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    Some countries have announced lockdown again. I don't think that the pandemic will be over soon since the virus mutates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rettespeedup View Post
    Some countries have announced lockdown again. I don't think that the pandemic will be over soon since the virus mutates.
    Nope. Even China is getting cases again.

    Big Brother and all the power hungry, smarter than you politicians can say and do as they please, but at the end of it all it looks like it will be herd immunity and not masks, lockdowns and gene therapy that ends this, but even though there were doctors preaching this at the onset that are now silenced, they will still end up being “wrong”.

    The ones still pushing what now seems to be an outdated “vaccine” will always claim that had everyone taken the jab it would have worked.

    It’s no different that if the authorities claimed we could fly if we all jumped off a cliff and flapped our arms. When all the believers fell to their deaths they wouldn’t admit they were wrong, they would just say we didn’t flap hard enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Camexican View Post
    .... , but at the end of it all it looks like it will be herd immunity ....
    During this Plandemic, there have been numerous fancy buzzwords that the media used to confuse people who were stoned during sophomore Biology class.

    "Herd immunity" is a bullshit term that's used nearly completely out of original context.


    If you have a herd of anything, and in that herd you have 70% of each individual in the herd has immunity, but the other 30% does not, it does not mean the other 30% are safe and sound "because herd immunity"

    To the members of the herd who are immune, it doesn't matter what the percentage is of members of the herd without immunity. You either have it or you don't and it's not something you got by osmosis purely for hanging around in a herd that's mostly full of immune subjects to a particular disease

    I feel like I'm surrounded by alot of dumb or intellectually lazy people out here in the world.

    Herd immunity is something they made up to get people to run right down and get a vaccine which is not a vaccine, does not protect you from , does not protect you from giving that to someone else, and it's generally useless except to kill people (45K vaccine deaths so far in the US before they magically lowered that number on the website to 16K deaths and then they stopped reporting it altogether now just like they stopped reporting how many vaccinated people got covid and ended up in the hospital anyway)(there's a class action lawsuit right now over the 45K deaths) or as a way to generate MASSIVE amounts of cash selling bullshit gene therapy disguised as "vaccine"....... One of which was already taken off the market for killing and maiming people all over Europe

    BTW I'm covid "positive" and been sick for a week. It sucks but it's not the worst I've ever been sick. Your results may vary.

    Immunity....... You either get it or you don't. It's not a herd thing

    45K deaths and counting just in the US alone, and that's just what was reported.

    The FDA has a TERRIBLE track record approving drugs. All one needs to do is turn on late night TV for all the lawyer commercials describing all the complete neglect and failures of the FDA to do their damn job. Of course the FDA is a revolving door for drug company execs who've corrupted the entire process.

    WHO THE F**K trusts the MOST FINED DRUG COMPANY(S) IN HISTORY OF THE US MAKING THEIR "VACCINES" FOR THEM?

    Simple Google search.......

    You take that jab, you take your chances

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    So here's a thought:

    What if there really are no "variants"?

    There's plenty of evidence in Fauci's emails that he was involved in "Gain Of Function" research with this virus, meaning making it more dangerous to humans. Maybe, just maybe, this is the way the virus was "designed"?

    Think about it: A "vaccine" that doesn't make you immune. A "vaccine" that reduces the symptoms when you are infected, potentially making vaccinated people asymptomatic. Remember the narrative about how deadly asymptomatic people were before the vaccine came out? Now, even if you've been vaccinated, you can transmit the virus to others. Like your frail ailing grandmother, or aunt Mabel, the overweight diabetic family member. But the narrative pushed by the mainstream media, the CDC and Politicians says "THE UNVACCINATED ARE INFECTING EVERYBODY!!!!!!

    Divide and conquer. Remember Alinsky's Rules for Radicals?:

    The Rules

    1. "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."

    2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people."

    3."Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy."

    4."Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

    5."Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."

    6"A good tactic is one your people enjoy."

    7."A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."

    8. "Keep the pressure on."

    9."The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. "

    10."The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."

    11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative."

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    13."Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. "
    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

    Liberalism suspends the intellect of its victims, while at the same time tricking them into believing that they're smarter than everyone else.


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    Now that it’s starting to come out that the “variants” are breaking through the defenses of the so called vaccines the discussions I’m having with my vaccinated friends is starting to really heat up.

    I’m getting the impression that rather than face buyers remorse they’re grasping at statistics that make them feel like they made the right decision by getting the jab rather than face the possibility that they may have willingly submitted to a now pointless experiment that may not ever end. Even worse, they may be unwittingly helping to mutate and spread new variants.

    It will be interesting to see what comes next. I have no doubt that big pharma will offer up booster shots and new vaccines, but if all they do is make future variants more communicable and deadly how does that help mankind?

    Wuhan is shut down again. It’s like we’re walking in the woods without a compass and have ended up right back where we started.

    Groundhog Day, stay tuned.
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    Yeah, I have my doubts whether this is a "natural" mutation, or an intended one, if it's even a mutation (by conventional definition) at all. It was probably just another level preprogrammed or designed into the virus, who the knows.

    Frankly, I'm hearing more about this affecting a lot more people locally than I did the first go around last year, and more people being hospitalized and passing away even. So I don't know. The mainstream media benefit of the vaccine now seems to be limited to "reduces major symptoms", and thats about it, from what I have saw.

    Still got to mask up.
    Still spreading it to everyone else (maybe worse with the vaccine?)
    potentially higher viral loads with the vaccine and catching the variant in your body, might make you even more sicker, or a higher spreader (Maybe that was an intended affect...make a combination super infector out of every human with the vaccine so that the whole country would be divided physically now, as if our politics and philosophies weren't dividing amongst us enough, make a physical wedge between people that believed in taking the vaccine and those that did not... that sounds like a Sun Tzu Art of War move if there ever were...)

    I hope I'm wrong but it will not surprise me to see more lock downs in our country. Aus and others are already doing it.

    NYC has made vaccination requirements for eating in restaurants, shows, and gyms. https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...nts-gyms-shows

    Germany is considering detention centers for people wyo don't abide by their quarantine rules; https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ntion-centres/

    Amazon will pay you $10 to scan your palm; https://nypost.com/2021/08/03/amazon...UCdS7GNDisQ0-M
    One can only beat their head up against the wall so often before they get blood in their eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Camexican View Post

    I’m getting the impression that rather than face buyers remorse they’re grasping at statistics that make them feel like they made the right decision by getting the jab rather than face the possibility that they may have willingly submitted to a now pointless experiment that may not ever end. Even worse, they may be unwittingly helping to mutate and spread new variants.

    I think you hit the nail on the head El.

    This has been my thought since the negative effects (and the suppression and manipulation of that info) about the vax has started seeing the light of day, and the increase in promoting the division between the two camps (vaxxed vs. unvaxxed)
    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

    Liberalism suspends the intellect of its victims, while at the same time tricking them into believing that they're smarter than everyone else.


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    My mother spent six days in the hospital. For now all symptoms have subsided, except extreme fatigue which DR suggested will remain for months.
    CT will probably put up another mask mandate in a .matter of days
    -ers suggest fully vaccinated parents mask continually indoors to protect the unvaccinated children. Whole reason we got the jab was to lose the mask and get teachers back in school. Now it seems like until anyone over 2 gets dosed, lefties will keep all restrictions/closures in place yet Trump was the authoritarian

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledcrazyinCT View Post
    My mother spent six days in the hospital. For now all symptoms have subsided, except extreme fatigue which DR suggested will remain for months.
    CT will probably put up another mask mandate in a .matter of days
    -ers suggest fully vaccinated parents mask continually indoors to protect the unvaccinated children. Whole reason we got the jab was to lose the mask and get teachers back in school. Now it seems like until anyone over 2 gets dosed, lefties will keep all restrictions/closures in place yet Trump was the authoritarian
    I hope you mom feels better soon buddy. God bless.
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    I hope I can post this link up successfully. Please watch to the end, the Doc gives the clearest explanation of the virus shedding from vaccinated people that I’ve heard up to now.

    https://rumble.com/vk5jd0-dr.-peter-...ing-situa.html
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    You guys need new post titles


    I read last night there's a Lambda variant. Delta, gamma, Lambda...... We're just going to run through the entire Greek alphabet because this was NEVER meant to be over. This was meant to generate as much money and power grab as is humanly possible with a subservient population.






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    Personally, I'm anxiously awaiting the Karma Chameleon variant.

    Red, gold and green COVID, biches!
    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

    Liberalism suspends the intellect of its victims, while at the same time tricking them into believing that they're smarter than everyone else.


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    those of you old enough to remember Ryan White/Michael Jackson and the INSANE AIDS PANIC that was created globally by one Dr. Anthony Fauci, maybe you can pass this on to the younger generations that this isn't Faucis first exercise in inciting a very dangerous global panic that is perpetuated by the media.

    He once told people you could get AIDS from getting sneezed on or sitting on a toilet seat, kissing, touching each other. The ensuing panic caused numerous panic reactions like the ugly things that a certain town in Indiana and many of it's residents treated a young hemophiliac boy like he was Typhoid Mary.

    That's Anthony Fauci. He leaves a trail of terror, lies, and bullshit-for-profit wherever he goes.

    This is also what happens when you relinquish your national health sovereignty to a Global agency with zero accountability to anyone in the world. We do not have to legally follow any damn thing the World Health Organization says.

    Some other things to consider:

    1) supposedly, three different companies basically cranked out "vaccines" in less than six months. Supposedly, they weren't already working on these things. Remember, they swore to us that trump was lying and that Pfizer wasn't developing a vaccine at all way back in Oct. 2020

    2) CDC records that the covid survivability rate in every age group except one is over 99%. The other age group is 60+ and it's rate was 95+%. For children the rate was nearly 100% survivability. You don't need "vaccinated" for something that is this highly survivable.

    3) "unvaccinated people are getting the vaccinated people sick", merely proves the mRNA therapy is useless bullshit. If your mRNA still allowed you to get sick from exposure to covid, then you're not vaccinated at all. "So you'll have lesser symptoms" is just a panicked attempt to save face for this pharmaceutical failure by the very people who staked their entire careers on something that was shady to begin with

    4) This mRNA treatment is supposed to encode your bodies cells(they can't control which cells or for how long) to manufacture their own spike Proteins to mimic a spike protein invasion from a virtual infection. The "claim" is that your bodies immune systems will respond to this fake attack by producing lots of antibodies (generic ones because they have no idea what they are fighting other than "spike Proteins", which is the Walmart approach to inoculation...... Generic, cheap, unreliable).

    These antibodies don't just sit there and take volleys from the cells that are now producing these spike Proteins and just wait for the cells to run out of gas. These antibodies ATTACK the very entities producing these spike Proteins. Those entities would be the cells in your body, because your cells are the ones who your immune system thinks are now a foreign entity replicating virus (spike protein trick) inside of you naturally it will attack it's own parts to save the host, which is what your immune system is designed to do Your immune system is now in a fight with it's own body cells. The mRNA treatment was never meant to inoculate anyone, ever. It was meant to create a large reserve of antibodies inside your body, so that it can handle things like "covid". This is a false immunity and it's generic and it's not sustainable at all which is why you need "boosters" constantly. You'll keep going back to get more boosters $$$$ to patch up your already failing immune system that had been trained to attack it's own body. This is also why they needed "boosters" because it was evident early on that this wasn't a permanent fix at all.

    There's never been a successful coronavirus vaccine and there likely never will be. It's been at least 40 years of attempts.

    Spike Proteins are dangerous. They cause organ failure, neurological disorders, cardio-pulmonary failures. The "vaccine" does not know how to keep all those spike Proteins corralled in one area so the the T Cells can get to them BEFORE they cause all sorts of damage. In the video link Nico posted above, the esteemed doctor mentions that the second booster was originally meant to "mop up all the "extra spike Proteins" leftover from the mRNA first dose".......... So in other words, between your first and second dose of the spike protein generator instructions, your body is likely producing a huge excess of spike Proteins which are roaming freely around in your body causing havoc wherever they land. One would not feel the need to "mop up" excess anything if it wasn't a big problem in it's own right, to begin with


    If you were a "vaccine" manufacturer and you wanted a surefire way to generate an endless stream of cash for yourself and the entire medical community that you serve, you would just pick any old flu virus with no real cure, and spend the rest of your time selling constant and useless boosters to an unsuspecting and fearful public for the rest of their lives (this will never end, see "flu shots" from 1997-present). You buy up the politicians, the FDA, donate to the WHO and CDC and then you own their policymakers and those policymakers will go along with the program because it's lucrative to them to play along. Monsanto has owned the US Ag Dept for decades now and it stands to reason that Pharma owns the USDHHS/CDC/FDA using the same methods Monsanto used to usurp the best interests of the American citizen and replace them with the best interests of a group who profits handsomely from disease and sickness maintenance.

    Your Health Dept. isn't yours anymore. It's the Department of Healthcare Provider Profit Protection. This should've been evident, the second they tried to tell you that the best form of "socialized medicine" was a forced participation in a capitalist product (that would be fascism) from insurance companies who have exactly zero to offer the medical community outside of revenue creation. I don't know when Americans are going to get tired of all this bait and switch bullshit, but the time to speak up has LONG since passed.


    Just think, the NIH helped Fauci launder funds for gain of function research at a lab in Wuhan where they are "making viruses much more viral and deadly than can be normally found in nature, so that we can learn about viruses"..... Anyone who believes that excuse for developing biological weapons, is probably never going to understand reason. Our own "Health Dept" entities in the US were, supposedly unwittingly, funding the development of a bioweapon in Wuhan China that got loose and then caused mayhem all over the world, that "inadvertently" resulted in massive profit increases for all the world's top Health and Technology companies from Pfizer to Amazon. Facebook got $2BN from Johnson and Johnson to run "fact-check" interference for them online. I couldn't tell you how much they paid Twitter for the same service You don't think that's a big incentive to Facebook to push lies and misinformation? Hospitals paid for "treating covid" became incentive to these hospitals and clinics to call every patient a covid patient whether it's true or not. Money incentives are the quickest way to bring out the conmen and crooks in ANY situation and it's why this had been a favorite "solution" for American government of and by thieves and swindlers.

    Obama banned gain of function funding during his administration. Fauci used NIH money to continue this research easily, because there is no oversight of the WHO. Fauci represents the Pharmaceutical Industry and uses that position to push pharmaceutical "solutions" to people desperate to end their own assumed suffering

    The reason everyone else, Elite, is in on this crap has to do with the profitablity of the Pharmaceutical industry

    https://www.newsweek.com/big-pharma-...-study-1490407



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    China has a vaccine

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoronaVac


    Supposedly it uses real virus. Interesting that China took a more traditional approach to vaccine development for the exact same illness.

    Of course, it's been immediately attacked as "low/no efficacy" and "full of dangerous stuff" and yet many are reporting that the Chinese vaccine had the exact same vaccine injuries and death rate as the American Offerings, so they just both sound like a bad snap decision to me.

    I don't care if you want to be "inoculated". Go ahead. Your body, your right. You're not hurting me by doing so. You do not have the right to insist that I take something unproven and dangerous so that your fears are abated. Your fear is YOUR PROBLEM, not mine. The vaccinated people running around telling about how unvaxxed people are selfish and dangerous are being selfish, childish, and immature themselves. If your "vaccination" leaves you open to infection from exposure (doesn't matter where it came from) THEN YOU ARE NOT VACCINATED EFFECTIVELY OR PROPERLY and no amount of psychological projection of your responsibility for your own health choices is going to change the fact that you're mad because you were duped and you're looking for someone to be mad at ...and if you got mad at the people actually responsible for this, then these people would have to admit to themselves that they followed fools and snake oil salesmen..... For these people, though, it's just easier to blame everyone outside of your smug little political group, because being honest, this is all so intertwined with politics that it's lost any semblance of being a health crisis at all and it's being turned into a socio-political issue for political gain ("never let a good tragedy go to waste" - Some Trash politician somewhere)

    Your biggest hurdle? Social Media. It rewards the ignorant and the self-aggrandising to the point that most of this is really all about the human ego and the people pushing these things know this. It's not about what's true or effective. It's all about whatever you perceive your own social standings are as a result of riding any bandwagons or "movements" you can get yourself involved in

    "I want to be on the right side of history!".......... Belies their true motivations.

    That's hilarious because nobody in a hundred years is going to give a f*ck what "side of history" dead Grandpa was on "back in the old days"just like nobody today gives a damn what side of history any of the leftist hippies were on in the 60s just half as long ago. Nobodys child is going to take grandma down to Story Time with Trans Attention Seekers Hour at the library(which will be banned anyway. Libraries are racist) and tell all their friends how brave their grandma was to get a shot way back in 2021. There's no "Right Side of History" medals or trophies. It's a social construct just like more than two genders is a social construct. Made up. Means nothing. Changes nothing. Fixes nothing. Serves only one purpose. Serves your ego. That's the purpose. That's not social change at all.

    See Michael Rappaport lose it when he perceives that his self-assumed "hero status" and moral superiority were challenged by new revelations that vaccinated people are generating new mutated viruses that are getting people sick. He doesn't care about the people he might be getting sick, he's mad that he can't be a hero anymore and his assumption of moral superiority have given way to feelings of inadequacy and confusion for him

    I'm sure the Facebook/Twitter members have seen these people all over social media:

    1) "if it even saves one life!" altruist really means "whatever it takes for me to feel good about this online, I'm in!"

    2) the Perpetually Outraged. These blue-haired profile pic warriors are busy looking for The Next Thing to be outraged about. It's a virtue signaling tactic and nothing more. This week it's the unvaxxed. Next week it will be some new group of pariahs invented literally overnight. It's a hobby of theirs. They would have to justify all the time they spend online in their underwear showing their indignation and outrage

    3) white people desperate to prove they aren't racist. This group usually overcompensates SO HARD that they come out looking like Jim Crow had great grandkids and they all went to college to learn to be more covert racists so that they can use minority groups to advance their agendas while still clinging to their personal racism. These agendas are usually purposefully tied in together for no real reason other than to serve the ego and create more political power. The only reason I bring up the race card, is because it's been typical demonstrated that the most virilent of the pro-vaccine crowd are generally the same bunch that are already leaping onto other social bandwagon issues.

    FOMO...... Everyone with self esteem issues seems to want to be involved in a movement, any movement. This is how BLM became White Feelings Matter (WFM, if you will) within six months of the whole thing kicking off. Every weekend the protests got more and more white. The speakers where "Outraged white children" increasingly. The longer I paid attention, the less I saw actual genetic black people having any kind of voice. This movement was now all about the virtue signaling and the online praise and the cultivation of assumed moral superiority. This IS the point of their support of these issues. It's never about the issue itself, which is why no real solutions appear. It's just a social contest to see who can be more morally superior online. Most all of these people are too terrified of black folks to actually visit a black owned business in a black neighborhood and do real good for the black community that way. Instead they prefer to donate money to other white people who throw some of the money at the black community from deep inside the white community and then they post incessantly about it in social media. Charitable works are only charitable if you don't immediately get on IG posting selfies at the soup kitchen for all your friends to tell you how much they "like" this and how they "like" you and that "you are so brave and selfless" (to set up a narcissistic social media photo shoot op down at the homeless kitchen where there is real suffering in the world)

    You're up against a mob of willfully ignorant, increasingly immature people who are convinced of their own moral superiority. They have cultivated this assumption of moral superiority so much, that they are incapable of introspection, differing opinions. Social media is the only life these people have and they aren't going to give it up anytime soon because that means that they aren't activists anymore and nobody showers them with likes so that they can adore themselves in the mirror. These are the dangerous people.


    South Park had a classic episode about this very subject. It was called "Smug" and it accurately indicted the woke/outraged/moral superiority trend in America as being disingenuous ..... Because it is. It was more about the disingenuousness of the Environmental Crowd and how they used the Prius to virtue signal their moral superiority to each other and then ridicule anyone who disagrees with their quest for self-worship. They aren't cultivating a clean Earth. They are cultivating massive egos.

    The show goes on to illuminate how there things are self-fulfilling and through false social reinforcement offered by others who are also trying to reinforce their feelings of self-assuredness, so they hang out in echo chambers with one another and perpetuate the myth that everyone in their group is morally superior to anyone who is an outsider

    I digress ALOT ......HAHA.


    My point is that this isn't just media misinformation and fear and lack of reason or critical thinking, this has a very big social component as well, driving people to serve their egos using this pandemic as yet another "tic box" on the old "I feel really good about myself and my moral superiority" checklist.

    You have to get past the egomaniacs first to get any real useful assessment of this pandemic and these treatments and I don't see that happening any time soon.

    I think that if FB/Twit/Tik/Snap suddenly went offline tomorrow indefinitely, the suicide rate would skyrocket by the end of the month by our most vulnerable population groups...

    I've been extra interested in the social machinations of large groups of people and how easily they can be manipulated using their egos against them.

    I've said enough for the next year. I'll be quiet for awhile so other people can talk



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