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    Talking Pics of my atc 500r project

    I guess its because I have always ridden and been a big fan of the 2 stroke 500cc MX'ers and the fact that Honda supposedly built a couple of these things for their factory racers to test, I have always wondered what it would be like to ride an atc with a 500 in the frame rails!! The biggest hurdle in my mind was how to make it look like it was an original machine built this way from Honda, and that included keeping the stock airbox! After all, the cradle of the 250r was not exactly the best place to wedge a 500cc motor. There was one thing that I could not overcome in my mind, and that was how to get a forward kicking kickstarter on the big motor. I asked a good friend of mine Terry Underwood, who is nothing short of a genius, to build this bike for me since I did not have time to tackle the project myself not to mention I could not come up with a durable kick design for starting. (Terry has built things like a twin cylinder fourtrax 250r, an all aluminum version of the honda pilot chassis with a twin cylinder rotax motor that was featured in dirt wheels magazine in the early 90's, and also a V-8 250r!! Yes, he machined a block that houses 8 250r cylinders and uses a common crank!! so my project would be a cakewalk for him!)

    I was hesitant to show pics of the atc because it is fresh out of the shop in raw form, but I plan on a complete restoration that will ultimately make it look showroom fresh and I will be sure to post pics when it is done! The only problem is that I don't want to quit riding it!! I do have a couple of more things to do to it, including making the kick lever fit exactly in the factory fender cutout and fabricating a cover to hide the external kick mechanism. I can say that the conversion was a complete success as the bike really rides like it still has a 250cc engine, but only 2 of them! The handling, durability, and sheer power is just awesome!! The kickstarter works like a champ, and this is a 1985 500 motor that does not have the compression bleed off slot in the top of the cylinder to aid in kick effort. If I would have used a later model engine, the starting would be even easier! It is still only a 2-3 kick starting procedure which is no different than a 500 bike and yes, you can actually get the plug out of it as quick as you can a standard 250r!! Overall, I think it looks just like it would have if we could buy this from Honda. Well, maybe the kick mechanism might be integrated in the cases, but let me know what you think.






    84 Tri Zinger 60
    84 ALT 125
    84 ATC 110 (blue)
    85 YZ 490
    85 ATC 125M
    85 CR 500
    85 Tri Z 250
    85 Quadracer 250
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    86 ATC 350X
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    86 Tecate 250
    87 ATC 200X
    87 ATC 250SX
    (2) 87 Big Reds
    88 Quadracer 500
    01 CR 500 (new)
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    Fantastic, that kick assy is the cats ass!!! I want it for mine!!!!!!!!

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    very cool looks real nice

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    nice. if that front pipe mount is on a water pump bolt you will need to move it. teh vibs will break something for sure.

    the OEM look is the only way to go


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    Yes, it is and it was used for mock up purposes and it will be moved to the frame rail, but I just had to get it out of the shop to ride it!!
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    84 ALT 125
    84 ATC 110 (blue)
    85 YZ 490
    85 ATC 125M
    85 CR 500
    85 Tri Z 250
    85 Quadracer 250
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    86 ATC 350X
    (2) 86 ATC 250R
    86 Tecate 250
    87 ATC 200X
    87 ATC 250SX
    (2) 87 Big Reds
    88 Quadracer 500
    01 CR 500 (new)
    04 KX 500 (new)
    06 Banshee SE (new)
    07 CR 125 (new)
    07 CR 250 (new)


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    that kicker mechanism is rather trick, never thought about doing it that way. is that a cr500 pipe modded to fit the atc frame? how much bending or work was needed to get the pipe to fit?
    anyway awesome machine!
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    Very nice. That's a work of art for sure-
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    My hats off to you!!!!!


    I can see it finished and man is it going to be nice!!!!!!

    I was thinking about something like that kick starter mech for my GPX build.


    Could you have something made up to cover that kicker gear?

    That would be the icing on the cake.

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    Yes Edog, I am going to have a cover made that hopefully will appear to be part of the engine case, or as close as I can get to it anyway. I will do this just before pulling the motor back out to start the resto process.
    84 Tri Zinger 60
    84 ALT 125
    84 ATC 110 (blue)
    85 YZ 490
    85 ATC 125M
    85 CR 500
    85 Tri Z 250
    85 Quadracer 250
    86 Tri Z 250
    86 ATC 350X
    (2) 86 ATC 250R
    86 Tecate 250
    87 ATC 200X
    87 ATC 250SX
    (2) 87 Big Reds
    88 Quadracer 500
    01 CR 500 (new)
    04 KX 500 (new)
    06 Banshee SE (new)
    07 CR 125 (new)
    07 CR 250 (new)


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    I've always wondered how hard it'd be to build an external assembly to change the direction of the kicker...Awesome idea and implementation, very nice! Movin it to the mad scientists lair for ya.

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    Great thinking on the forward kick mechanism. Super idea! Now - how do I get you to build me a front kick mechanism for my 500?
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    Thanks Billy! Tim, I can give you the phone number of the man that can make it happen if ya like!
    84 Tri Zinger 60
    84 ALT 125
    84 ATC 110 (blue)
    85 YZ 490
    85 ATC 125M
    85 CR 500
    85 Tri Z 250
    85 Quadracer 250
    86 Tri Z 250
    86 ATC 350X
    (2) 86 ATC 250R
    86 Tecate 250
    87 ATC 200X
    87 ATC 250SX
    (2) 87 Big Reds
    88 Quadracer 500
    01 CR 500 (new)
    04 KX 500 (new)
    06 Banshee SE (new)
    07 CR 125 (new)
    07 CR 250 (new)


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    Quote Originally Posted by prohemi500 View Post
    Thanks Billy! Tim, I can give you the phone number of the man that can make it happen if ya like!
    i would like that number
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    AAAA+++++ plus build on that one my friend looks really good all of you from basket to to billy to tim to all of you have done top notch work on all of your 500 conversion man i thought it was the shi* to ride brapps 450 350X but i belive the 500R would top that hell a zilla holds nothing to that bad arse machine!! :woot:
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    I love it..... Everyone else said the rest of my thoughts, I'll add - FANTASTIC!!

    Everyone that builds a 500R is brave and creative in my book. It usually involves a flip fender for the kicker.

    Everyone wants a forward kicker but that takes a bit of time, $$ and engineering. GREAT STUFF HEMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This setup will keep just a few guys awake tonite
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