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    Nitrous Oxide Sistem on 86R?

    Can someone here show me how to install a NITROUS OXIDE sistem on my 250R?
    I have no clue how to do it on a 2 stroke.

    1. How to power the selenoids? (I know there are 12 volts somewhere)
    2. Where to put the fogger(s) and how to do it reliably and well?
    3. It needs to be simple (it will be temporary)
    4. 10-15 h.p. Will the stock clutch live with this?
    5. Does someone have detail pics that I can take a look at?

    Can any one help me or guide me through this?

    It needs to be ready in 2 weeks. I know it will not be the fastest but it maybe the only trike at this sand drags (I have not sand dragged in 15-20 years), Search for "pics from back in the day". There will be at least 1,000 banshees and I want to spank some banshee but!!!!!!!! Just want a bit more power.

    Please help.
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    never heard of that being done... No helpful instructions but a couple things to think about. First, you're gonna need another fuel feed for the install, gotta mix fuel with the nitrous when it's injected. Probably want to put the nozzle just forward of the carburetor somewhere. Not sure how to power reliably unless you want to hide a battery on there somewhere. But you will need a pump for the fuel half of the sytem I beleive, probably needs to be under pressure to work. Not sure if it would work on your three wheeler but let us know if and how it works

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    dont use a wet, kit use a dry kit, a real kit for a atv cost around 550 (if you were to use that route use the boondockers kit not the nos) but if its only tempory i would try 1 of those ghetto nos kits on ebay there only like 20 and 20 to ship, its worth the try for that price!


    maby use 1 of those sneaky pete's car kits and adapt it, also remember with nitrous, use a decent size shot because if u use a pussy amount the hit won't b there and it won't mix rite and give you what your lookin for!
    use a colder plug and run it rich,tell us how u make out!


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    werent "Sneaky Petes" made for motorcycle use ?
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    black86, you have it backwards, you don't want a dry kit, you want a wet kit. the wet kit uses fuel and nitrous into the nozzle whereas dry only uses nitrous and is for EFI bikes that can compensate to a point with the stock injectors. if you are building a kit, you will need a nozzle, jets, line, fuel pump, NOS and fuel solenoids, relays, on/off switch and a battery. you will be running the NOS off of a precharged battery unless you have an aftermarket stator that has the beans to keep a battery charged. as far as being simple, its impossible to make it a 5 min swap to take it off or put it on. the best place to put the nozzle is directly behind the reed cage in the intake boot(between carb and reeds), you cannot run carbon reeds with NOS as the freezing effect will cause them to crack and break, use fiberglass. also you might want to run some HD clutch springs, but if your clutch kit is fairly new you should be fine, stock clutchs can handle ~45hp to the rear wheel with no problem. dont try a sneaky pete or one of those 20$ ebay kits, it will blow the reeds out of your motor, possibly cause a fire or explosion, and it will instantly bog your motor down with no power boost at all. i've seen it done.
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    I saw someone somewhere that had their electronics stowed away in a 6pack cooler... you might try that route to hide all the batteries and selenoids and then just run your lines out the bottome of the cooler.
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    A six pack rack with the battery/pump stored inside would be pretty sneaky.
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    Why is the nitrous injected before the carburetors in the airbox instead of after as in conventional Nitrous systems?

    A: After extensive testing, Rocky Young found it very difficult to get consistent results when injecting nitrous and fuel together in the conventional way (often resulting in engine damage). Then Rocky discovered that by injecting nitrous into the airbox, the engine consumed only the nitrous that was needed when it was needed, and by increasing pressure inside the carburetor float bowl at the same time, extra fuel could be delivered simultaneously. This was the only way he could produce consistent and reliable results using nitrous on a snowmobile - ventures into far off, hard to reach powder bowls could now be undertaken with confidence! Rejetting is not required, the extra fuel pump and fuel solenoid are eliminated, and the bottle heater can be eliminated (nitrous and fuel delivery both change with bottle pressure, so constant N20 pressure is not as critical). Rocky also discovered that when nitrous is sprayed from any conventional jet that is made from metal, N20 ice crystals are produced which can quickly damage an engine. Considerable time was spent researching and developing the BoonDocker Nitrous system so it will disperse nitrous evenly and consistently without creating N20 ice crystals. boondockers.com so i guess you will have 2 try 1 and find out!
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    there was a guy at the rampage in florence that had nitrous on a 250r,,, it was fassssst too,,, it was all hidden in a six pack cooler,,, sneeky did i say it was fast? it was, if you want any details i can probably round the builder of the system up,,,,

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    dirt wheels did an article a few months ago about it, run it off your lighting, jump your main jet about 3 or 4 sizes up. your nitrous jet about a 16. and set up your switch to kick in off your thumb throttle when you get WOT. Thats going to be thee easyest way to do it.

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    Checkout the 2 stroke forum on http://www.planetsand.com there are tons of guys running nitrous over there, the majority of which I've seen are wet systems injected directly into the intake AFTER the carb or even into the sides of the transfer tunnels.

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    [QUOTE=Black86tri-z;520288]hey hrc250r have you ever owned a vehicle with nitrous or drove 1? i doubt it


    wrong thing to say.... guess you havent seen any of there bikes with NO2 on them....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Golightly View Post
    Checkout the 2 stroke forum on http://www.planetsand.com there are tons of guys running nitrous over there, the majority of which I've seen are wet systems injected directly into the intake AFTER the carb or even into the sides of the transfer tunnels.

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    Defently the proper way to do it. I see alot going into the transfer's i even have a cyl. That has it set up like that.

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    Thanks for all the info guys!!!

    It will be a dry shot system. 15 horses should do it. I'll run the selenoid from the headlight plug (No headlight will be mounted). It should be OK.

    I'll be posting pics of everything.

    Thanks guys.
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    Your headlight plug will be AC voltage. You need a rectifier to convert the stock stator output to DC voltage.

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