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  1. #1
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    Thumbs up Rear tires glued to the rims???

    Bought a 85 225DR for fun and the tires are shot..big holes in them.
    I have the new tires, but can't break the bead on the old tire to get them off the rim.

    I ended up cutting one because the rubber is trash, and it look like the tire is glued on.

    Has anyone ran into this???

    Help is appreciated!

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    yes, there is a tire sealant used when the rims are pitted, be sure and wire wheel it off before you mount your new tire.
    generally a tire machine will break it loose, otherwise by hand its a pain. cut the tire off, cut the steel band of the tire with a 3 inch cut off wheel
    or grinder, careful not to cut the rim. then cold chisel off the rest of it. Then wire wheel or flap disc the rim until smooth, you may need to use a little black
    sealant yourself if the rims are really pitted.

    Old tires were thicker, less likely to conform to the rough surface of the rim, like thinner cheaper tires of today.

    It can be a bear.
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    The bead can be very tight... it is almost always VERY tight. I've had the worst time on steel rims. It seems that aluminum rims are easier to break the beads and demount tires. Are you using a bead breaking tool, or something else?

    I've never had a bead glued to the rim. I have had them where the tire spun on the rim and left some rubber on the rim (maybe melted on?).
    - Frank

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    They don't look to be too pitted from the inside.

    Theyre dirty in there from time spent sitting I assume.

    I'm going with the soapy water, flat head, crowbar method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewil1478 View Post
    I'm going with the soapy water, flat head, crowbar method.
    If you're talking about breaking the bead, I don't think that will work. If you mean to get the tire the rest of the way off of the rim once both beads are unseated, ok. I use an actual bead breaker tool and with the difficulty of breaking some, I really doubt you can be successful with a crow bar. The beads on ATV rims/tires is way more aggressive than other wheels/tires (like lawnmowers or trailers) since ATVs operate at such low pressures.
    - Frank

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    1986 250SX
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    I use the cheapo method bead breaker. I have a 2x6 about 36" long with one end concave to conform to the shape of the rim. I put the concave edge right up against the rim along the bead, the other end on the ground then drive my truck up onto the wood nice and slow until the bead pops. Flip it over and do it again. Works like a charm. ��
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    A dealer or any tire shop can change the tire for a few bucks. Get the rim back have it sand blasted an powder coated so the next tire has so thing not to glue its self to.

    I stopped messing with tires to save a few bucks.

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    stuff is called bead sealer, oreilys carries it. ive used a propane torch on rims to soften up the rubber to break the bead. jim
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