//ArrowChat Code

Upcoming Events for the Next 120 Day(s)

Page 4 of 28 FirstFirst ... 2 3 4 5 6 14 ... LastLast
Results 46 to 60 of 406

Thread: Honda HRC 450RR

  1. #46
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Maryland
    --
    3,064
    Did you by chance think of using a heat gun to just heat the plastic up and let it droop inward some? Think this would work or not a good idea?
    And that's the rest of the story. ~ Paul Harvey

    "Yes its broken, but does that really surprise you?."
    "What happened? What does it look like happened?!?!"

  2. #47
    250rfan's Avatar
    250rfan is offline Sickest custom 450R ever. Arm chair racerJust too addicted
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    SCOTLAND - UK
    --
    474

    Hrc 450rr

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Mielke View Post
    Did you by chance think of using a heat gun to just heat the plastic up and let it droop inward some? Think this would work or not a good idea?

    This possibly could work Louis, but i had to cut out the fuel cock to give me room round about the top of the engine. If you heat up the area then push it in as you suggest some areas of the tank will end up getting very stretched it may well work, but for me i think this is the way forward - the tank has been full of fuel for 4 weeks or more and NO LEAKS.
    Last edited by 250rfan; 03-15-2008 at 10:05 AM.



    1986 ATC 70
    1985 ATC 250R - Hondaline Special
    1985 ATC 250R - Flat Track 'Privateer'
    1985 ATC 250R - HRC 450RR.
    1986 ATC 250R - HRC Flat Track.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (CT 350 PV) N/F cr500 link.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    1999 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    2016 Yamaha Laeger's Banshee YFZ 350 (DRI 350) N/F cr500 link.

  3. #48
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    United States
    --
    7,771
    this is a really enjoyable thread!! keep it up its awesome!

  4. #49
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Northwest Indiana
    --
    1,895
    Yeah, this is a very enjoyable read. This project seems to be very much under control and well thought out. I love this kind of stuff, and can't wait to see completed pics and, the ride report!!!

  5. #50
    Billy Golightly's Avatar
    Billy Golightly is offline Always finding new and exciting ways to not give a hoot in hell Catch me if you can
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Live Oak, FL
    --
    14,849
    Blog Entries
    14
    I' m very impressed with the level of fab work your doing man. Not to mention the ingenuity with things like how you decided to make the tank work. Thats the kind of stuff I dig. Awesome job, keep it up.
    One can only beat their head up against the wall so often before they get blood in their eyes.

    Note to members: Stupidity is a BANABLE offense, mods can decide if YOU are being stupid and WILL ban you!

  6. #51
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Jackson MI
    --
    1,686
    I'm Interested In that plastic welder. I modified a tecate4 tank a few years ago & nothing would work to seal It. The way plastic expands & contracts also the viberation from the engine. On a 3 wheeler If you ride It hard, you lean against the tank making It twist & bend. Please let us know how the tank holds up. I would be Interested In buying a different plastic welder. I bought mine from Snap-On & It would not hold.

    83 ATC 60-R Cr60 converted with Zinger parts.
    83 ATC 70.
    83 Tri zinger
    ATC 85-R Cr85 engine on shortened 86-R frame.
    ATC450AF
    86 310-R Drag racer
    440 snowmobile powered custom built.
    87 Cr 500 Converted to Drag racer

  7. #52
    250rfan's Avatar
    250rfan is offline Sickest custom 450R ever. Arm chair racerJust too addicted
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    SCOTLAND - UK
    --
    474
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Hall View Post
    I'm Interested In that plastic welder. I modified a tecate4 tank a few years ago & nothing would work to seal It. The way plastic expands & contracts also the viberation from the engine. On a 3 wheeler If you ride It hard, you lean against the tank making It twist & bend. Please let us know how the tank holds up. I would be Interested In buying a different plastic welder. I bought mine from Snap-On & It would not hold.
    No worries Jason - will do.

    At the moment all i can tell you is that the tank does not leak, i preped the plastic as if it were metal ie - 60deg prep on the edge and left a 2-3mm gap all the way round so the plastic could penatrate. i will keep you updated when i have completed the final build and had some decent hrs on the bike. Here is the supply company - www.urethanesupply.com, and this is the welder i bought 5600HT Mini-Weld Model 6 Airless Plastic Welder.



    1986 ATC 70
    1985 ATC 250R - Hondaline Special
    1985 ATC 250R - Flat Track 'Privateer'
    1985 ATC 250R - HRC 450RR.
    1986 ATC 250R - HRC Flat Track.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (CT 350 PV) N/F cr500 link.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    1999 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    2016 Yamaha Laeger's Banshee YFZ 350 (DRI 350) N/F cr500 link.

  8. #53
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Jackson MI
    --
    1,686
    Thats the same welder I bought. It has one adaptor end that allows you to push the plastic rod straight through It. I could never keep the supplied plastic rod from breaking away from the origional tank plastic. It would hold for a couple weeks sometimes, but then other times It would leak after a long bumpy ride. After giving up on the plastic welder I tried fiberglass. That also broke loose. I did save a link that I think Sykolincoln posted up about a plastic tank repair kit. I think I will try that on the t4, or I will build a steel tank.

    83 ATC 60-R Cr60 converted with Zinger parts.
    83 ATC 70.
    83 Tri zinger
    ATC 85-R Cr85 engine on shortened 86-R frame.
    ATC450AF
    86 310-R Drag racer
    440 snowmobile powered custom built.
    87 Cr 500 Converted to Drag racer

  9. #54
    250rfan's Avatar
    250rfan is offline Sickest custom 450R ever. Arm chair racerJust too addicted
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    SCOTLAND - UK
    --
    474
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Hall View Post
    Thats the same welder I bought. It has one adaptor end that allows you to push the plastic rod straight through It. I could never keep the supplied plastic rod from breaking away from the origional tank plastic. It would hold for a couple weeks sometimes, but then other times It would leak after a long bumpy ride. After giving up on the plastic welder I tried fiberglass. That also broke loose. I did save a link that I think Sykolincoln posted up about a plastic tank repair kit. I think I will try that on the t4, or I will build a steel tank.

    Okay Jason, only time will tell i guess, i'll keep you posted.

    As this is the first time i have done this or seen it done am quite interested to see how it stands up myself, as you have suggested my 2nd option if i could not weld the plastic tank was to get an aluminuim or steel tank made, but as this welding went okay, i've just put the aluminuim/steel tank on hold. At least i have a proper template for a steel or aluminium tank should i need it.

    Like alot of this build and others like it, it's really "Trial & Error", i have'nt seen anyone else putting a 450eR engine, rear end onto a 85/86 250r frame, so am trying to use as much of the OEM parts as possible, that way it makes it easier for the people who want to modify there 85/86 250r with easily accessable parts.

    There is some machining required on this build, but am trying to keep that to a minimum, really just a few spacers and the triples .
    Last edited by 250rfan; 11-03-2007 at 02:54 PM.



    1986 ATC 70
    1985 ATC 250R - Hondaline Special
    1985 ATC 250R - Flat Track 'Privateer'
    1985 ATC 250R - HRC 450RR.
    1986 ATC 250R - HRC Flat Track.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (CT 350 PV) N/F cr500 link.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    1999 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    2016 Yamaha Laeger's Banshee YFZ 350 (DRI 350) N/F cr500 link.

  10. #55
    250rfan's Avatar
    250rfan is offline Sickest custom 450R ever. Arm chair racerJust too addicted
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    SCOTLAND - UK
    --
    474

    Hrc 450rr

    Next issue was the exhaust, these pictures show the exhaust fitted without
    any modification, it just shows how little the geometry has changed over 22 years

    I could have left it as is, but i decided to pull the silencer forward slightly and at the same time, that pulled it in towards the frame, i simply cut a small piece out of the header pipe just at the end where the silencer slides over then re - welded it.

    You will see the finished position on latter pics, when i post the upgrade of the rear brake system from 250r to 450r.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 450R FRAME MODIFICATION 029.jpg   450R FRAME MODIFICATION 011.jpg  



    1986 ATC 70
    1985 ATC 250R - Hondaline Special
    1985 ATC 250R - Flat Track 'Privateer'
    1985 ATC 250R - HRC 450RR.
    1986 ATC 250R - HRC Flat Track.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (CT 350 PV) N/F cr500 link.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    1999 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    2016 Yamaha Laeger's Banshee YFZ 350 (DRI 350) N/F cr500 link.

  11. #56
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    North Central Ohio!!
    --
    2,712
    Quote Originally Posted by 250rfan View Post
    You will see the finished position on latter pics, when i post the upgrade of the rear brake system from 250r to 450r.
    Sorry, but I have to say that I don't agree with this. I think the 250R rear brake caliper is far better than the 450R. Any time you can run a twin piston caliper over a single piston, why wouldn't you want too?

    Other than that, this project is turning out sweet! I love the look of it already. I hope that your tank works out. Should be a hoot to ride!
    2007 YAMAHA YTZ450 went to a great home RIP Sam


  12. #57
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Grosse Tete, LA
    --
    3,439
    there are now two bikes on here that i would slay an infant for...derrick's yamaha...and your R...keep up the good work man. it's way beyond me, but i still appreciate how bad ass it is. lol.
    Feedback thread: http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/s...ad.php?t=78535

    Patiently waiting..

  13. #58
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Grosse Tete, LA
    --
    3,439
    ps...i wouldn't really slay an infant...it's a phrase from eddie izzard and dane cook.
    Feedback thread: http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/s...ad.php?t=78535

    Patiently waiting..

  14. #59
    250rfan's Avatar
    250rfan is offline Sickest custom 450R ever. Arm chair racerJust too addicted
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    SCOTLAND - UK
    --
    474

    Hrc 450rr

    Quote Originally Posted by Derrick Adams View Post
    Sorry, but I have to say that I don't agree with this. I think the 250R rear brake caliper is far better than the 450R. Any time you can run a twin piston caliper over a single piston, why wouldn't you want too?

    Other than that, this project is turning out sweet! I love the look of it already. I hope that your tank works out. Should be a hoot to ride!

    Derrick, thats a very good point, your totally correct, i never noticed the 450 rear caliper was only single piston, i'll give it a try and see how it goes.

    However, i'm trying to use as much 2006/2007 450R OEM/AFTERMARKET parts as possible, Firstly because am trying to build a bike which i think would be todays equivalent of the 86 HRC bike which Honda raced back in the 80's. Secondly - the 450r parts are more accessable than some of the 250r parts, and as you are aware newer technology is USUALLY superior to old, however, this may not be the case as far as the rear brake caliper is concerned.

    This bike will be IMHO, what i've allways wanted in a trike, and what I believe would be Honda's take on the trike if they still raced them.

    Thanks for pointing out caliper issue,

    G.
    Last edited by 250rfan; 12-13-2009 at 01:01 PM.



    1986 ATC 70
    1985 ATC 250R - Hondaline Special
    1985 ATC 250R - Flat Track 'Privateer'
    1985 ATC 250R - HRC 450RR.
    1986 ATC 250R - HRC Flat Track.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (CT 350 PV) N/F cr500 link.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    1999 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    2016 Yamaha Laeger's Banshee YFZ 350 (DRI 350) N/F cr500 link.

  15. #60
    250rfan's Avatar
    250rfan is offline Sickest custom 450R ever. Arm chair racerJust too addicted
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    SCOTLAND - UK
    --
    474

    Hrc 450rr

    Quote Originally Posted by The Goat View Post
    there are now two bikes on here that i would slay an infant for...derrick's yamaha...and your R...keep up the good work man. it's way beyond me, but i still appreciate how bad ass it is. lol.

    Thanks for the compliments,,,Eddie izzard?, is'nt he an ENGLISH CROSS DRESSER!!!!!!,



    1986 ATC 70
    1985 ATC 250R - Hondaline Special
    1985 ATC 250R - Flat Track 'Privateer'
    1985 ATC 250R - HRC 450RR.
    1986 ATC 250R - HRC Flat Track.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (CT 350 PV) N/F cr500 link.
    1998 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    1999 Honda Laegers TRX 250R (Sparks 330) N/F cr500 link.
    2016 Yamaha Laeger's Banshee YFZ 350 (DRI 350) N/F cr500 link.

//ArrowChat Integreation Code //