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Thread: Hondaline Speedo gearbox on ebay NOT for 350X

  1. #1
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    Hondaline Speedo gearbox on ebay NOT for 350X

    http://offer.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/...tem=4534652356

    Hey all... I see a number of you are bidding on this. I referred to this auction in a thread in Trikesyvania and thought everyone knew what I knew, but see it's gone to a bidding frenzy!

    This gearbox is NOT for a 350X. It is a left hand drive gearbox. The seller changed the inside of the auction after I told him about it, but he must have not been able to change the title after it was bid upon.

    The outside casing on the 350X gearbox looks the same as the 200X and 81-84R gearboxes, but how do you tell them apart? Ask the seller which way the cable turns when he turns the plate towards the hub. If they turn the plate clockwise and the cable turns clockwise = Left side gearbox = 200X 81-84R (need ratio to know if 81-82 or 83-84) If you turn the plate clockwise and the cable turns counterclockwise then it would be for a 350X or a 85-86R. (it could also work for a 85-87 BR or SX ... I need to know if the casing's the same, then you'd have to look at the ratio)

    Just don't want you fellow brothers on the board here have to learn the hard way like me... I got a few of those left hand boxes thinking they were for a 350X.
    '85 ATC350X - "Showgirl" '86 OEM plastics/Fork boots, Rear Axle/Rotor/Hubs, Hondaline Fender stabalizer/extender, Speedo/Tach, Tank cover.
    '86 ATC350X - 'Go-Go Girl'
    '82 ATC250R - 'California Girl' - Progressive springs F and R, Hondaline HL Guard, Fairing and Speedometer.
    '82 ATC250R -'Snow Bunny' Ice Racer, Very Clean, Hondaline Fairing, custom FT tire, will put in the 300R motor
    '70 US90 'Ol'Girl" - Aquarius Blue... all original seat and tires. Resto project in the future
    '85 ATC250ES-'Workin' Girl' CMP Footguard, Hondaline Mudflaps, Speedo, HL Lens, Block Heater, Work Light, Foot Peg Covers and Cooler Rack
    '85 ATC70 - All Original

    '84 Yamaha 225DX - Durablue +3" axle, DR motor, New Plastics, Foot, Hand and HL Guards.
    '85 Yamahauler - Gun Rack & 'Nerf Bars'
    '85 Yamahauler - Nearly together and restored
    '83 Suzuki ALT125 - Pieces
    '89 Suzuki LT-4WD - Token Golf Cart

  2. #2
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    here's the full thread of messeges I had with the seller last week. Again, I referred to this 2x's in that 350X speedo thread Pat had in Trikeslyvania. I pm'ed "Steiger" about it as soon as I knew, cause he was the only member that had bid on it. (johndeererules)

    Goes back to the rule that basically it up to you as a buyer to do a little research and ask the right questions BEFORE you bid!

    Bruce
    thanks bruce,
    >From: Bruce Hartman <beege_mi@yahoo.com>
    >To: don enders <donenders@hotmail.com>
    >Subject: RE: Question for item #4534652356 - NOS HONDA ATC 200X 350X
    250R
    >SPEEDO/TRIP DRIVE
    >Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:00:49 -0800 (PST)
    >
    >Ok.... then it is NOT for a 350X then.... Either 200X or 81-84R. You
    >might want to change your description. I think JohnDeereRules thinks
    it's
    >for a 350X.

    >
    >don enders <donenders@hotmail.com> wrote:Bruce,if mounted to left side
    >(clutch)it will turn the cable clockwise,Don.
    >

    > >From: Bruce Hartman
    > >To: don enders
    > >Subject: RE: Question for item #4534652356 - NOS HONDA ATC 200X 350X
    250R
    > >SPEEDO/TRIP DRIVE
    > >Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:23:23 -0800 (PST)
    > >
    > >Please verify that the speedo cable turns clockwise when you turn
    the
    >face
    > >towards the hub counterclockwise. (as you look at it)
    > >
    > >Thanks...
    > >
    > >Bruce

    > >
    > >don enders wrote:
    > >yes I lost your contact info ,to return message you,, I did not find
    > >anything were I went looking,he pitched alll the stuff in the whole
    > >building!!!!!,what an idoit,all I can tell you is that it is
    opposite of
    > >the
    > >200m stuff,Don.

    > >
    > > > >From: beege_mi@yahoo.com
    > > >Reply-To: beege_mi@yahoo.com
    > > >To: donenders@hotmail.com
    > > >Subject: Question for item #4534652356 - NOS HONDA ATC 200X 350X
    250R
    > > >SPEEDO/TRIP DRIVE
    > > >Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:53:23 -0800
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >>
    >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > >
    > > >Dear kawsrule,
    > > >
    > > >Is this a right hand gear box or a left hand gearbox? Seems like I
    sent
    > > >you a bunch of info before, and didn't hear back from you.
    > > >
    > > >Honda used the same housing on the Left for the 81-84 250R and the
    >200X.
    > > >Later, they used the same housing on the Right side on the 85-98R
    and
    >the
    > > >350X (not sur eabout the 86-87 200X) To determine which side it
    goes
    >on,
    > > >turn the ring towards the hub, and see which side it would have to
    be
    >on
    > >in
    > > >order for the tire to go forward, AND the speedo cable to turn
    >CLOCKWISE!
    > > >(L and R determined as the driver sits on the trike) ((Left
    clutch...
    > >Right
    > > >throttle..))
    > > >
    > > >Thanks... I will not bid until I know for sure!
    > > >Bruce
    Last edited by 350x'inNY; 03-17-2005 at 12:28 AM.
    '85 ATC350X - "Showgirl" '86 OEM plastics/Fork boots, Rear Axle/Rotor/Hubs, Hondaline Fender stabalizer/extender, Speedo/Tach, Tank cover.
    '86 ATC350X - 'Go-Go Girl'
    '82 ATC250R - 'California Girl' - Progressive springs F and R, Hondaline HL Guard, Fairing and Speedometer.
    '82 ATC250R -'Snow Bunny' Ice Racer, Very Clean, Hondaline Fairing, custom FT tire, will put in the 300R motor
    '70 US90 'Ol'Girl" - Aquarius Blue... all original seat and tires. Resto project in the future
    '85 ATC250ES-'Workin' Girl' CMP Footguard, Hondaline Mudflaps, Speedo, HL Lens, Block Heater, Work Light, Foot Peg Covers and Cooler Rack
    '85 ATC70 - All Original

    '84 Yamaha 225DX - Durablue +3" axle, DR motor, New Plastics, Foot, Hand and HL Guards.
    '85 Yamahauler - Gun Rack & 'Nerf Bars'
    '85 Yamahauler - Nearly together and restored
    '83 Suzuki ALT125 - Pieces
    '89 Suzuki LT-4WD - Token Golf Cart

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    Speaking of ratio's, what would be the % diff if someone put a Big Red gearbox on a 250r/350x. you'd be going from a 25" tire to a 23.5". I am a math wiz, and I figgured it to be about a 6.5% diff, anyone care to double check that?
    Last edited by Maine_Triker; 03-19-2005 at 10:48 PM.

    '85 350X-The Flagship
    Speedo, Chrome HL Guard, Rubber Steps
    DG Chrome Power, 6-Pack Rack, White Bros Skidplate, 400ex Carb

    '85 250ES Big Red-Working in Style
    Many Hondaline & Aftermarket Add-ons
    '84 250R-Old School Racer Project
    Too many Accessories to List
    '82 200E Big Red-The Tractor
    Rubber Steps, Tripmeter
    '85 250SX-Rider
    Various Accessories

    '13 CBR250R & '05 CBR600F4i-Road Toys
    Yoshi Slip-Ons & Fender Eliminators

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    Your tire diameter will be decreased by 1"... so

    % change = (delta D/original D) *100%

    (1.5/25)*100% = 6% So each revolution of your 350X tire will be 6% less than a revolution of the 250 Big Red tire. So your speed will read 6% higher than what you are actually travelling.

    Oh... I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn express last night, I am actually a certified ceramic engineer and mathematics and physics teacher!

    Bruce

    PS - However, the best way to see the difference would be to actually measure the diameter of each tire, as the "size" written on the sidewalls are not exact.
    '85 ATC350X - "Showgirl" '86 OEM plastics/Fork boots, Rear Axle/Rotor/Hubs, Hondaline Fender stabalizer/extender, Speedo/Tach, Tank cover.
    '86 ATC350X - 'Go-Go Girl'
    '82 ATC250R - 'California Girl' - Progressive springs F and R, Hondaline HL Guard, Fairing and Speedometer.
    '82 ATC250R -'Snow Bunny' Ice Racer, Very Clean, Hondaline Fairing, custom FT tire, will put in the 300R motor
    '70 US90 'Ol'Girl" - Aquarius Blue... all original seat and tires. Resto project in the future
    '85 ATC250ES-'Workin' Girl' CMP Footguard, Hondaline Mudflaps, Speedo, HL Lens, Block Heater, Work Light, Foot Peg Covers and Cooler Rack
    '85 ATC70 - All Original

    '84 Yamaha 225DX - Durablue +3" axle, DR motor, New Plastics, Foot, Hand and HL Guards.
    '85 Yamahauler - Gun Rack & 'Nerf Bars'
    '85 Yamahauler - Nearly together and restored
    '83 Suzuki ALT125 - Pieces
    '89 Suzuki LT-4WD - Token Golf Cart

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