that forward kick setup is awesome! great work. thats one of those things many of us have day dreamed about but never went beyond that. lol hats off to ya for pulling it off. HH
that forward kick setup is awesome! great work. thats one of those things many of us have day dreamed about but never went beyond that. lol hats off to ya for pulling it off. HH
Seeing this thing has got me thinking about my 500. I almost had it together, but then it kinda ended up on the back burner. I was almost thinking of ditching it, but this post actually got the wind back in my sails. Still won't be for a little bit (got a few projects), but at least now I know I don't wanna sell it.
85 Tri-Zinger 60
85 ATC250SX
86 ATC250SX
87 ATC250SX
02 XR650L conversion
84 ATC 480R
I was worried about the mechanism holding up because of the obvious extreme pressure on it, but it does not flex, bind or feel any different than the standard rear kick thanks to the large ball bearing system it uses. I am glad that I chose the forward kicker because I did have the option of sticking to the rear kick, but when I get the cover built and a slightly modified kicker arm that matches my plastic, it should have a nice OEM look.
84 Tri Zinger 60
84 ALT 125
84 ATC 110 (blue)
85 YZ 490
85 ATC 125M
85 CR 500
85 Tri Z 250
85 Quadracer 250
86 Tri Z 250
86 ATC 350X
(2) 86 ATC 250R
86 Tecate 250
87 ATC 200X
87 ATC 250SX
(2) 87 Big Reds
88 Quadracer 500
01 CR 500 (new)
04 KX 500 (new)
06 Banshee SE (new)
07 CR 125 (new)
07 CR 250 (new)
Thats a very slick guy that did the kicker mod. One thing to think about Is the posabilty of changing the gear ratio to make the mighty 500 kick easier. Kinda like changing you sprocket size. Thats a nice build right their.
83 ATC 60-R Cr60 converted with Zinger parts.
83 ATC 70.
83 Tri zinger
ATC 85-R Cr85 engine on shortened 86-R frame.
ATC450AF
86 310-R Drag racer
440 snowmobile powered custom built.
87 Cr 500 Converted to Drag racer
The forward kickstarter is a very trick problem solver. It looks like a cover for the mechanism is a must, unless you want crud inside the bearings. Good looking build, keep us updated.
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It actually uses a sealed bearing, so no debris can damage it. The only parts that are exposed are the two gears that mesh, only a minimal amount of damage could be expected from debris on the gears (as long as nothing major was in there) and it would take a long time since they spin relatively slow and only turn a 1/4 to 1/2 revolution. A cover is definitely in the works though.
As far as changing the gear ratio of the kicker we chose to leave it a standard 1 to 1 because if I geared it to spin the motor over easier, then the motor would not turn over as quickly without increasing kickstarter speed and if you geared it the other way to spin the motor more quickly, it will become too hard to kick period! So basically the shorter kicker of the 250r does not provide the same amount of leverage as the longer bike kicker, but it is still very manageable.
84 Tri Zinger 60
84 ALT 125
84 ATC 110 (blue)
85 YZ 490
85 ATC 125M
85 CR 500
85 Tri Z 250
85 Quadracer 250
86 Tri Z 250
86 ATC 350X
(2) 86 ATC 250R
86 Tecate 250
87 ATC 200X
87 ATC 250SX
(2) 87 Big Reds
88 Quadracer 500
01 CR 500 (new)
04 KX 500 (new)
06 Banshee SE (new)
07 CR 125 (new)
07 CR 250 (new)
If you dont mind me asking, what are the gears from? are they tranny gears, and how is the one that is on the motor attached? is it welded to a stock 500 kicker knuckle?
Very creaive work/idea! I've seen alot of CR500 builds in 3 wheelers, but your the first one I've heard of tackling a custom forward kickstarter. Way to think out of the box..Hopefully it will holdup to regular riding.
4 Strokes are NOT the wave of the future!
That forward kicker is the BOMB! Very awesome! Welcome to the 500 club! lol
"Yes its broken, but does that really surprise you?."
"What happened? What does it look like happened?!?!"
Awesome build, and pure genius on the kick mechanism. I can already see that bike fully restored and pounding on unsupecting prey!!! Any yes, the oem look will be very slick! Hats off.
Nice idea on the kicker.
I think that may have solved the problem that I've had for the '83 480 CR. If you made 2, can you post some close up photos?
'85 Cagiva 200
'86 Cagiva 500
'82 ATC 480R
'83 ATC 250R DG
'83 Nicholson 185s
Owned 5 Franks, sold 4, have one left.
Wow I missed this thread ...super build!!!!!!
Wikipedia "All Terrain Vehicle" Definition excerpt
Other smaller or lesser known companies, such as Tiger ATV, Franks, and Cagiva, produced racing three wheelers, but in much smaller numbers. Few of these machines are known to exist today and are highly sought by collectors.
Check out my Tiger 3 wheeler Webpage..my quest for a TIGER MUSEUM started 2004 http://sites.google.com/site/tigerrotax/home
Rides: TIGER Factory line up, Tricky Dicks Cagiva 200, 4- Franks 3 and 4 Wheelers
awsome build but would like to see some pics of the underside of the frame!
ATC500AF
im interested in the details on the pipe, i though you had to get a custom handmade jobby for the conversion. that is an atc frame right?
Current Rides-Soon to be 85 350X, 84 200X
PastRides
86 250SX 85 Tri-Z (yellow) 85 Tri-Z (silver) 86 200x 01 Blaster 99 Blaster 85 ATC250R 86 ATC250ES 84 Tri-Zinger 60 ATC500R Project
SOON MY PRECIOUS!Originally Posted by atctim
I prefer to be called a "3 wheeled American" I find the term "Trike People" very offensive and derogatory!
Sweet! Nice job on the kicker! I need to get going on my conversion, yours is good inspiration.
1985 ATC 250R
1985 CR500R
2000 CR500R