Delta variant

[Scootertrash]

I lost an old friend last week to covid she was not vaccinated . She said she was allergic we knew she was lying .Thank you to all the ICU nurses putting in long hours to help their patience's . And if you`re risking a family members life unvaccinated shame on you

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/healt...day/index.html

Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.
"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well," Walensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death -- they prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission."
That's why the CDC changed its guidance last week and is now recommending even vaccinated people wear masks indoors again, Walensky said.


Shame on you for risking your family members lives by not acknowledging that even if you're vaccinated you can spread the virus. Are you wearing a mask every time you go out?

Was your friend healthy? Any preexisting conditions that contributed to her death? Smoker? Obesity? Diabetes? Heart issues? Lung issues?

Here's a couple "perfectly healthy" individuals who died from COVID:

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3604396...nt-dies-covid/

[Scootertrash]

No shame on you for promoting misinformation . The vaccine is not in charge of wiping your azz ! And yeah mask up get vaccinated and STFU ! How dare you quiz me do you kiss your mom with that mouth ? So only the strong should survive ? Now i`m threw acknowledging you . No more from you . Go bowling skin head . HERD IMMUNITY TAKE THE JAB SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT you bumbling idiots

Updates on the effectiveness of the vaccine from the CDC is misinformation? Pull your head out of your azz glamy. Not acknowledging the limitations of the vaccine is what will kill more people.

Only the strong will survive, that's the way nature works. Why do you think these viruses are most fatal to the weakest in society? Being strong has a direct correlation to being healthy. Smoking , eating sh!tty food, being overweight are huge factors in people being killed by this virus, just like all of the other viruses, including the flu.

Now:

Top federal health officials have told the White House to scale back a plan to offer coronavirus booster shots to the general public this month, saying that regulators need more time to collect and review all the necessary data, according to people familiar with the discussion.

Dr. Janet Woodcock, the acting commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, and Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, who heads the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warned the White House on Thursday that their agencies may be able to determine in the coming weeks whether to recommend boosters only for recipients of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine — and possibly just some of them to start.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/03/u...ter-shots.html

You can run from the truth all you want, but you can't hide from it.

The best part is watching individuals such as yourself promote trusting the fvcktards who created this mess to fix it.

[Jesus]

Gosh, I've been gone too long. I thought it was that Jesus member.,,,who incidentally owes me half a 3 wheeler yet.

Whoa! Did our guys miss a prayer?

If this is about the 87 250R, be assured that it's in the queue and will be processed as soon as divinely possible. If you're referring something else, please resubmit your request by prayer and give our team 72 hours to reply.

The Management

[El Camexican]

So this happened.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...nder-Holyfield

Not a lot of reporting going on in the English speaking media, but there's plenty being reported in Spanish outlets.

I have to assume the powers that be are still ironing out the details on how to spin this in the States. "Vaccines save boxing legend from certain death", or maybe "Experts say Oscar de la Hoya case is irrefutable proof that a third injection is needed"

Personally I prefer a play on words; "Champ knocked out after receiving two jabs to the arm"

[ironchop]

I'm going to explain this only one more time for our new member of "enlightenment", "My tri"

You either have common sense or the ability to critical think, or you don't..

Yawn

For the last time:

If you get a shot that supposed to be a vaccination and you get the disease you're vaccinated against despite this, your ARE NOT VACCINATED. there is no grey area, cupcake. Vaccines are not for "maybe"

Second:. You have zero proof that anyone vaccinated caught the covid from an unvaccinated person. You have ZERO clue how these vaccinated people caught covid. ANYONE CAN CARRY A VIRUS ON THEIR BODY AND NOT BE INFECTED. YOU CAN GET THE VIRUS FROM THE TOILET HANDLE DOWN AT THE DRUG REHAB CLINIC YOU VISIT WEEKLY. THE ENTIRE POINT OF A VACCINE IS SO THAT NOBODY CAN GIVE YOU A COVID INFECTION. I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS SO HARD TO EXPLAIN TO THE VILLAGE IDIOTS IN HERE BUT I GUESS I OVERESTIMATE THE REASONING SKILLS OF PEOPLE, YET AGAIN.

If you get a shot to protect you and it doesn't protect you, you're not vaccinated. No matter how much you virtue signal and run your "informed" mouth, YOU'RE NOT VACCINATED AFTER ALL there's no such thing as "vaccinating merely to lessen your symptoms. That's what F**KIN NyQuil is for and nobody needs to mandate NyQuil.

Let's ask Oscar De La Hoya how his symptoms were "lessened" when he folded up like good compliant citizen, trusted the news, and took the shot. 19 days in the hospital. Vaccinated? LMFAO. Maybe Joe Rogan can chime in too. He's "vaxxed" as well. My point is that there are so many high profile cases of vaxxed people who got sick anyway, that there is no excuse for people to pretend any longer that this is a viable treatment option with such evidence to the contrary right in your "informed" face. Maybe you should Google Eric Clapton too

Here's my PERSONAL FACTUAL EXPERIENCE AND NOT SOME BULLSHIT I HEARD Don Lemon bloviating about on his fake propaganda hour.

Last month I got covid. Wife did too. Survived just fine. You want to know who didn't survive? Two friends of mine and two coworkers from another plant we do biz with. Three of them were vaccinated. Both shots. Get that through your thick skull. VACCINATED . SO AS AN UNVAXXED PERSON, WE SURVIVED JUST FINE AND FOUR PEOPLE I KNOW PERSONALLY ARE DEAD. THREE ARE CONFIRMED VACCINATED, ONE HAD HIS FIRST DOSE AND WAS TWO DAYS FROM HIS SECOND

So accepting what MY my My Uninformed Opinion said about how the vaccine is only meant to lessen your symptoms, well then I guess the four people I know that are now dead of covid, would've had it much worse than just dying of covid, thanks to being vaccinated. I guess since I know more than two dozen people who are vaccinated, caught covid, or got covid and were in the hospital, I should assume, according to the Vax Cult, that they were much better off? WOW!

"Thank God Scott only died. It could've been much worse had he not been vaccinated!"

You're an idiot. My dead friends had to tell me so in a dream..... Since they are dead now and can't talk in person. The good news is that they are protected from covid in the afterlife, so your vaccine was a huge success in that respect.

"Breakthrough infections" are a term that was adopted to explain to the gullible why the vaccine is failing spectacularly. Seems to be working beautifully too.

I'm done commenting on this subject. You either get it or you can't and I can't help you if you can't understand normal thinking.

Good day. I truly hope you don't have the same experiences that my dead and hospitalized vaccinated friends had. May the Vax Be With You!

Fauci called. Pfizer and Fauci said that you now need FOUR BOOSTERS because the vaccine is working so well and possibly two pills a day for the rest of your life to "help treat covid" that you will still get after getting vaxxed so that you have lesser symptoms.

Fkn LOL!!!!!!.

Fauci promises "it's only until we flatten the curve"

[ironchop]

I changed my mind. This is actually fun for me

Hey MYMY, how many shots have you taken? You'd better say "three" or it turns out that you aren't fully vaccinated. If that's the case, it means that you are now one of the "unvaccinated people who are killing everyone". If that's the case, where's your compassion? Why are you out there in the world, unvaccinated as it turns out, and endangering everyone like you are? That's wholly irresponsible of you, as you've pointed out above. I don't understand why you can't think of the children or your grandma. Do you WANT children to die because you are out there, not fully vaccinated and endangering other people because of your selfishness?

How disgusting, you formerly vaccinated but now unvaccinated person, to be spreading your germs to all the truly vaccinated people who have three shots. You'll need to quarantine until you get another jab. It's only fair, as you pointed out above. Screw your rights, unvaxxed people have no rights and you're unvaxxed. .

See how this works? It's a conundrum for you, since they plan on moving the Goalpost every few months so that you are constantly "not vaccinated enough anymore" and then I get to shame and socially ridicule you for being one of the "unvaccinated that are killing people" just as you folks have called others

This is going to be so much fun for me. Now I understand the appeal of gaslighting people online. It works both ways! LOL

This is literally a beautiful thing for me. Fauci had created a way for you to never be vaccinated good enough so that every time you try to signal your moral superiority to others, you'll soon suffer the same ridicule. HAHAHA!! (Sucks for you, but you deserve it because you're unvaxxed as it turns out). They even mentioned "annually" so that means that during the last month of your annual booster, you can't call yourself vaccinated and you should hide from people lest you get them sick and kill them.

I hope it's annual so I can bump this thread in remembrance and ridicule, once a year

PC Culture always turns on itself when it runs out of targets, and nobody is left standing unjudged. Shouldn't have jumped on that bandwagon that is now running off a cliff with you in it

https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-defends...Qmg0nbIin_zEXl

More moving the Goalpost, soon to arrive in the US....

https://www.newsweek.com/israel-says...-doses-1622133

They call it a "vaccine" because you can't mandate a "treatment" which is exactly what you are getting injected with. They can't get people to run down and unquestionably submit to a dangerous unapproved treatment unless you tell them "it's a harmless and effective vaccine,!"

That is like serving Turd sandwiches that are quickly consumed by people who were told "it's roast beef" by a roast beef expert on the news..... Despite how much it smells, looks, and performs like a turd, people just keep eating it and insisting that they know roast beef when they see it

[ironchop]

I'm totally being a dick right now and I know it

It's because this is a serious issue. People I know personally THOUGHT they were "protected" against something they were TERRIFIED of. Now a few are dead and a bunch more are sick. I meet strangers every day who indicate they got sick after being vaxxed and they are upset.

Other people I know just wanted to do the socially responsible thing and get vaccinated to protect others. I get that too,i really do and I know people who got the jab meant well. I never doubted the good intentions behind the act WHATSOEVER. It's commendable, even. I just disagree with ours efficacy and safety both in every respect.

They have people arguing the wrong point, and for good reason.

"We don't want undocumented immigrants"
"You hate immigrants of all kinds!"

"We don't want a forced vaccine that appears questionable at the very least despite all the claims."
"You don't like vaccines or science or children or old people!"

You're getting played by the media

What angers me so much, is that I know a BUNCH of people who did get vaxxed,... Most of my family, half of my friends. I'm scared for them now. Knowing what had happened to so many people who got vaxxed, I'm scared they are going to die or get hospitalized.

Our local hospital fired over 300 medical staff last week who refused the vax over safety concerns. Medical professionals and administrative alike who doubt the narrative. People are losing jobs and being endangered over a VAC THAT DOESN'T WORK. But instead of acknowledging the vaccine was a huge corporate plot to get rich and LIE to people and give them a false sense of security that never even existed, they got the vax people blaming the unvaxxed people for the failure of the vaccine.

WTF!!!!!?????

When your Toyota craps out, you don't blame the Chevy driver next door. You rightfully blame Toyota for making a crappy car

We need to ALL realize that something really bad is happening right now and we need to fight for the lives of people and demand PHARMACEUTICAL SOLUTIONS THAT WORK AND ARE NOT BULLSHIT prequels to the real screwing they have planned for us.

"NEVER ANYWHERE IN HISTORY HAVE THE PEOPLE FORCING THINGS ONTO OTHER PEOPLE, BEEN THE GOOD GUYS."

[ironchop]

Thank you Ironchef for cooking up more of your wonderful drivel ! Can you tell us one more time why you want spew your nothing is better then something narrative or 14 more times ? Whats in this for you ?? What maybe you think vaccinated dudes dicks will fall off and you don`t want to be associated with that . It`s backward hillbilly shat . GTFO of here with that . This thing was designed to KILL you why would you fiddle fack without some kind of protection against it ? Seriously how can you support nothing as a defense against it ? So everything is a-ok with your health now except your dick fell off ? And can you tell us 37 more times why you took the skin heads bowling , take them bowling . Breakthru infections are your fault we should have been over this by now . The Gov. made a fantastic weapon of mass destruction it`s what they do best ! Probably the same stuff they used to disintegrate the twin towers ! Turns your lungs into mush ...cupcake ohhhhhh i voted for Trump ! dumfacker

You got nothing, do you?

LMFAO...... Dude it's the conundrum I told you about, unvaccinated guy.

Good ......... Embrace the dark side. I want you to be as angry as I am. I will make sure that continues to happen.

Your play, Princess Cracksalot.

I await your uninformed nonsense

[ironchop]

Thank you Ironchef for cooking up more of your wonderful drivel ! Can you tell us one more time why you want spew your nothing is better then something narrative or 14 more times ? Whats in this for you ?? What maybe you think vaccinated dudes dicks will fall off and you don`t want to be associated with that . It`s backward hillbilly shat . GTFO of here with that . This thing was designed to KILL you why would you fiddle fack without some kind of protection against it ? Seriously how can you support nothing as a defense against it ? So everything is a-ok with your health now except your dick fell off ? And can you tell us 37 more times why you took the skin heads bowling , take them bowling . Breakthru infections are your fault we should have been over this by now . The Gov. made a fantastic weapon of mass destruction it`s what they do best ! Probably the same stuff they used to disintegrate the twin towers ! Turns your lungs into mush ...cupcake ohhhhhh i voted for Trump ! dumfacker

The same people who made the weapon of mass destruction, you speak of, are the same people forcing you to take the cure. So you believe they was a conspiracy to make a bioweapon, but not a conspiracy to get rich off a bullshit cure.... From literally the same people?

MKay

Let that resonate with you for a minute.

I might need to draw you a picture. What's Trump have to do with this? This is Joe Bidens America now. Elections have consequences, fruitcake. The consequence is people are dying even more now, according to the news. You can't blame trump anymore, Biden supporter. That ship sailed in late January when Jim Crow Biden took over. This isn't a game.

It's sad when your entire narrative sputters out and dies because some internet rednecks boiled it down for you.

It's Trump's fault ��������

I think it was RUSSIA ��������

[Scootertrash]

I find it f'n amazing that even tho the "updates" about the effectiveness of the vaccine come from the same sources that originally said if you get the vaccine you'll be safe, a large contingency of idiots refuse to accept the truth.

This, boys and girls is where the saying "Liberalism is a mental disorder" came from. It's also proof positive that public education is a failure.

[Scootertrash]

'chop, I knew you'd show up eventually, and all I could think of is this clip from Second Hand Lions:

[Shep1970]

I bet if the "media" said today u should drink your neighbors piss "it'll vaccinate you" a certain percent of the population would take it as fact.
No thanks i'll pass.

shep

[knappyfeet]

I'm not educated on this matter as others here seem to be. Like a lot of Americans I was jabbed twice with the Pfizer vaccine....... my wife and my youngest son refused to take it... That's their choice although my wife might be leaning yes. My oldest son who has had the covid virus prior was required to take it through his employment (or I guess he could quit )..... and that wasent his choice.

I do know this.........having a couple of friends wives as nurses and my niece as a nurse they tell me what every other front line nurse will probably tell me and that is nearly all of the patients admitted with covid or covid related issues..... virtually all are of the unvaccinated. That may change in time but that is a fact currently.

Knowing that.....and if someone were to ask if they should get it I would probably recommend it.

[Scootertrash]

I'm not educated on this matter as others here seem to be. Like a lot of Americans I was jabbed twice with the Pfizer vaccine....... my wife and my youngest son refused to take it... That's their choice although my wife might be leaning yes. My oldest son who has had the covid virus prior was required to take it through his employment (or I guess he could quit )..... and that wasent his choice.

I do know this.........having a couple of friends wives as nurses and my niece as a nurse they tell me what every other front line nurse will probably tell me and that is nearly all of the patients admitted with covid or covid related issues..... virtually all are of the unvaccinated. That may change in time but that is a fact currently.

Knowing that.....and if someone were to ask if they should get it I would probably recommend it.

Highlighted: Pretty bold assumption on your part.


I'll repeat myself again: According to the CDC, the FDA, the vaccine manufacturers, and Fauci, et all: THE VACCINE DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM CATCHING, CARRYING, OR SPREADING THE VIRUS. VACCINATED PEOPLE CAN PASS THE VIRUS ON TO VACCINATED PEOPLE.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ugh-cases.html

Some fully vaccinated people will get sick, and some will even be hospitalized or die from COVID-19.

During the same time, CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 12,908 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died.

Total number of vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC


Deaths[Total=2,437] Hospitalized, non-fatal [Total=10,471]

Females 1,082 (44%) 5,059 (48%)

People aged ≥65 years 2,124 (87%) 7,282 (70%)

Asymptomatic or not COVID-related* 480 (21%) 2,409 (25%)

The survival rate for COVID is in the 98.4% range unless you have underlying conditions: Obesity, heart issues, lung issues. If you have issues that make you more vulnerable than others it's YOUR responsibility to protect yourself. It's also your responsibility to accept that even if you get the vaccination, you can be infected by another person who is vaccinated. Including your own family members who you live in the same house with, and if you are vaccinated and get infected you can still die.

COVID, or any SARS-based viruses are not going away, ever. Get used to it.

Straight from the CDC directors mouth:

https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/1236084540199715/

[El Camexican]

I'm not educated on this matter as others here seem to be. Like a lot of Americans I was jabbed twice with the Pfizer vaccine....... my wife and my youngest son refused to take it... That's their choice although my wife might be leaning yes. My oldest son who has had the covid virus prior was required to take it through his employment (or I guess he could quit )..... and that wasent his choice.

I do know this.........having a couple of friends wives as nurses and my niece as a nurse they tell me what every other front line nurse will probably tell me and that is nearly all of the patients admitted with covid or covid related issues..... virtually all are of the unvaccinated. That may change in time but that is a fact currently.

Knowing that.....and if someone were to ask if they should get it I would probably recommend it.

Personally I’d never try to prevent someone from getting the jab. I believe in freedom of choice and the responsibility of living up to that choice. What pisses me off is that this so called vaccine is being forced on a population desperate for this to end. To the point that an employer can fire you for not taking it.

So what happens if one day it turns out that vaccinated people are more susceptible to variants of covid, or other illnesses? Can they sue their employer? The government? The CDC? The WHO? Me thinks not. It’s more likely that people who skipped the jab and stayed healthy would have to pay for their care and compensation through taxation, yet it’s only a short matter of thin before your health plan can boot you for not taking a jab.

My body my choice? My ass, most of that crowd ran for a jab because as little as they care for a baby’s life, they think theirs is worth protecting. Now it’s my turn to hold the sign up, My body! My choice!

Anyway, if you wanted a jab I’m glad you got it and I hope it works out in the long run. I don’t want one and all I ask is that my choice is respected as much as yours.