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    ebay carbs?

    anyone have issues with these 24 dollar carbs? my beater 185 didn't have a carb so I bought a China carb. it starts fine with the choke on but doesn't want to idle with the choke off. tried adjusting the mixture screw and tried moving the needle up. I dont have a air filter on it yet, (ordered) tried a new plug, moved the timing. it seems to be the carb. My other 185 has the same carb and runs great. Since 185 number 2 runs great, I dont want to mess with pulling the carb.
    For 24 bucks, im thinking of just ordering a new one and see if it changes anything. jim
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    should have also mentioned adjusting the idle speed its either rev real high or die. jim
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    82 185s with 85 200s motor
    suspended 185s
    85 atc70
    1984 200s
    85 350x 3rd owner
    and a 72 ct70

    projects coming along

    85 200s
    81 suspended 185s (can't believe I came across 2)
    1982? 185s

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    Jim Mac,
    We have flipped a lot of trikes over the years and we can say for certain that those carbs you speak of are very inconsistent in there Performnce just like you spoke of. I’m no quite sure why that is but my guess would be the internal passages has something to do with it. Stick to a OEM carb and save yourself the aggravation if not today tomorrow. There’s a reason those sell for 24 bucks.
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    I had 2 with a warrior i bought. They don't work right. Some parts you can rob off them but much more then a few parts the casting are junk. Stay open and ultrasonic clean your old one. Cant get it to run right ask a shop to dial it in.

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    I found a original carb, went ahead and ordered a kit for it, new plug and a petcock for the tank. It's a good thing I like working on these things. when I swapped the 200m axle to a 185 axle I found 2 rusty bearings, which I ordered but haven't installed yet. I keep jumping between the 2 projects and really should concentrate on making 1 nice then working going to trike no.2 then to trike 3. jim
    81 185s
    82 185s with 85 200s motor
    suspended 185s
    85 atc70
    1984 200s
    85 350x 3rd owner
    and a 72 ct70

    projects coming along

    85 200s
    81 suspended 185s (can't believe I came across 2)
    1982? 185s

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    I have to side with DAM and oldskool here. The only Ebay carbs that I run are used OEM carbs. I bought an Ebay carb once when I though that my 200X was having carb issues. I found out that while the OEM carb is a Kehien, I had bought a Mikuni so I had no idea where to even begin to try jetting. I put the Mikuni back into the box and it's still there many years later. I ened up turning the 200X into an AutoX and used the OEM 200X Kehien. Then I swapped it to an OEM XR200 carb that I bought used off of Ebay. It runs great.

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    I took a chance on one of the knock off VM24's when I was putting my YT175 together since used carbs were within 10-20 bucks of brand new Mikuni. It started, and I did get it to run enough to ride it around the yard with the choke on but that was the only way it'd run because it was so lean. Needed to rejet which I assumed was no biggy, I've got plenty of Mikuni jets in stock. Turns out, they fumbled on the easiest part of a carb to copy... the JETS. Main jet is the same size but a different thread pitch, pilot jet is proprietary or maybe lawnmower parts. I couldn't find anything remotely like it in any bike carb catalog. Ended up spending 80-90 bucks on a used OEM carb anyway but the thing starts/runs like it should.
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    Depends on how much a person understands about carbs, but even then, you're still paying your money and taking your chances.

    On the issue of it idling high or not at all, I'd check for air leaks. Especially since it'll only idle with the choke, which causes fuel to be drawn through other circuit than just the idle. Once enough air is added, the idle will just shoot up with the extra fuel.

    The Chinese carbs I've dealt with have accepted OE jets, and the majority of the time, they need the ones they come with, swapped out to the OE sizes. Many times, that's not going to be right either and they'll need something close to OE sizes, but one or two below and above.

    For a Chinese carb that won't accept OE jets, drilling and/soldering is the option. That is typically intimidating or beyond most people who don't have years of experience with tuning various types of carburetors, but learning new things is a positive. Jet drill kits are readily available. They are just tiny drill bits with a hobby knife (Xacto) handle. For soldering, practicing on some junk jets is a good idea. I have used these methods on many lawn care small engines, like mowers and tillers, because various jet sizes aren't typically available and many of the newer machines are jetted so lean for emissions, that they surge, run poorly and hot.


    Price is the big motivator. Paying near new prices for a used carb motivates me to seek an alternative, even if it takes a little more effort to sort out. I don't think the Chinese carbs are a bad option for many of the ATC applications and you may just flat out get a bad one because quality control isn't like it would be on branded products.


    One issue I found in a Chinese carb was easily remidied. It's post #295 in this thread: http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...-trikes/page13
    http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...03#post1514703
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    I've bought 5 or 6 china carbs off ebay over the years and 2 of them have worked really well. I put one on my YT175 and runs it great, the one I put on my 110 works well too but it runs a bit rich.

    I would be better off just cleaning up the OEM ones but for a quick bolt on and go for booting around the yard, I can't complain.

    Just depends how picky you are and what kind of riding you do.
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    I tried the starting fluid on the intake and carb mating surface and no change on the idle. jim
    81 185s
    82 185s with 85 200s motor
    suspended 185s
    85 atc70
    1984 200s
    85 350x 3rd owner
    and a 72 ct70

    projects coming along

    85 200s
    81 suspended 185s (can't believe I came across 2)
    1982? 185s

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    okay, took the original carb that I had. turns out the clip that holds the needle down was missing, maybe that's why it didn't run right? anyway, installed the clip and bolted it on, added gas and it runs 100% better. even runs with the choke off. probably a little lean without a air filter, which should be here next week. ive got another 185 carb missing the slide, so maybe swap the china slide to the original slide and keep it as a spare. jim
    81 185s
    82 185s with 85 200s motor
    suspended 185s
    85 atc70
    1984 200s
    85 350x 3rd owner
    and a 72 ct70

    projects coming along

    85 200s
    81 suspended 185s (can't believe I came across 2)
    1982? 185s

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    The slide is probably a different size as well.
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    it might be but it's really close, I was able to swap the slides between either carb. Another issue i have is im using a little plastic bottle to push gas into the carb. im sure im pushing gas past the floats. the petcock should be here in a week, so a steady correct float level should do wonders to make it run properly. air filter element will be here this week too. jim
    81 185s
    82 185s with 85 200s motor
    suspended 185s
    85 atc70
    1984 200s
    85 350x 3rd owner
    and a 72 ct70

    projects coming along

    85 200s
    81 suspended 185s (can't believe I came across 2)
    1982? 185s

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    The best NON oem cheap carb ive seen is a company called Zoom Zoom. They are some nuts thats are crazy about warriors. I ended up using some of the insides like plastic peices as they were made nicer then OEM carb but nothing much after that. Jets did swap OEM to non OEM with there carbs atleast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim mac View Post
    anyone have issues with these 24 dollar carbs? my beater 185 didn't have a carb so I bought a China carb. it starts fine with the choke on but doesn't want to idle with the choke off. tried adjusting the mixture screw and tried moving the needle up......
    If you buy ten or twelve of them, there's a good chance that 1-2 of them might work just fine.
    It's a real crapshoot, and the odds of getting a junk one are pretty good.

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