reprograming conservatives minds and juneteenth

[mymint87]

how many realize June 19th 2020 (Juneteenth)...... was the day the enslaving corporation our nation was bound to...... was abolished?


how many realize NESARA is coming?


how many realize the desperate futility the left shows when they talk of the insurmountable task of reeducation camps for conservatives?


how many realize it's a confession by the left that the majority of the population has awakened?





I've been watching the heavens for the past 3 years...an incredible story of biblical proportions has been playing out right above us..the last sign in a phase of 4 periods was on Dec 21 2020....we are about to receive blessings beyond imaginations..we have been living through Armageddon... It didn't end with the destruction of earth as we were taught in most of our churches....It's actually the beginning of the 1000 year reign of the son of man...

[wild200x]

Wow! someone on the same page as me??? And its Minty??? Awesomeness.

[BarnBoy]

how many realize June 19th 2020 (Juneteenth)...... was the day the enslaving corporation our nation was bound to...... was abolished?


how many realize NESARA is coming?


how many realize the desperate futility the left shows when they talk of the insurmountable task of reeducation camps for conservatives?


how many realize it's a confession by the left that the majority of the population has awakened?





I've been watching the heavens for the past 3 years...an incredible story of biblical proportions has been playing out right above us..the last sign in a phase of 4 periods was on Dec 21 2020....we are about to receive blessings beyond imaginations..we have been living through Armageddon... It didn't end with the destruction of earth as we were taught in most of our churches....It's actually the beginning of the 1000 year reign of the son of man...

I would like to see the Bible passage that says that the reign of the "Son of Man" (Jesus Christ) will be on this earth. Also, I do not recall ever reading anywhere in the Bible that at the end of time the we will receive "blessings beyond imagination".

Here's a sobering thought, the human race is filled with evil. What if the things that are happening are a punishment for the past years of absolute disregard for anything that is right and true? Remember God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for the very actions that are being touted as "normal" and "ok" today (Genesis 19) We have repeatedly spit in the face of our Creator, who simply commanded us to glorify and obey him with our lives. Is a punishment not justly deserved? What has anyone in this world done to "deserve" unimaginable blessings? There is no way out of the current situation EXCEPT for people to turn to the Lord and repent of their sin.

People may make fun of those facts all they like, but the reality is that you are going somewhere when you die. To heaven, or hell. Like I said, sobering thought, but there IS hope. (Joel 2:12-14)

[fabiodriven]

Lol. Leave it to the deeply religious to do their best to imply guilt, shame, and darkness during a time when people need hope. I'm so glad I was never confirmed as a catholic.

The years have taught me a lot about God, love, and the gift of light. They also taught me that organized religion is a sham, and no man stands between God and myself.

Excellent post Minty.

[DAM shop]

Lol. Leave it to the deeply religious to do their best to imply guilt, shame, and darkness during a time when people need hope. I'm so glad I was never confirmed as a catholic.

The years have taught me a lot about God, love, and the gift of light. They also taught me that organized religion is a sham, and no man stands between God and myself.

Excellent post Minty.

All organized religion is fabs, is a group of people with a common belief. A religious group that does good in the world can’t be all bad.

[Billy Golightly]

Nesara is a friggen conspiracy pipe dream that never even had more than a few co sponsors in congress and never even made it to the senate.

Its a wonderful conservative pipe dream but its just that, a pipe dream. It never passed or became law and hasnt been lurking innthe shadows waiting to take affect since 9/11.

Get states to pass convention of the states legislation so we can have constitutional amendments for term limits and balanced budget if we're going to burn brain power on fruitless endeavors.

[fabiodriven]

Nesara is a friggen conspiracy pipe dream that never even had more than a few co sponsors in congress and never even made it to the senate.

Its a wonderful conservative pipe dream but its just that, a pipe dream. It never passed or became law and hasnt been lurking innthe shadows waiting to take affect since 9/11.

Get states to pass convention of the states legislation so we can have constitutional amendments for term limits and balanced budget if we're going to burn brain power on fruitless endeavors.

In my brief time in politics the different groups have become crystal clear to me. It's funny because every long-term republican I know thinks exactly like you William, and none of y'all know each other lol. Being a long-term republican almost ensures you're skeptical of anything positive coming from your own party, and I completely understand why that is. I'm not a republican because they are neutered pushovers with a dismal outlook and defeatist attitude. I'm also not a republican because our entire government aside from a very select few have shown me that's they do not stand for our country and in actuality are enemies of the state. Ideally this will be shown to the world soon, fingers crossed.

At the end of the day, neither you, William, nor Minty, are able to predict the future. Neither of your posts is one word more credible than the other.

In MyMint's post I see hope and excitement.

In traditional republican fashion William, you've already given up. That's the fastest way to fail at everything.

[fabiodriven]

All organized religion is fabs, is a group of people with a common belief. A religious group that does good in the world can’t be all bad.

I've come to appreciate them much more lately but it's still not for me.

[wild200x]

Lol. Leave it to the deeply religious to do their best to imply guilt, shame, and darkness during a time when people need hope. I'm so glad I was never confirmed as a catholic.

The years have taught me a lot about God, love, and the gift of light. They also taught me that organized religion is a sham, and no man stands between God and myself.

Excellent post Minty.

Excellent post here!

[Billy Golightly]

Quite far from having given up - but I am very much a realist.

Okay, talk to me about NESARA then.

Who originally submitted the bill? Who cosponsored it? What committees did it go through? Did it ever get a floor vote? If it did, how many voted for it? Did it move to the senate? How many votes did it get there? What HR (House resolution...) # was it? What SB # was it? Has anyone preaching this mess actually researched it enough to even vaguely answer these questions to yourself?


The bill text is easily read online on any number of conspiracy theory websites. But they talk in vagueities and very little specifics as to how and when it actually passed or came to be law other than it was "supposed to be" voted on the day of 9/11. Why are the things above never talked about or mentioned when talking about nesara or gesara? Why are there no interviews with the original bill submitter or any cosponsors? There are records of all HR's for every session ever. It's not rocket science to get off of the conspiracy theory and dreamy qanon websites and actually do a little factual research on these types of things and make your own opinion.

Look I'm not saying there isn't a big conspiracy out there about the election and a lot of other things. I'm a bigger believer in that kind of stuff than most people. But there has to be some research into these representations and theories in order to support them. A version of this was submitted in the senate in 2018 and never went anywhere. Why would it have been submitted again if it passed and was law back in the early aughts?

My problem with a lot of this stuff is it is like the 9/11 conspiracy theory videos. Some guy is on a video waving his arms around and showing clips of things and reading text with *very* little context or background with the SOLE INTENTION of making your mind run with the inferment of the pieces presented. But if you look closely at how the information is presented and do a little bit of your own research you become fully aware of how corrupted the presentation of what you were lead to believe was.

I'm as conservative as they come. But I don't chase pink fairies and unicorns. Because the fuckers aren't real. I have to live and operate in planet real world and like it or not this is where we're at now. I'm sorry but you guys that actually think something as substantial like that has already passed and is just lying in waiting based on some bullshit internet websites are delusional. Please stop burning valuable brain power on "Win the lottery" fixes like this, and work on things that are real and actual. I'm sorry, but this is how I really feel.

Trump had a chance of retaining the office before the electors voted in December. After that it was basically zero (ie, fractions of a percent). After the elector count last week he has no chance. The only way Trump still retains office is if there is an actual literally coup in our country, which no one wants, no matter who is president because that will lead to chaos the likes of which no living person has witnessed. If you're intellectually honest with yourself this is no better (and maybe worse) than the socialists who for months prayed and hoped that Bernie Sanders would still clinch the nomination some how amongst the hundreds of articles that were written and shared across the internet and in print detailing every little precise movement and jingle of a leaf that just might cause a butterfly affect for Bernie to still win. Like for real ya'll, take a step back and look at ourselves. How was this any different then that - ?!

In my brief time in politics the different groups have become crystal clear to me. It's funny because every long-term republican I know thinks exactly like you William, and none of y'all know each other lol. Being a long-term republican almost ensures you're skeptical of anything positive coming from your own party, and I completely understand why that is. I'm not a republican because they are neutered pushovers with a dismal outlook and defeatist attitude. I'm also not a republican because our entire government aside from a very select few have shown me that's they do not stand for our country and in actuality are enemies of the state. Ideally this will be shown to the world soon, fingers crossed.

At the end of the day, neither you, William, nor Minty, are able to predict the future. Neither of your posts is one word more credible than the other.

In MyMint's post I see hope and excitement.

In traditional republican fashion William, you've already given up. That's the fastest way to fail at everything.

[wild200x]

In my brief time in politics the different groups have become crystal clear to me. It's funny because every long-term republican I know thinks exactly like you William, and none of y'all know each other lol. Being a long-term republican almost ensures you're skeptical of anything positive coming from your own party, and I completely understand why that is. I'm not a republican because they are neutered pushovers with a dismal outlook and defeatist attitude. I'm also not a republican because our entire government aside from a very select few have shown me that's they do not stand for our country and in actuality are enemies of the state. Ideally this will be shown to the world soon, fingers crossed.

At the end of the day, neither you, William, nor Minty, are able to predict the future. Neither of your posts is one word more credible than the other.

In MyMint's post I see hope and excitement.

In traditional republican fashion William, you've already given up. That's the fastest way to fail at everything.

"republican" and "Democrat". Two sides of the same coin. An illusion meant to divide. for decades we have seen this. They blame one another and then high five on the way out! You are given an illusion of "choice". always having someone else to blame. and then we switch it up, the same goes down. War, promises given and never kept, blaming and high fiving. TILL NOW. this is what I think we will all be waking up to or part of it. Though some have been awake for a long time. Me personally since 911. Also, bring civics back to schools! "right wing" vs "left wing". People need to figure it out. This is good vs evil. not left vs right. and there are a whole lot more good people in this world than evil. we have simply been duped by the system we have lived under. Chang the system!

[fabiodriven]

Quite far from having given up - but I am very much a realist.

Okay, talk to me about NESARA then.

Who originally submitted the bill? Who cosponsored it? What committees did it go through? Did it ever get a floor vote? If it did, how many voted for it? Did it move to the senate? How many votes did it get there? What HR (House resolution...) # was it? What SB # was it? Has anyone preaching this mess actually researched it enough to even vaguely answer these questions to yourself?


The bill text is easily read online on any number of conspiracy theory websites. But they talk in vagueities and very little specifics as to how and when it actually passed or came to be law other than it was "supposed to be" voted on the day of 9/11. Why are the things above never talked about or mentioned when talking about nesara or gesara? Why are there no interviews with the original bill submitter or any cosponsors? There are records of all HR's for every session ever. It's not rocket science to get off of the conspiracy theory and dreamy qanon websites and actually do a little factual research on these types of things and make your own opinion.

Look I'm not saying there isn't a big conspiracy out there about the election and a lot of other things. I'm a bigger believer in that kind of stuff than most people. But there has to be some research into these representations and theories in order to support them. A version of this was submitted in the senate in 2018 and never went anywhere. Why would it have been submitted again if it passed and was law back in the early aughts?

My problem with a lot of this stuff is it is like the 9/11 conspiracy theory videos. Some guy is on a video waving his arms around and showing clips of things and reading text with *very* little context or background with the SOLE INTENTION of making your mind run with the inferment of the pieces presented. But if you look closely at how the information is presented and do a little bit of your own research you become fully aware of how corrupted the presentation of what you were lead to believe was.

I'm as conservative as they come. But I don't chase pink fairies and unicorns. Because the fuckers aren't real. I have to live and operate in planet real world and like it or not this is where we're at now. I'm sorry but you guys that actually think something as substantial like that has already passed and is just lying in waiting based on some bullshit internet websites are delusional. Please stop burning valuable brain power on "Win the lottery" fixes like this, and work on things that are real and actual. I'm sorry, but this is how I really feel.

Trump had a chance of retaining the office before the electors voted in December. After that it was basically zero (ie, fractions of a percent). After the elector count last week he has no chance. The only way Trump still retains office is if there is an actual literally coup in our country, which no one wants, no matter who is president because that will lead to chaos the likes of which no living person has witnessed. If you're intellectually honest with yourself this is no better (and maybe worse) than the socialists who for months prayed and hoped that Bernie Sanders would still clinch the nomination some how amongst the hundreds of articles that were written and shared across the internet and in print detailing every little precise movement and jingle of a leaf that just might cause a butterfly affect for Bernie to still win. Like for real ya'll, take a step back and look at ourselves. How was this any different then that - ?!

I understand your view pal and I respect your experience in the political realm. Just a couple of things though.

I used to be an extremely negative person. I used to say that I was being “realistic” all the time. I remember my girlfriend at that time trying to get it bored in my head just how negative of a person I was, and she would bring that up every time I said I was being “realistic”. Well hindsight is 20/20, and she hit the nail on the head.

A difference between the two points of view being shared here is one is searching for reasons that something could happen, one is searching for reasons it won't. I do understand the documented history you have provided, but the longer our politics sit at this stalemate, the more likely it is that our only way out of this situation is some seriously drastic measures. I see two options myself; either the dems win, or if Trump pulls through there are going to be extraordinary changes to our country, and not just politically. Speaking specifically about politics though, if extraordinary changes do occur under extraordinary circumstances, then our institutions will be turned upside down. I think the possibility of what could be is expansive and possibly beyond what we're able to imagine right now.

If a political party has conditioned their people to the point they're used to low expectations, they could feasibly get away with accomplishing absolutely nothing while maintaining their constitutes. Their constitutes would likely be none the wiser. By removing hope and optimism from the equation your politicians have effectively ensured that their people remain dormant. You expecting nothing good from them is a very low bar for them to have to live up to. They've been held unaccountable long enough. The first step to any progress is hope, before taking action. Eliminate hope and there will be no action. Hope and optimism are step one though, nothing can happen without those two things. These people work for us and it's time they're reminded of that. Voting is compromised, legislation ignored, court orders and subpoenas blatantly disregarded... These people are criminals to the letter of the law. If you want to get bogged down in a system rigged to keep you entangled while they go home to their mansions every night, keep playing along with them. You will never get anywhere. It is time for the people to take back what is ours, and that means taking the entire Monopoly board, including all the rules they've created to make them teflon and ensnare us and keep us down, and smashing it in their faces. Game over. Time for them to lose.

COULD this happen? Yes, as you've agreed you still have hope. WILL this happen? Nobody I know has an answer to that right now, but for me this goes above and beyond the history of some bill. Knowing history is an excellent way of predicting the future, but in this case there seems to be some serious extenuating circumstances.

I've found mixed results when I've looked into this in the past, but did Trump disband or break off our relationship with the federal reserve? I thought he did. If so, that's something that should be the headline across the planet. If he did and it didn't make the headlines, that means it's an even bigger deal than if it had made the headlines. If so, it makes Minty's prophecy a bit more likely as well.

"republican" and "Democrat". Two sides of the same coin. An illusion meant to divide. for decades we have seen this. They blame one another and then high five on the way out! You are given an illusion of "choice". always having someone else to blame. and then we switch it up, the same goes down. War, promises given and never kept, blaming and high fiving. TILL NOW. this is what I think we will all be waking up to or part of it. Though some have been awake for a long time. Me personally since 911. Also, bring civics back to schools! "right wing" vs "left wing". People need to figure it out. This is good vs evil. not left vs right. and there are a whole lot more good people in this world than evil. we have simply been duped by the system we have lived under. Chang the system!

Exactly right my friend. When I first got into politics I thought “Oh wow! This is interesting!” I took my time and I began by figuring out the difference between liberals and conservatives. Not long after I figured that out, I declared myself a conservative. A few months later and I knew I was not conservative. I am a Trump supporter, I guess a constitutionalist.

I didn't question why I got into politics that much after I did, but I did question why I didn't get into it sooner. It took me months but the answer finally came. Through the years on this forum I would never take part in political discussions. I always said American politics is two claws of the same monster and I said it was a waste of time to partake in and even vote. Even voting I said was a waste of time. As it turns out, I was right. All that time everyone spent following American political theater and they may as well have been watching pro wrestling. All fake, all bee ess, just like I said.

Then I wondered, why am I interested now? That took a long time for me to figure out also. Trump. Trump is what got me intrigued because unlike any recent politicians before him, he actually does what he says he's going to do, against all odds. He will not give up. Our entire planet is fighting either for or against this man, but he has some major detractors, the most unearned name smear in history, and global interests fighting against him, yet he persists, and he's yet to say he's not going to win. The man delivers, he's known for it, so I find it tough to believe that the man who has brought us so much could possibly go out on such a low note by losing. Honestly he'd be about the biggest loser on the planet, and I don't even like to say that, but if lets his supporters down this is big. Yuuuuge. It's just not an option.

[BarnBoy]

Lol. Leave it to the deeply religious to do their best to imply guilt, shame, and darkness during a time when people need hope. I'm so glad I was never confirmed as a catholic.

The years have taught me a lot about God, love, and the gift of light. They also taught me that organized religion is a sham, and no man stands between God and myself.

Excellent post Minty.

No sir, I think you may have missed my point. I'm trying to say that there IS hope! There is hope in Jesus Christ and him alone. Im not sure what else could possibly give you any more hope. I know for myself, I can't even stop something as simple as a getting a cold, or stop a drop of rain falling from the sky. How could I expect to save myself from anything of this proportion?

I also agree, no person should stand between you and God. God is love, but he hates evil and will punish it. I am not speaking from any kind of organized religeous point of view, simply from the view of the Bible. I'm also pointing out the fact that nowhere in the Bible do you find mention of 1000 yrs reign of the Son of Man on earth. Hope that makes some sort of sense.

[fabiodriven]

No sir, I think you may have missed my point. I'm trying to say that there IS hope! There is hope in Jesus Christ and him alone. Im not sure what else could possibly give you any more hope. I know for myself, I can't even stop something as simple as a getting a cold, or stop a drop of rain falling from the sky. How could I expect to save myself from anything of this proportion?

I also agree, no person should stand between you and God. God is love, but he hates evil and will punish it. I am not speaking from any kind of organized religeous point of view, simply from the view of the Bible. I'm also pointing out the fact that nowhere in the Bible do you find mention of 1000 yrs reign of the Son of Man on earth. Hope that makes some sort of sense.

Absolutely, yes it does. Very well said.

[Billy Golightly]

But John here is what really gets me upset and and pisses me off - we have these crazy fantasies that some magic act is going to happen and fix everything (whether it is Nesara, gesara, mass timed arrests of the swamp, illuminati cults being disbanded, wtf ever) that people continually feed and perpetuate that accomplish NOTHING.

those that are perpetuating and preaching these things will burn brain power and effort about that kind of crap but they haven't:

Picked up a telephone and actually called and talked to a clerk in a federal congressional reps office about a federal bill (did a single one of you fuckers call and complain about the time and resources wasted on a second impeachment before trump leaves anyways??) no you didnt.

Has anyone sat in a call bank and actually dialed and made calls for a candidate you DO lile and care about?

Has anyone been a poll watcher?

Has anyone stuffed envelopes and sent mailers from an affiliated political organization to independent and unregistered voters?

Has anyone ever tracked, read, or watched bills go through your state houses?

Sat in a city council or county commissioner meeting and actually came to the podium and asked questions publicly? Or called one of their offices and asked about something?

Has anyone ever attended a school board meeting or learned about someone in that position before voting for them?

Participated in teh commentary of a state or federal notice of rule making from some regulatory body? (The recent attempt to reclassify arm braced pistols to short barreled rifles by the BATFE is an example of what I'm talking about)

Is anyone active with a local (geographical) political club? Ie republican or libertarian or flying spaghetti monster party meetings?


I'm not convinced that these wild theories are not even intentionally made by the left to occupy and distract people from planet real world that needs to happen. Everyone would rather sit at home and read and post in an echo chamber than do some of the things I mentioned above, because its greasy and uncomfortable.