a rolling chassis, then go from there but it will be nice when it can finally roll around. Ordered a new set of tires too....I wanted Maxxis Zillas but they recently discontinued the 25x12x9 size, so I just got some ITP mud lites instead. Thought about bear claws but they look a lot stiffer than mud lites, I didn't want something too rough of a ride. And I got a deestone knobby for the front.

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    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

    Da velder
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    BarnBoy is offline Just Too Addicted Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    New set of boots arrived! May be 3 weeks out on powder so might be a bit before I get them mounted. Meanwhile I get to figure out what to do with my engine, paint or not.

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    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

    Da velder
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    Well I've had a bunch of time the past week or 2.to get stiff done. Started a new job about a month ago, usually we work 5-3:30, but this week we are on 8's so I get off at 1:30pm. Pretty awesome, feels like I have half my day left!! But unfortunately this is a rare occurrence so I'm trying to make the best of the extra time. Powder should be finished this week, still waiting on a few parts from here and there. All these little NOS rubber bushings and hardware add up!! I'm going all yellow zinc hardware, as much as possible.

    Cleaned up the airbox with soap and hot water, then used a Turtle Wax product for plastic restoration to wipe and rub on. Worked great so far, shines it right up and gives it a real slick finish, dirt shouldn't stick and it really makes it look brand new.

    Next step is getting wiring harness figured out and all that little stuff finished, as well as painting the motor. I'm just gonna be happy when she rolls on all 3!! Stay tuned!!

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    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

    Da velder
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    BarnBoy is offline Just Too Addicted Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    Got my powder coat stuff back and tires mounted. Specifically told the tire guys to watch it with my fresh powder on the rims....said yeah no prob but when I picked them up there's a couple pretty good size dings and chips in the powder. I realize happens, but sheesh....is it that hard to not rush through a job and just pay attention?

    Anyway, I gotta modify my bearing carrier and get it repowdered as it doesent fit quite right yet. THEN I can get this thing rolling on 3 wheels, hopefully.

    And I should have the motor painted here in a little while. Will update with info on that too.

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    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

    Da velder
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    Ok so still waiting on powder, had to modify my bearing carrier for it to fit perfectly so it needs recoated. Whenever I get.my stuff coated I ask for a bit of "touch-up" powder in a bag. A little powder mixed.with some MEK makes basically a powder touchup paint so to speaks. The MEK softens the powder and existing powder on the part and creates a great touch up medium. Of course what I had to do on the carrier required a recoat

    Waiting on a front brake drum dust seal and the front end will be assembled.

    Rolled my wheels up beside the bike to get a rough idea....its gonna be sweet. Also got the wiring harness repaired and completely rewrapped with 3M super 88 electrical tape. Had to get a few bullet terminals and a crimper to fix the taillight wiring and a few other damaged connectors. Thanks to PS2Fixer for his help with that.

    Apparently I can't post pictures on here...I have no idea why.
    Last edited by BarnBoy; 07-24-2021 at 08:26 PM.
    1984 HONDA ATC200M - OG, mid-restoration
    1981 HONDA ATC200 - future build
    1981 HONDA ATC185S - parts
    1984 ATC200X - roller, future build
    1984 Honda ATC250r - in a million pieces- ISO grab bar, PM if you have one

    Da velder
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