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    Question about 200X lugs

    When I bought my 200X, the guy threw in a set of 9" aluminum wheels. The wheels fit the bolt pattern but the bolt holes are wider and are plastic lined. I was told that is normal and I all needed was tapered lug nuts. I got some tapered lug nuts but I am finding that the lug bolts are too short and the nuts only thread onto the bolts about 1/2 way before bottoming out on the wheel. Anyone know what hubs I need to switch to? Or do I or even should I replace the lugs with longer lugs? Or is there another solution?

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    All 200xs were 4x110 bolt pattern. You need hubs off one of the following. anything per below.

    Trx250x 87-92
    Trx300ex all years
    Trx300x all years
    Trx400ex all years
    Trx400x all years
    Trx450r/er all years

    The pressed in hub bolts are longer. 200x ones were very short due to no using tapered lug nuts. When used g tapered one you need longer studs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldskool83 View Post
    All 200xs were 4x110 bolt pattern. You need hubs off one of the following. anything per below.

    Trx250x 87-92
    Trx300ex all years
    Trx300x all years
    Trx400ex all years
    Trx400x all years
    Trx450r/er all years

    The pressed in hub bolts are longer. 200x ones were very short due to no using tapered lug nuts. When used g tapered one you need longer studs.

    Thanks for the info. My TRX300ex hubs arrived the other day and I installed them today. Mounted the new Ocelot P336 tires and 9" wheels. Really like the look and the wider stance.

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    I have the same issue, I just picked up some D.I.D. gold wheels and the wheel studs are too short and I need tapered lug nuts.
    Instead of buying hubs (I have a press) Is there a longer wheel stud that can be pressed into the stock 200x hubs?
    Also does anyone have a size or part number for tapered metric studs?
    I have the same issue on my 85 Big red (wheel spacers factory lugs are too short)
    I would prefer to just swap out the wheel studs.

    Thanks
    MrC.

  5. #5
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    Oh crap, is the front hub different 200x vs 250r?
    I have an 11inch gold enkei rim but the pattern is bigger than my 200x hub. Crap! That's what I het for not checking.

    Options? Different hub or different wheel?
    to add another problem my 2 inch spacer wont fit the OE 8 inch wheels.

    Mrc.
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    The front rim you have is 3rd gen 250r. The bolt pattern is smaller than 83-85 200x. It will be cheaper to buy a set of rear hubs like listed above than buying new studs.
    Last edited by atc300r; 05-27-2020 at 07:43 AM.
    250r rules

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    Wow, Thank you.
    As for the front hub, would a gen 3 250r hub fit my 200x?
    or should I look for a different rim?

    If I scrap the whole plan, what wheel spacers would fit my 8in factory 200x wheels?

    Thanks
    MrC.

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    You can get an 86-87 200x,85-86 350x or 85-86 250r front hub for your rim.Or get 83-85 200x or 83-84 250r front rim for your hub.
    250r rules

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    The 200x 8" wheels are unique as the inside diameter of wheel is smaller than all others. Have the outside diameter of the spacers you have machined smaller.

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    Thanks guy, this is my first rodeo as you can tell.
    I have even considered having my factory OE 8in wheels power coated (gold) and sell the gold wheels I have.
    Do all the hubs listed in the beginning of this thread give the same increase in Width? or would one give more
    than another?

    MrC.

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    ok,
    I opted to buy a new front rim 83/84 gold 250r and a pair of 300ex hubs and 8 flat lug nuts with coned shape washers.
    Thanks for all the help.
    MrC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atc300r View Post
    You can get an 86-87 200x,85-86 350x or 85-86 250r front hub for your rim.Or get 83-85 200x or 83-84 250r front rim for your hub.
    ATC300r, I wanted to come back to this thread and thank you for your incite and help, I got a new front rim that matched my currant 200x hub and a pair of new 400ex rear hubs along with some cone washers and lug nuts, it all fit together perfect tonight, I am just waiting on my rear tires. Thank you again.
    MrC.
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  13. #13
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    MrC.Glad to help.
    250r rules

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