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    "I'm pissed at these conspiracy theories because I think they were false hope and false pretense and false sense of security to conservative activists, and it at the very least contributed to this loss." If it weren't for those damn theorist, most ppl would not even have an understanding of the steel. but thanks for the blame man! At least some see. Cant do much but make ppl aware. Ya, its our fault most have been duped my the main stream. 95 percent of everything ppl see hear read is controlled by 6 corporations all lying to you. But it must be those damn conspiracy nuts. lets blame them!!! oh dear!

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    And that's the other thing and then I really do need to try and take a step back away from all of this for a day or two again;

    I don't know if the "both sides are the same, I'm not going to bother participating in this system by voting or otherwise because its all bs" mindset is actually propagated by those in power wielding the system, but it sure as does benefit them.

    Think about it - the less people that are less involved in the process and the system, the more things these people in power do and can get away with goes unchecked. Does anyone disagree with that assessment?

    To who's benefit is it then, if people are frustrated and unwilling to participate in the system of checks and balances in politics?

    Would those in power not have good reason to discourage folks from actually understanding the system and processes, and participating in it because it limits their own ability to play fast and loose to them and their friends benefit?



    Looks politics is complicated as . It's part of what I meant when I said earlier I didn't know anything in the grand scheme, because I don't really. The process was not originally so nasty and slimy 250 years ago, but overtime it's become what it is because it is natural human tendency to try and make it into an exclusive club and give yourself a little extra edge when you're in that position. That little extra edge for the last 245 years has compounded into what we have today. Coupled with conservatives general disdain and lack of interest in the process. We have to read the proverbial rule book, come to learn and understand the innerworkings and processes within the political system, and friggen use them. I find that most conservatives loathe the political system because it feels and looks slimy - it is, no disagreement there. But that apprehension to learn the system, understand it, and utilize its processes is what has landed us here. The opposition has *zero* hesitation in doing so, and we at least have to learn to *NOT* just stick our heads in the dirt over it because we don't like it, and it makes us uncomfortable. The best and most productive change comes from getting out of your comfort zone and doing things that give you anxiety.

    If people would go and join their local city/county republican committee club and volunteer at it and WORK in some sort of a capacity and bring your insight to the process vs allowing the process to bring its insight to you (in the form of media) we could make a hell of a difference. And we should have this last time. But maybe we will learn from this experience. I hope.
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    Because of "conspiracy theorists", a hell of a lot more ppl see what is up now. And how complicit the "media' is in it all. The media is loosing some power they have. Personally, I think the conservative vs liberal and the republican vs democrat is also a big illusion. Meant to divide and control. As long as I can recall we have had this illusion. But no matter who we "elect", they do not keep campaign promises. They work together to further this crap! And they fool you and I into believing there is a choice. Till Trump that is. The "news" don't say it but some know he has fulfilled his promises to the best of his ability. First one since Regan tried but was shot. first since JFK tried and was killed (not true that narrative). Every other president has been a controlled deep state hack! "republicans" and "democrats" both have sold us to the highest bidder in order to line pockets of themselves and family. This is NOT left vs right. An illusion most smart ppl still cant see.

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    Trump showed everyone there is only a "Uniparty" comprised of career politicians. Two party politics is an illusion. More Americans need to push for a Convention of States and put limitations on D.C. power

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    reprograming conservatives minds and juneteenth

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Golightly View Post
    If any good can come from this situation I hope that it is the fact we cannot idly sit by and rely on the charisma of any one politician to win elections for us. We have to be highly involved in the dirty greasy political process in local and federal levels and actually work in it and treat it like work, like a side job you get paid for, or a side business you have to lose a few free weekends a year over, and have some late nights after work during the week for meetings and political work. You're furthering your cause just like a small business you'd be starting on the side and working on to see the fruits of your labor.

    Too many kicked back (myself included this time) and waited for daddy Trump to kick ass and take names while we proverbially set on our asses. We were out campaigned and out politically worked by the Dems. WE FAILED to do our side of the coin to ensure trump was reelected and that we didn't lose the senate. I'm pissed at these conspiracy theories because I think they were false hope and false pretense and false sense of security to conservative activists, and it at the very least contributed to this loss.

    If it isn't too late (and it very well may be with the rate were printing money) we must learn from this experience that being passively involved in politics and operation of our country is NOT TO BE DONE PASSIVELY FROM HOME AND ON THE INTERNET, BUT ACTIVELY, IN PERSON, AND WITH DAILY DEFINED INTENTION.

    /rant off before I have a coronary.
    If there's anything conservatives excel at, it's losing and convincing others to prepare to lose. Completely nutless. We all watched their tremendous shortcomings on full display and their lack of allegiance to this country and it's people.

    First thing's first William. Every conservative I know lives to tell you we're going to fail and revels in the "I told ya so" after every failure. It is the "conspiracy theorists" who have high hopes and obviously that didn't work out, but their optimism isn't their downfall.

    One thing I haven't noticed in any of your posts William, is the mention of how the "winner" of this election cheated and how the republicans are complicit. I know you'd much prefer to blame us, but seriously, phuck you and the horse you rode in on. We were cheated, and I'm irate. You're completely dismissive of the fact that this is a totally illegitimate election. Would you be trashing "conspiracy theorists" had the republicans won? Or is it just a convenient excuse for you to blame these people for the loss?
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    Also, "new" republicans surged to the polls this year, people like myself who never cared about voting or politics before. All the conspiracy theorists and wack jobs who didn't do anything to help the president did do at least one thing; they voted, like never before I'm guessing.

    We won, we didn't fail. They cheated, they stole it from us. I fail to see how this country can stand this. This is a literal death blow to our country. We're officially done with, and I'm not being mello dramatic or whatever the saying is, but court orders, subpoenas, and elections all mean zilch in this country from this point forward. We are bought and paid for, and I don't understand the lack of outrage personally. I don't think the American people should be settling for this. I'm going to have a serious problem with every leftist I encounter from this point forward.
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    How about the "Hunter Biden Conspiracy"?

    This was released by the senate on or about 1/17/21:

    https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/med...port_FINAL.pdf

    Synopsis:

    I. EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

    II. INTRODUCTION

    III. CONFLICTS OF INTEREST

    IV. THE VICE PRESIDENT’S OFFICE AND STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS WERE
    AWARE OF BUT IGNORED CONCERNS RELATING TO HUNTER BIDEN’S ROLE
    ON BURISMA’S BOARD.

    V. SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY FALSELY CLAIMED HE HAD NO
    KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN’S ROLE ON BURISMA’S BOARD.

    VI. STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS VIEWED MYKOLA ZLOCHEVSKY AS A
    CORRUPT, “ODIOUS OLIGARCH,” BUT VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS
    ADVISED NOT TO ACCUSE ZLOCHEVSKY OF CORRUPTION.

    VII. WHILE HUNTER BIDEN SERVED ON BURISMA’S BOARD, BURISMA’S
    OWNER, ZLOCHEVSKY, ALLEGEDLY PAID A $7 MILLION BRIBE TO
    UKRAINE’S PROSECUTOR GENERAL’S OFFICE TO CLOSE THE CASE.

    VIII. HUNTER BIDEN: A SECRET SERVICE PROTECTEE WHILE ON BURISMA’S
    BOARD.

    IX. OBAMA ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS AND A DEMOCRAT LOBBYING FIRM
    HAD CONSISTENT AND SIGNIFICANT CONTACT WITH FORMER UKRAINIAN
    OFFICIAL ANDRII TELIZHENKO.

    X. THE MINORITY FALSELY ACCUSED THE CHAIRMEN OF ENGAGING IN A
    RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN AND USED OTHER TACTICS TO
    INTERFERE IN THE INVESTIGATION.

    XI. HUNTER BIDEN’S AND HIS FAMILY’S FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS WITH
    UKRAINIAN, RUSSIAN, KAZAKH AND CHINESE NATIONALS RAISE
    CRIMINAL CONCERNS AND EXTORTION THREATS.

    XII. CONCLUSION

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

    Liberalism suspends the intellect of its victims, while at the same time tricking them into believing that they're smarter than everyone else.


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    FWIW, I think Trump did his best. It's pretty hard to get anything done when EVERYBODY doesn't want you to succeed.

    He was an outsider trying to expose the corruption, the only reason he's called a "politician" is because he ran for office.

    The right and the left would have suffered if he had succeeded, as well as the global elites that run everything.

    F them all.
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    Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

    Liberalism suspends the intellect of its victims, while at the same time tricking them into believing that they're smarter than everyone else.


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    I'll be honest, I lost all hope on inauguration day. Before inauguration day, I would get right on the case of anyone telling me they'd given up. After inauguration day, I felt just as hopeless as them. My disappointment in Trump and the entire movement was monumental.

    I will say I have regained a sliver of hope. Two days ago I had none, now I have very little, which is probably the most hope I'm capable of unless something changes. I feel I've been led to believe in something that didn't exist. I hope I'm proven wrong.

    If you still want to hope something could happen, here is some decent information.

    https://youtu.be/aP9EvUk4CYs

    https://youtu.be/eK47z2QBV0Y

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    John,

    Please consider checking out what this young lady has to say from time to time. She is one of the best constitutionalists I have heard, right behind Mark Levin.

    https://krisannehall.com/
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    YouTube videos or links to external “sources” are no way to convey ones view or beliefs in my humble opinion

    You all need to learn how to communicate with bullet points, no way am I going to read your diatribes, it’s like diarrhea, not solid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Clean View Post
    YouTube videos or links to external “sources” are no way to convey ones view or beliefs in my humble opinion

    You all need to learn how to communicate with bullet points, no way am I going to read your diatribes, it’s like diarrhea, not solid
    I have not even looked at the above vids. BUT, I seriously MUST disagree with you my old friend. There is not a damn thing wrong with showing a vid. And I have no Idea why one would think that!? Some ppl have a hard time conveying what they want to say. It is in there but hard to communicate. Some of these ppl who make these videos work there asses off to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    I'll be honest, I lost all hope on inauguration day. Before inauguration day, I would get right on the case of anyone telling me they'd given up. After inauguration day, I felt just as hopeless as them. My disappointment in Trump and the entire movement was monumental.

    I will say I have regained a sliver of hope. Two days ago I had none, now I have very little, which is probably the most hope I'm capable of unless something changes. I feel I've been led to believe in something that didn't exist. I hope I'm proven wrong.

    If you still want to hope something could happen, here is some decent information.

    https://youtu.be/aP9EvUk4CYs

    https://youtu.be/eK47z2QBV0Y

    https://themarshallreport.wordpress....e-corporation/
    I just wanted to say that I have been feeling much like you. It did not go down the way I thought it would. I hit a very low spot. But, like you, I am keeping my eyes open. Looking. Watching. And I also have regained some hop though more than a sliver. That monkey werks dude I have been following for a long time. It is great stuff!

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    reprograming conservatives minds and juneteenth

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Clean View Post
    YouTube videos or links to external “sources” are no way to convey ones view or beliefs in my humble opinion

    You all need to learn how to communicate with bullet points, no way am I going to read your diatribes, it’s like diarrhea, not solid
    Who cares what you think?

    No YouTube videos and no "diatribes". OK so we can't tell you and we can't show you. Did your wife teach you this trap? I'm not certain who granted you any sort of authority as to how the rest of us communicate here but if you don't like it shove it up your snob arse and go look at another thread you vapid prick.
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