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    250r rear brake mod

    one thing my bro found out was that a newer yz front caliper will bolt on the rear of a 250r with some slight dremel work.

    plus you can use the yz rear master cly too and it is rock solid!

    here is how i made the mount for the master cly
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    80s......185 atc, Yamaha tri-moto 200, 85 200x with tons of work
    90s......89 Suzuki quad racer 250 (raced 250 A class for 6 years, late 90s.. custom framed 250x with long travel shocks and a built 350x motor.... built Honda 110
    00s...... chomeoly framed 350 RX with all the goodies (thanks to my bro)
    2012.....Replaced the 350x motor for a 444cc YZ426
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    Ok I bought a YZ400 front caliper I believe, and when I went to put it on, the disc is too large to fit between the pads? How do I fix this? I don't know if you went through this or not..
    '85 250SX - My first ever trike and my pride and joy
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    Edit... First off...what YZ caliper are you talkign about. Can you give a more specific model and years of that model which will work? Im not too up to date with quads so that would really help me... Also, what is this slight dremel work needed to get the rear caliper on? Stock 250r Mounting bracket? Is it a dual or single piston caliper?

    Nouse, use c claps to completely compress the pistons and give it another shot. If not, you may have to grind a little of the brake pad away to get it to fit.

    Mike
    1986 Tri-z
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    1985 200s
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    Ok you were right. I didn't even look, but the pistons were out almost the whole way. I pushed them back in and it fit fine, but now the mounting plate for the caliper is too thick to allow it to fit between the disc and swingarm mount or whatever it is called. I can't get the mounting plate off of the caliper.. how do I do it?
    Last edited by nouseforaname90; 03-18-2007 at 01:54 PM.
    '85 250SX - My first ever trike and my pride and joy
    **Check Out The Whole SX Project Here!!**
    '85 350X - 10:1 Piston, performance cam, '86 engline/carb
    '85 Powervalved Tri-Z - Fully modded - Soon to have a Corey Sprock 310 kit
    '85 250R - Began the modification process. This bike is going to scream! -295cc kit, Ported, Drag intake, 40mil Keihin, VForce reeds, shaved head, PT High Rev pipe, Fat Boy 2 Silencer, +4 Durablue axle, +2 swinger-

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    the Mounting plate probably has apin that slides into the caliper. Maybe heat that pin up a little bit. What is the overall condition of the caliper? Looks kind of beat/rusty? If so, its probably frozen. Just heat it up or soak that pin with PB Blaster or your Favorite penetrating oil/aersol and give it a shot. Dont be afraid to give it a good tug to get that pin/bracket out. Just be really careful when using the heat or s.

    Mike
    1986 Tri-z
    1985 250r
    1985 200s
    1985 70[/SIZE]

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    i used like a 02 or so yz 4 stroke front caliper...they are all the same,and i used the stock 250r mount and it bolts right up if you oval the 2 holes a bit...ill get some pics soon


    oh and its a twin piston caliper
    80s......185 atc, Yamaha tri-moto 200, 85 200x with tons of work
    90s......89 Suzuki quad racer 250 (raced 250 A class for 6 years, late 90s.. custom framed 250x with long travel shocks and a built 350x motor.... built Honda 110
    00s...... chomeoly framed 350 RX with all the goodies (thanks to my bro)
    2012.....Replaced the 350x motor for a 444cc YZ426
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    i'm the brother of swigin.

    i have a 98 yzf 400 front caliper on the back of my 86 trx 250r and you have to dremil out the holes more with this one. the caliper was spaced perfect i did not have to modify the yz bracket so you must have a stuck slider. i just egged out the hole and it bolted rite on.

    the 2002 yz front calipers like we used on the 350rx you do not have to do it as much. any model yz will work 125 250 2 stroke or 250 450 4 stroke they are all the same.
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    01 400ex --- with 86 trx 250r motor
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    86 atc 250r
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    Its a very nice caliper.. no rust at all and it looks almost new (with the exception of a tiny bit of dirt from use that will wash right off).. the mounting plate is just a little too thick. I'll get pics later.
    '85 250SX - My first ever trike and my pride and joy
    **Check Out The Whole SX Project Here!!**
    '85 350X - 10:1 Piston, performance cam, '86 engline/carb
    '85 Powervalved Tri-Z - Fully modded - Soon to have a Corey Sprock 310 kit
    '85 250R - Began the modification process. This bike is going to scream! -295cc kit, Ported, Drag intake, 40mil Keihin, VForce reeds, shaved head, PT High Rev pipe, Fat Boy 2 Silencer, +4 Durablue axle, +2 swinger-

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    Quote Originally Posted by nouseforaname90
    Its a very nice caliper.. no rust at all and it looks almost new (with the exception of a tiny bit of dirt from use that will wash right off).. the mounting plate is just a little too thick. I'll get pics later.
    since you have a 85 250r that mite be the problem since they have the different mounting system from 86-89 atc/trx250r's
    JASON LISKEY

    1985 atc 250r ---- finsh line axle,.fmf exhaust and rictor privateer silencer, prm grab bar.
    2008 KTM 525xc quad ----- HMF exhaust, HRE chromoly stem,
    86 trx 250r --- with after market chromoly frame and everything else done to it
    01 400ex --- with 86 trx 250r motor
    87 250x + 93 300ex both 350x powered
    2 = 86 atc 350x's
    86 atc 250r
    83 atc 185s --- from retired guy not ridden since 87
    Bandito framed 110 with 85 motor and yellow us90 fenders + tank

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    heres some caliper pics

    as you can see you dont need to slot the mounting holes much since no hole is showing under the allen bolts

    and on some you need to grind a small amount off the mount under the rubber piece thats under the word nissin
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails rear caliper 1.JPG   rear caliper 2.JPG   rear caliper 3.JPG   yz caliper.JPG  
    80s......185 atc, Yamaha tri-moto 200, 85 200x with tons of work
    90s......89 Suzuki quad racer 250 (raced 250 A class for 6 years, late 90s.. custom framed 250x with long travel shocks and a built 350x motor.... built Honda 110
    00s...... chomeoly framed 350 RX with all the goodies (thanks to my bro)
    2012.....Replaced the 350x motor for a 444cc YZ426
    WWW.HREATV.COM

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    There and by the mount hole in the front. Yours seems to be flat right there, and mine is not. I guess I'll just have to grind it down.
    Last edited by nouseforaname90; 03-18-2007 at 02:51 PM.
    '85 250SX - My first ever trike and my pride and joy
    **Check Out The Whole SX Project Here!!**
    '85 350X - 10:1 Piston, performance cam, '86 engline/carb
    '85 Powervalved Tri-Z - Fully modded - Soon to have a Corey Sprock 310 kit
    '85 250R - Began the modification process. This bike is going to scream! -295cc kit, Ported, Drag intake, 40mil Keihin, VForce reeds, shaved head, PT High Rev pipe, Fat Boy 2 Silencer, +4 Durablue axle, +2 swinger-

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWIGIN
    rubber piece thats under the word nissin

    Is Nissin Stock Calipers for what?

    There reason I ask is I have Nissin calipers on the front and back of my 350x but I have no clue what they go to?


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    nissin has bin around for decades ....so who knows
    Last edited by SWIGIN; 03-19-2007 at 07:01 PM.
    80s......185 atc, Yamaha tri-moto 200, 85 200x with tons of work
    90s......89 Suzuki quad racer 250 (raced 250 A class for 6 years, late 90s.. custom framed 250x with long travel shocks and a built 350x motor.... built Honda 110
    00s...... chomeoly framed 350 RX with all the goodies (thanks to my bro)
    2012.....Replaced the 350x motor for a 444cc YZ426
    WWW.HREATV.COM

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    just a note, if you have an 85 r, you need an 86 r rear caliper mount to make this work.

    mike
    1986 Tri-z
    1985 250r
    1985 200s
    1985 70[/SIZE]

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    The rear stainless line, is that for a 86 r or for the Yamaha application?
    OPPPS-I see you used the whole set-up sorry, can you just use the caliper without the master by chance?
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