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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Golightly View Post
    But John here is what really gets me upset and and pisses me off - we have these crazy fantasies that some magic act is going to happen and fix everything (whether it is Nesara, gesara, mass timed arrests of the swamp, illuminati cults being disbanded, wtf ever) that people continually feed and perpetuate that accomplish NOTHING.

    those that are perpetuating and preaching these things will burn brain power and effort about that kind of crap but they haven't:

    Picked up a telephone and actually called and talked to a clerk in a federal congressional reps office about a federal bill (did a single one of you fuckers call and complain about the time and resources wasted on a second impeachment before trump leaves anyways??) no you didnt.

    Has anyone sat in a call bank and actually dialed and made calls for a candidate you DO lile and care about?

    Has anyone been a poll watcher?

    Has anyone stuffed envelopes and sent mailers from an affiliated political organization to independent and unregistered voters?

    Has anyone ever tracked, read, or watched bills go through your state houses?

    Sat in a city council or county commissioner meeting and actually came to the podium and asked questions publicly? Or called one of their offices and asked about something?

    Has anyone ever attended a school board meeting or learned about someone in that position before voting for them?

    Is anyone active with a local (geographical) political club? Ie republican or libertarian or flying spaghetti monster party meetings?


    I'm not convinced that these wild theories are not even intentionally made by the left to occupy and distract people from planet real world that needs to happen. Everyone would rather sit at home and read and post in an echo chamber than do some of the things I mentioned above, because its greasy and uncomfortable.
    Some of those things you list I have done. Not recently. Tick tock. I pray I am correct. But nobody really know the plan. If we did, the wrong ppl also would. I am simply staying tuned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Golightly View Post
    But John here is what really gets me upset and and pisses me off - we have these crazy fantasies that some magic act is going to happen and fix everything (whether it is Nesara, gesara, mass timed arrests of the swamp, illuminati cults being disbanded, wtf ever) that people continually feed and perpetuate that accomplish NOTHING.

    those that are perpetuating and preaching these things will burn brain power and effort about that kind of crap but they haven't:

    Picked up a telephone and actually called and talked to a clerk in a federal congressional reps office about a federal bill (did a single one of you fuckers call and complain about the time and resources wasted on a second impeachment before trump leaves anyways??) no you didnt.

    Has anyone sat in a call bank and actually dialed and made calls for a candidate you DO lile and care about?

    Has anyone been a poll watcher?

    Has anyone stuffed envelopes and sent mailers from an affiliated political organization to independent and unregistered voters?

    Has anyone ever tracked, read, or watched bills go through your state houses?

    Sat in a city council or county commissioner meeting and actually came to the podium and asked questions publicly? Or called one of their offices and asked about something?

    Has anyone ever attended a school board meeting or learned about someone in that position before voting for them?

    Participated in teh commentary of a state or federal notice of rule making from some regulatory body? (The recent attempt to reclassify arm braced pistols to short barreled rifles by the BATFE is an example of what I'm talking about)

    Is anyone active with a local (geographical) political club? Ie republican or libertarian or flying spaghetti monster party meetings?


    I'm not convinced that these wild theories are not even intentionally made by the left to occupy and distract people from planet real world that needs to happen. Everyone would rather sit at home and read and post in an echo chamber than do some of the things I mentioned above, because its greasy and uncomfortable.
    William, I understand your point of view, I do. I understand how rooted in politics you are and how the Johnny-come-latelys probably seem like a pain to you. I have acknowledged your experience. All hail William, king of politics!

    So a lot of my focus was based on being positive or negative as I said. The simple point I was trying to get across is, an idea will never become reality if the idea doesn't exist in the first place.

    To compliment that point, I was saying these are some very extenuating circumstances. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

    To answer your questions, no, I have not done any of those things. Again, I'm new at this. William is the authority here in case anyone didn't realize that. I realize this is something that you have poured a lot of time and energy into. A few months ago I was thinking to myself that I'd like to get involved with something, but my circumstances here are less than ideal for that. After November 3rd I'm glad I didn't waste my time.

    Nobody is questioning your experience or efforts, and I understand we seem like kooks to you, but these are some seriously trying times. I have seen things happening over this last year I never would have imagined happening in this country, and as I think about these things I cannot imagine how they'd be corrected. I do think it's going to take something special to get us out of this, I do. Something different than making phone calls and stuffing envelopes, and that's great that you called them, but you called deaf ears.

    I don't know much, but I know our system is broken. I believe it's far too late to vote or deliberate a way out of this. As I said, I think these people need to be reminded that they work for us. Our game, our rules.
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    I don't know about politics in the grand scheme of things - really, I don't. But I can recognize productive and non productive efforts, and that's all I was hoping to share and make some people contemplate by my posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Golightly View Post
    Nesara is a friggen conspiracy pipe dream that never even had more than a few co sponsors in congress and never even made it to the senate.

    Its a wonderful conservative pipe dream but its just that, a pipe dream. It never passed or became law and hasnt been lurking innthe shadows waiting to take affect since 9/11.

    Get states to pass convention of the states legislation so we can have constitutional amendments for term limits and balanced budget if we're going to burn brain power on fruitless endeavors.
    But hopefully that blood, will cause them to start seeing things the right way?! Idk
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    reprograming conservatives minds and juneteenth

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Golightly View Post
    I don't know about politics in the grand scheme of things - really, I don't. But I can recognize productive and non productive efforts, and that's all I was hoping to share and make some people contemplate by my posts.
    That's not true, you know a lot about politics. You know that. I'm pretty well versed on the day to day happenings right now but you have years of history and experience just like you said. You understand a lot of procedures and stuff that I don't know anything about. Don't sell yourself short. I may have prodded you in my last post but you are very well versed in politics.

    I don't disagree with you on everything and I don't disagree with the people you consider "conspiracy theorists". I've researched I guess what you would call "normal" news as well as "conspiritorial" news. Now I'm not saying I buy into every single word and I have my doubts about JFK Jr saving the day and all that, BUT, pizzagate seemed to have a lot of validity when that was still a subject that was easy to research. Funny how not much material is available anymore on that subject. I have to wonder why it is anyone wants something silenced if there is no truth to it.

    My issue with conservatives and "doing things right" at this point is, that has already failed. Republicans have no farking balls and they let the left walk all over us, and I used to wonder why. Now I know. It's because they are complicit. They lie and cheat and have used and abused our system. Coming at them through "official" channels will likely not yield the results we need. We need to flush the whole gall dang toilet. Asking them to stop is like the referee of a game asking the cheating team to please stop and leaving it up to them whether or not anything is done about it. It should be game over at that point. All avenues have failed us, time to fix it.

    I'm not trying to convince you of anything, but I did suggest I feel you could be a bit more positive. I don't mean that to insult and I'm not trying to change you, you're your own man. Everyone who has posted to this point wants the same thing for the most part, we're on the same team. I don't see views different than yours as being a huge detriment to our cause. I have seen a lot of people who share your view lately, but they're groaning about things they're assuming are not going to come to fruition, and nobody knows that yet. People are searching for scraps of hope right now, and I'm sure some are desperate. To be honest though, this was all predicted. I was told months before the election there would be massive cheating. That turned out to be true. I was told we wouldn't believe the amount of officials we have in office who are not working in the best interest of their constituates. That was proven true as well. I was told there would be an information blackout. That's happening as we speak. I was told there would be power outages, and we saw that in Pakistan and the Vatican. Is that hard proof of anything? Only that someone was expecting all of this.

    Also, it's funny how many stories I follow with laws being broken on a massive scale, then they just go flat. Crimes that nobody in this country should ever get away with unpunished, yet it seems to happen over and over again. I imagine and hope these will all be revisited. I'm hoping they've all been filed for review at the appropriate time.
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    Some good posts here.

    First,IMHO, the only reason Trump is labeled a "politician" is because he ran for office. Some say he only ran as a Republican because he never would have gotten support from the Dems cuz Hillery was their candidate and "It was her turn". Maybe, maybe not.

    I think that in his lifetime of construction in NY he had to grease a lot of palms politically and otherwise to be successful and stay in the construction game. I think during those types of dealings he saw a lot of the corruption in politics, and he didn't like what he saw and how much money it cost him.

    I think one of his reasons for running against Hillery was because Her and Bill screwed him out of a large sum of money and played the "It's not personal Don, it's just business" card, and he wanted payback.

    Ya know maybe he really did want to give the government back to the people and try to eliminate the fraud, cheating, and graft? The left sure was worried about something Don may have exposed or done, they were claiming they were going to impeach even before he was elected. After all, he ran in their circles and saw a lot of thing us peasants will never see. the right just played along enough to try to salvage their political carreers

    He exposed a lot during his term, and neither side liked it. He was threatening their $$ gravy train, hence why this election went the way it did. They were all in on the cheating and fraud because if he won again I think he would have exposed more.

    I don't think Conservative = Republican. Fabio, I do like "Constitutionalist"

    In reality Trump was an outsider and the career politicians couldn't allow that , especially if he didn't play along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    My issue with conservatives and "doing things right" at this point is, that has already failed.
    Spot on sir!

    The other thing about conservatives is the "take the high road" attitude. Yea, that's worked so well for the last several decades
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    Ok who was the Mad Bomber that took a dump in Nancy P’s top drawer of her desk? That’s what I call an Upper Decker. Russia gate declassified for all to read. Just hope everyone reads it and come to a group thought that no matter what side Big Gov is not here to help.
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    While this isn't exactly what William was saying, if you watch this whole thing I feel like this is along the lines of what he meant. Not trying to put words in anyone's mouth! I do understand the point though.

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    Trump had many tools at his disposal,, and still does,, to attempt to try and save humanity. He has done nothing. Anyone who has not sustained a brain trauma can probably figure out that the trillions of OUR $$$$$$$$ that Pelosi and company sends overseas, Rep and Dem , goes round and round and lands in THEIR bank account. That is a very simple thing to trace and prove. Has anything been done in 4 years? Nope. Instead Barr sat there holding a chair down. Trump has handed us to the wolves on a silver platter. I am not being pesimistic, I am being real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atc007 View Post
    Trump had many tools at his disposal,, and still does,, to attempt to try and save humanity. He has done nothing. Anyone who has not sustained a brain trauma can probably figure out that the trillions of OUR $$$$$$$$ that Pelosi and company sends overseas, Rep and Dem , goes round and round and lands in THEIR bank account. That is a very simple thing to trace and prove. Has anything been done in 4 years? Nope. Instead Barr sat there holding a chair down. Trump has handed us to the wolves on a silver platter. I am not being pesimistic, I am being real.
    While we are in the last hours for certain, you've jumped to conclusions. It's not over yet, and that right there is the fact. With as much as you've invested in this, you're just going to give up before it's even over? Exactly like they WANT YOU TO DO? I have a list of quitters in my mind. I couldn't imagine investing myself so deeply into something then just throwing in the towel before the buzzer has even gone off. That's like throwing out an undercooked pizza because you know it's going to end up burnt! Think about it!

    I saw a theory today that said they're allowing the fake inauguration of Biden in order to further implicate even more people and gather even more evidence in their case against this rigged election and attempted overthrow of the president. It's just a theory, but it makes sense.

    Will Trump lose all of this and cause us all to lose face and destroy his own legacy? I highly doubt that. As stacked as everything seems against us, I don't see him going through everything he has only to fail in the end.

    So if you're quitting state your case right now so we know who we're talking to. If you're not a part of this adding your prayers and support for the president I don't expect to see you celebrating after he wins, right?
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    Not gonna argue with you bud. No need whatsoever to doubt my patriotism or support of the Trump family. ALL of them. If this just washes through and Biden is President and we have handed ALL of the keys over to the globalists. What say you then? He is waiting until 4 more years? It has been a never ending dream. It is go time, and I see nothing. We'll all know for sure in a very short time. I know FAR too many military friends and family sitting at home or on base right now with no orders. I have never in my life, ever wanted to be wrong so badly
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    He's made his farewell speech. I understand he was up against the world, but the problems were right down the street. None of that matters now.We've been handed off like sloppy thirds. Any guesses on how many weeks until semi's are offered to be " bought back"? How many weeks/ months until you are not allowed to buy a bullet without a license and restrictions? How far you will be able to travel without a updated vaccine card? Which will be a never ending merry go round with whatever they want to try on you. How long until the disabled who must depend on others for care, will also have to be at the complete mercy of getting stabbed with whatever needles they demand or go without care/food etc. 99% of the eyes reading this now are already blacklisted " White domestic terrorists" Don't believe me? Tune on any TV set. I don't watch, but I've seen enough clips to know. Will paper money be worth anything but fire starter 2 years from now? How many months until Harris is in? Anyone know about this steaming pile? How many months until gas has doubled? It's already up.79 a gallon here. I am in Pa. The gas industry is already laying loads of guys off as they have been blatantly promised, they ARE out of work. The DEMons have vowed to crush each and every Trump supporter. They are gonna try,and it is not gonna be a slow trickle It's gonna be fast and furious.
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    If any good can come from this situation I hope that it is the fact we cannot idly sit by and rely on the charisma of any one politician to win elections for us. We have to be highly involved in the dirty greasy political process in local and federal levels and actually work in it and treat it like work, like a side job you get paid for, or a side business you have to lose a few free weekends a year over, and have some late nights after work during the week for meetings and political work. You're furthering your cause just like a small business you'd be starting on the side and working on to see the fruits of your labor.

    Too many kicked back (myself included this time) and waited for daddy Trump to kick ass and take names while we proverbially set on our asses. We were out campaigned and out politically worked by the Dems. WE FAILED to do our side of the coin to ensure trump was reelected and that we didn't lose the senate. I'm pissed at these conspiracy theories because I think they were false hope and false pretense and false sense of security to conservative activists, and it at the very least contributed to this loss.

    If it isn't too late (and it very well may be with the rate were printing money) we must learn from this experience that being passively involved in politics and operation of our country is NOT TO BE DONE PASSIVELY FROM HOME AND ON THE INTERNET, BUT ACTIVELY, IN PERSON, AND WITH DAILY DEFINED INTENTION.

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    It literally is simple as that. ^^. Why are we here? NOONE wants to be bothered by politics. It is filthy. Complacency. Not just the last 4 years. All my life. Noone wants to be bothered. Hell, many don't vote. I get it. There are very very few,if ANY good choices. I stayed on the White House, every day . They damn sure knew who I was. They clearly know where I stand. I saw these fairy tales of Santa Surfing and Q and just shook my head. Wouldn't that all have been nice....I messaged the WH, D2, Evanka and Eric DAILY. Drian the swamp. I get it. The swamp is worldwide and Trump literally worked every waking second. When Pelosi, Schumer and company, 600+ of them weren't being arrested by last summer, I knew we were done. Where do we go from here? Is Alex right, is it the end of the world? Concentration camps in less than a year? Won't surprise me. Are the Libs more right and it's not gonna be that bad....I doubt it, but sure hope so. Either way. It is up to EVERY LAST able bodied man and woman to damn sure make sure their voice is heard!! Locally, in person, statewide with emails and phone calls and also federally. We the People are supposed to run this damn thing, not 1000 devils worldwide controlling us.
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