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Thread: 1983 ATC200X basket case resto-mod

  1. #46
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    Ok, I’d settle for a decent set of used lower fork legs. As a good friend of mine would say, “we’re not building a church here!”
    1979 ATC110
    1983 ATC200X
    1985 ATC70
    1986 ATC125M

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    Still waiting on the case splitter to arrive. While that is in transit I’m researching wheel options, I have decided on Douglas .190” rear wheels and I see that the early 250r’s and 200x’s had a 4x190 bolt pattern on the front wheel. I have read that the 1986/1987 200x front hub is a direct swap on the first get 200x’s. But the 86/87 front hub/wheel is the more common 4x170 front pattern! If that’s the case I can get a complete set of replacement wheels for this build! Still researching my options there. If this is true, I’ll be on the hunt for a 2nd generation 200x front hub!
    1979 ATC110
    1983 ATC200X
    1985 ATC70
    1986 ATC125M

  3. #48
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    My i ask what is a case splitter?

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    Yeah man! A case splitter is a tool that aids in separating the inner case halves of your engine. The bearings on the crank and the transmission shafts can make dividing the cases in two a real challenge. I’ve seen many techniques before, some lend themselves to the engine never running again…
    A case splitter threads into the case half bolt threads and allows a relatively uniform amount of force to be applied to one case half and the other half of the force applied to the snout of the crankshaft to literally push one case half off the crankshaft.
    Last edited by 1stGEN110; 09-06-2022 at 12:57 PM.
    1979 ATC110
    1983 ATC200X
    1985 ATC70
    1986 ATC125M

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    Learn something new everyday.

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    Minor update, I ordered a set of protaper ATV high bend 7/8” bars, Douglas rear wheels, ITP Holeshots in 20x11x8, and a Kenda front max today. Plastics should arrive tomorrow! Time to spec out material to repair the broken off subframe and get the frame ready for the engine, then I’ll work on figuring out the customs rear brake pedal set up!
    1979 ATC110
    1983 ATC200X
    1985 ATC70
    1986 ATC125M

  7. #52
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    YOU don't need 86-87 200x for the front hub. 85-86 250r and 85-86 350x is the same. Guys run the prices up too high on the 2nd gen 200x stuff. I have 87 NOS forks on 85 tripples with 85 350x front rim and hub. axle stuff is all the same. Game over. Mix and match.

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    Great to know, I agree on the pricing. I think I read that to get away with the smaller front hub there is some clear among required on the 83-85 caliper. My main goal would be to reuse my rotor, axle and forks and change the hub alone to get to a 170mm spacing so I can run a Douglas front wheel.

    My front wheel is actually in pretty good shape cosmetically speaking. I need to check the runout but otherwise I’ll likely run it for now and if I don't like how it looks after polishing I’ll pursue the later model hub/wheel. Thanks
    1979 ATC110
    1983 ATC200X
    1985 ATC70
    1986 ATC125M

  9. #54
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    83-85 200X front caliper is same as 86-87 200x which is the same as 83-84 250r. Stop reading info on here...much many guys know nothing / bad info. Ask the pros

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    Ok, great! Here’s a question for the pro! I know my stock 200X forks are 33mm diameter, my forks have some pitting between the triple clamp mounting areas. Is it a worthwhile upgrade to bore my trees to 35mm and run 83-84 250R forks on my 200X? I don’t plan to race but I’ll probably do some jumping and I weigh 200LBS ready to ride so I expect some flex in the forks either way. Thanks Oldskool83!
    1979 ATC110
    1983 ATC200X
    1985 ATC70
    1986 ATC125M

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    Unless you do the 83r rear shock mod and new dig bone no point going with a longer front end. I pointed out it will throw off rake and trail geometry. The pitting is an eyesore. Forks can be stripped and rechomed yet. I have a local company in York pa who does it yet. If not, clean them up, electrical tape the part between the tripples and cover it up. Forks race be built to your weight and riding style. Nos fork tubes are still out there yet. The more you remove 200x from the machine a resto mod is worthless in the next guys eyes. Even though you may say I'll keep forever you prob won't. Most of us don't. Run as close to stock as you can.

    I've had about 30 in last 17 years...each one I build nicer and closer to stock. My current one im still on fence about motor. 230f vs 200x. I do want to run 2nd gen 200x front fender so I'll just need to destroy a worthless set of lower tripples lol...I think if not destroy a $80 maier fender. I never liked 83-85 200x front fenders.

  12. #57
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    Perfect, I know it’ll be fine stock and you are correct in that it’ll be worth more that way.

    My wife might argue your last point, I currently own 23 bikes between the motorcycles, trikes and quads. I’m a lot better at buying than selling.

    My problem is I go and build something that I can replace so rather than sell, I just keep them and buy more. Hey… there are worse vices and investments!

    To my credit I have sold two bikes in my life, both were easily replaceable milk toast models and I have no regrets there!

    I’m with you 100% either strip and rechrome the uppers or tape em up and call it a day!
    1979 ATC110
    1983 ATC200X
    1985 ATC70
    1986 ATC125M

  13. #58
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    I use to do crazy money selling / parting toys out. I am down to 5 machines I think. They all run. Most of my builds were build from spares. Most of my parts are hand build like the chain guides I make since those are obsolete now and just plain worn out.

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    More parts arriving. I bought what I thought would be a decent quality new K&S replica switch off a TRX model bike Honda. It would incorporate all my original lighting and ignition controls plus the added benefit of electric start. Turns out the quality is sub par, the high/low beam switch was broken out of the package. On to buy a real Honda switch.
    1979 ATC110
    1983 ATC200X
    1985 ATC70
    1986 ATC125M

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    Wishful thinking…
    1979 ATC110
    1983 ATC200X
    1985 ATC70
    1986 ATC125M

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