Delta variant

[Billy Golightly]

What are you guys making of this - so far?

I'm actually personally hearing more about friends of friends / acquaintances getting this and being seriously seriously ill or passing away then I did of the "original" one so far...


Another lock down scenario seems almost imminent from what I'm seeing - few other countries have already done it.


I've heard little (none?) discussion on whether this is supposedly a "natural" mutation, or speculation its just a later version we've been the lucky benefactors of.



Fun times to live in.

[Scootertrash]

Not many cases up here yet.

I'm leery of people who claim to have the Delta variant, unless the proper test was administered. From what I've been told the "standard" quick test is not sufficient to diagnose the Delta variant since it's a mutation and would need further testing or a different test all together. The proper testing procedure to confirm a new variant is something like 7-10 days to get the test back.

I've also been given info from others more versed in these types of things that typically as a virus mutates it gets weaker, not stronger.

My evaluation of the severity of COVID patients always involves knowing the general health of the individual. Obesity, diabetes, previous lung or heart issues seem to be prevalent in the worst cases, very few healthy people get seriously ill, but it does happen.

As well, they are now talking about a new "Gamma" variant.

Considering how much this has been politicized I sometimes wonder if there are actually any new variants or if these are just resurgences of the original virus and the promotion of a "New Variant" is just another ploy to keep people scared hoping more will get the vax.

Just my opinion.


ETA: I'm not trying to turn this into a vaccine thread. We can always start a different thread for that sh!tshow

[Billy Golightly]

Haha yeah the vaccine and the connection to the variants are whole other issues...

To me the fact that people with the vaccine are still getting the variant and getting hospitalized (there was a large amount in the UK from what I was reading) also is an additional complication to the decision.

I don't know. I'm not smart or educated and informed enough to make a decision for myself either way and feel confident about it, much less for other people. I do think once you get to a certain age, the prospect of getting the bug and it being fatal vs whatever side affects there may be from the vaccine in 5 to 10 years kinda weigh out.

But anyways - yeah. Good point on the testing differences.

I know someone personally pretty closely now that has covid 3 different times. And another person has had it twice now. Each were only a few months apart from the last time. That's probably making me a little more nervous

[Shep1970]

I'm gonna say any covid variant is a scare tactic to get the vaccine at this point in time. Waiting to see what happens when pregnant women (new borns) if they are affected by this so-called vaccine.just a few more months and we'll know.
Not many people i would trust in the govt or media anytime soon.
Take care of yourselves and do what "you" think is right/ Not what someone else "thinks" is right.

shep

[sledcrazyinCT]

My mother got both Pfizer jabs and currently contracted Covid19 last week. She is 76 and they intend to give her an antibody infusion tomorrow. So far only one day of fever 100.3 but she is drained of energy and has severe muscle aches.
Lot of people met up for 4th of July, and cited as possible cause for spike in cases. Like Scooter said hopefully the variants lose potency.

[Billy Golightly]

Man, see, there is an example of someone being vaccinated and still getting sick...that sucks.

I hope your mom does well and does not have any harsh symptoms. That's been supposedly the one benefit of the vaccine if you do contract it - it's supposed to greatly reduce the affects of the symptoms.

[oldskool83]

I am waiting until the next big thing hits...I am going to make my prediction that mosquitos will carry the next version of corona. If it's real...not saying its not, people sure as heck do not care and want to live their lives now. I do not think it will ever go away. We want to live and do whatever...if you'd make a version of the virus that turns peoples arm purple then sure everyone would stay home for 90 days and eat ramen noodles.

[atc300r]

One day last week I heard on the radio that there were 11 new cases of covid in my county and 10 of them were vaccinated. I got the phizer in March only because my neurologist advised I should because I have a Cavernous Angioma on my brain along with some thinning blood vessels. He said if I get it I could suffer serious brain damage.I think the vaccines are just a plessibo.

[ironchop]

........ That's been supposedly the one benefit of the vaccine if you do contract it - it's supposed to greatly reduce the affects of the symptoms.

I've heard this alot...

Imagine if we all got vaccinated so that we only got a little bit of polio instead of alot of polio. Maybe we can be partially paralyzed which is better than fully paralyzed?.... Maybe just a few Mumps...a little bit of Measles?.... Maybe your female friends and family will only get a little bit of cervical cancer instead of alot thanks to Gardisil partially protecting them from genital warts

MRNA is a gene therapy. It's not a vaccine. There's no point in getting a vaccine that doesn't do squat to protect you and this nonsense "unvaccinated people are why the vaccinated are getting sick" has to be the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard in my life.

When you don't want your flu symptoms to be so intense, you get some OTC medicine from the drugstore. You don't submit to a completely untested "vaccine" that was whipped together in about six months (supposedly) time, especially when it's obviously politically-linked.

Spike Proteins are bad....... BAD for humans

I like how everyone forgets that the same people yelling "get vaccinated, so that we can save lives!" are the very globalists who want population control

"If it just saves one life!" (but kills thousands more)

So after these same globalists meet in Davos talking about how the Earth is "severely overpopulated" and in need of "population control", we forget that and totally believe them when they say "we must save as many lives as possible!"

We should've all called bullshit on this one long ago, but instead they had everyone running around and ignoring everything we were taught about our immune system because "you don't want to get your grandma sick, do you!?!?"

They played people's emotions. Pharma isn't interested in humanity. It's interested in profits. To think otherwise, is a fools bet.

This is all insanity to me. Suddenly "vaccines don't protect you from the unvaccinated" (how ignorant is that line of thinking?) If I get polio next week from an unvaxxed polio patient, I can assure you that I wouldn't bother with any vaccinations

Don't question the narrative! It's sound logic!

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[El Camexican]

As someone who identifies as an idiot I tend to make light of a lot of things I probably shouldn’t, but it just seems laughable to see how this Delta version is being promoted.

Every time I hear “Delta” Jan C. Gabriel’s voice pops into my head yelling “Delta, Delta,Delta” as though to get me out to the jab line instead of the drag races. (Good luck getting that voice out of your head now)

People have died and more people will die, but the promotion of this so called vaccine is even scarier. At this point I think the virus is on pace to kill almost as many civil liberties as it has healthy people and that should be far more concerning to any healthy young person than this virus.

[Arky-X]

I don't want to downplay the virus because it can make you sick.....hell-a sick......or even kill you. Hard to argue with that.

But, I don't know what to think of this Delta, Delta, Delta (thanks El). I was a good steward and got the outlawed J&J single shot that knocked me on my rear for a little over 24hrs. That evening/night of the vaccine.....WHEW!!!! Teeth chattering chills, mild fever (100F), tired. About 3 weeks later I take a trip with some friends and one of them ends up having the virus. I get home from the trip and feel tired and lose my smell but it only lasted a week. I assume the vaccine kept my symptoms mild so that's a plus......but......

Delta, Delta, Delta.....put your masks back on.
"Your original vaccine's effectiveness may wane over time and you will need a boo$ter" -- says big pharm
"Vaccines are safe! Well, except for that J&J you got."
"That J&J isn't very effective. You should get another one just to be sure."
"The unvaccinated are causing this.......oh wait, put your masks back on......vaccinated can spread it too. But it's still the non-vaxxers fault."


Everyone's tired. Too many people are ready to get back to their normally scheduled lives and just deal with the consequences.
It sucks but hearing your 80+ year old mother saying in November of 2020, "Yes, I want to have Thanksgiving with all the family because I don't know how many more of these I have left."..........that sucks too. Breaks your dam heart.

Trust the science! I get it, I deal with forecasts and data all day long and they change. You have to learn to adapt and tweak the models when things change. So when the docs and scientists (including the self-appointed ones on fB) say "trust the science" they fail to realize their smug attitudes is what turns people away. They will not admit their analysis/forecasts/projections were wrong, they say "they were right at the time."

I get it......I worked on a project years ago that resulted in spending over $10M based on our projections at that time. Several groups fought it but it went forward anyway. About 3 years ago, only part of it was completed then stopped. The projections looking out another 10-20 years changed dramatically. The groups against the project claimed victory and blasted the inaccurate projections and well, they were not wrong to criticize. But I knew the data, models, and results.....looked right at the time. That's where you suck up your pride and admit the projections did not come to fruition. That is what chaps my rear. Trust the science! But they won't admit that the numbers will change especially with such a small sample. And when they vary from their initial projections.....they were still "not wrong." That loses trust.

Pluto was a planet.....then it wasn't.

[El Camexican]

Glamy, Glamy, Glamy!

Good points Arky.

It wasn’t that long ago that we were bloodletting, zapping ourselves into sanity with electricity and everybody’s favorite, lobotomies!!!

Just look at Glamy, he likes it, he thanks it and he dislikes it. He changes his like mood like Fauci changes masks.

I’m still waiting for the FDA to approve the jab. After all, they approved OxyContin, so you know you can trust them.

I’m just kidding, we really have to trust the scientists, particularly Dr. Gates, Dr. Zuckerberg and my all time favorite, Dr. Jill cuz they know way more that the guys that invented this sh*t and are being prevented from sharing their concerns and opinions.

The more they try and shove this agenda up my arse, the more reluctant I am to spread my butt cheeks.

[Shep1970]

the wife sent me this figured i'd share-



shep


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[Billy Golightly]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/wuhan-...id-19-lab-leak

Pretty good and interesting article on the possible origins of the virus.

[Arky-X]

Glamy, Glamy, Glamy!

Just look at Glamy, he likes it, he thanks it and he dislikes it. He changes his like mood like Fauci changes masks.

Glamy didn't thank me for my post
All I ever wanted was Glamy's acceptance.