250r vs. banshee

**ATC70** · 10-30-2002, 11:24 PM

Does anybody know if a 250r could beat a yamaha banshee?

**Kilborg** · 10-31-2002, 12:05 AM

In a straight line, No. Neither a Trx or a Atc would outrun a banshee (though the ATC hangs right there). In woods or Mx situations, the banshee's front suspension just isnt as good(its basically a desert machine) as either of the R's. It comes down to the rider in real situations.

This is, of course, comparing stock machines.

10-31-2002, 12:21 AM

i think a 250r is able to hang with a shee in a straightaway, it really does depend on rider skill and whether you can keep the front down.....the shee is a mean machine but there is no such thig as a stock banshee

so yea..and a 250r is much lighter and doesnt have the extra wheel...i thin ktheyre equal machines...whyle the 86/87 t3 would beat a banshee fairly easily ...

**Merriman** · 10-31-2002, 02:39 AM

At Buttercup Sand dunes this weekend I killed about 10 Banshees (all had pipes and silencers, Some where extended) I did it on my 85 250R with a pipe, silencer, reeds, shaved head, and mild porting. Also killed a couple raptors, 400ex's, and Z400's...........

**ATC70** · 10-31-2002, 03:13 AM

GOOD JOB MERRIMAN AT BEATING THOSE BANSHEES!!

**250rmanfmf** · 11-01-2002, 12:54 AM

A Worked up 250R will beat a Worked up Banshee. a T3 86/87 would have equal job of beating the banshee too. But there's a reason why 250R motors are going for $1000 plus on ebay. Awsome motors.
Banshee's are overrated. My 85' R will eat a Banshee alive w/ or Without Nitro.

**Big Darn Mike C** · 11-01-2002, 05:51 AM

how worked? If you are talking thousands of dollars worked no way will a 250R beat a Banshee. With an FMF 400 powervalve cylinder kit, Fatties and fancy reeds and valves a Banshee is over 65 hp, it takes a lot of work to get that out of a 250R. But please, do not let me start another huge long argument about this.

11-01-2002, 05:05 PM

mike C is right ......I didn't kill all the banshees, there were some out there way out of my league. Some of the hill shooters were way faster than I was, I just raced the ones that were about my speed. Of course though there are 250R quads, and trikes out there with CR500 motors, 250R bottom ends with Honda Pilot cylinders(I think they are 400cc's?)
Also There are the Polanda's(Honda 250R bottom end with the Polaris 400cc + cylinder's mated to the top) All of them are definitly faster than me.

**Merriman** · 11-01-2002, 05:07 PM

Sorry forgot to log in. That Guest comment was me.

**Big Darn Mike C** · 11-01-2002, 08:10 PM

It's just the way it is, there are so many more go fast items out there for banshees that are dragracers, especially when a guy wants to spend 10grande on just the motor, because I have seen that. It's just crazy what those guys do. But whenever everything is mildly built, do everything machines, they are all in the same league for the most part. Sounds like that 250R is built pretty nice, sounds like it is fast.

**ATC crazy** · 11-01-2002, 08:55 PM

The 250R will beat the Banshee in the woods, on a tight MX track, or on a cross country circut but the Banshee would beat it in a straight line by only a couple of MPH's. The R will keep up with a Banshee pretty much everywhere considering there is a 100cc and one less cylinder of a difference.

**250rmanfmf** · 11-02-2002, 01:27 AM

Well guys, Here is what my 85' 250R has and this is why I can beat Banshees. I have over 6K into my R.

330 Big Bore
Nitroues
FMF Exhaust (Pipe/Silencer)
Boyseen Rad Valve/Reeds
Port Polishing
K & N Air Filter

Runs off Trick Fuel Only.
also has little items that gain hp. like exhaust flange etc. Its fast, Have never clocked it but its fast and has beaten some pretty bad Banshees.

I have lost to ONE Banshee and he is here in Washington with a Purple Banshee and I dont know what the hell he did but he is the only one that has beat me.

my experience

**Mike Fort Laud** · 11-02-2002, 01:58 PM

I am only out run by the baddest of the Banshees. All stock or slightly worked Banshees get smoked like cigeretts. Raptors and all that other junk gets out run also. But like anything else SPEED IS NOT CHEAP. My bike is stock bore,Jetted carb,Boysen reeds. Dg pipe. None of which are sever race mods. I think where I get them is my 14/36 sprockets. I could go put a 330 kit with 15/33 gears and be impossible to beat, But that is where the $$$$$$ comes in.

**MR ATC** · 11-02-2002, 02:52 PM

i've said it before and i'll say it again if Banshees are so much faster in top speed why did 250R's beat it at Baja repeatedly??? dont even say riders because the banshee guys were factory racers (and former honda guys that won multipul times on the 250R) and the 250R guys were priveteeers that never won before. hmmmmmmmm so much for top speed of banshees

**Big Darn Mike C** · 11-02-2002, 08:50 PM

I wonder if the reliability and fuel economy played a roll in that, do you think? Because i know that banshee's are the worst on fuel and obviously the Honda's are known for being sturdy. Racing in woods, mx sure it goes to the R. But straight line up a sand dune dragracing, if anything but a banshee rolls up to the line, you got sand in your face. If that weren't true and a 250R would smoke a shee no matter what, WHY would every dune riding and sand dragging person for the most part opt for the Banshee? Do you think they buy them knowing that they have to hidew from 250R's? No, they but them knowing that with just a little work, they can beat anything but a more built Banshee. Your guys' 250R's arefast no doubt and you probably can pick on the mild Banshee's but be happy with that because if you roll up to the line with a serious banshee thinking that youre faster, youre in for a rude awakening. Bill, just admit it, in a straight line, from the bottom of the hill to the top, you can't beat a serious Banshee on a 250R. You can throw Baja in my face and mx too, I don't care, not the drag race though because YOU WILL LOSE.

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