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Thread: Kxt250 Tecate 3 What Parts Fit Swap Interchange?

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    THIS RESPONSE IS OFF TOPIC REGARDING 1983-84 KX250 SHOCKS:

    A shock from a 85-86 Kx250 will work. I think 87-88 Kx250 may also be close but never tried, at some point the rezzie was no longer remote. The Kx500 shock 85-86 most likely will also work.
    Last edited by nd4speed; 11-25-2009 at 11:59 PM.
    86 T3
    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    lol Now to find one of those. I noticed there is hardly any early 80s kx parts on egay. Ever get you 1983 kx up and mobile? Am I safe to use the tecate engine in the kx?
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    THIS RESPONSE IS OFF TOPIC REGARDING 1983-84 KX250 SHOCKS:

    http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/s...ad.php?t=60994 I posted this link earlier in this thread and had you read the thread you would know what happened to that 1984 KX250.

    I got like $70 for one shock off 1986 and it was blown. I still use 1984 shock on my 1986 but I have a better one for my 1986 now. Well the shock that came off my 1984 may not have a remote rezzie so I may not even know where it came from but it works.

    This thread clearly states on page 1 that the motors swap. Did you read the rest of the thread, cause you seem to keep asking questions that have already been answered because YOU already asked them and I already answered them?

    Well i'm tired of going in circles with you.
    Last edited by nd4speed; 11-26-2009 at 12:00 AM.
    86 T3
    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    Geesh sorry. Sorry for asking questions. Don't reply if you don't want to.I did read this thread from page 1. I know there the "same" motors. But using the t3 cylinder with the kx carb and exhaust will just de tune my motor?
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    well i hoped people would continue to contribute (state) useful info (facts) to this thread that directly related to the subject outlined in the title, not ask questions like "does anybody know if this or that will fit cause it is not listed, or how will my motor perform if I put this or that on it, or would you like to check out the pictures of my project and comment"

    I eventually gave what info i could because people seemed to be tight lipped about how to find or replace parts (due to profit motives i suspect) and it was very frustrating. But, I am losing interest and will just let the rest of the community to decide the fate of this thread.
    86 T3
    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    I have found a lot of useful info in here. It would certainly be in the best interest of keeping this thread focused if those who had questions started a new thread to find answers to them if they can't be found by using the search function.
    1985 Eddie Sanders ATC330r
    1986 Monstecate
    1984 ATC70 (awaiting 125cc transplant)
    1984 ATC125M
    1986 GSXR 750 - Keepin' it old school!
    1999 Arctic Cat 500 4x4 plow machine
    1999 Arctic Cat Thundercat 1000 (lake lizard)
    1996 Arctic Cat Jag 440 L/C (ditch banger)

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    Recently I found out radiator caps are easily available at many of your local auto parts stores. I do not know much about the specifics but if you take your rad cap in most likely they will find you one. I thought one would want a 1.6 but maybe a 1.1 is needed. I heard about getting them off small Toyotas and the like. Anyway here is a little info about the subject:

    "I just spent some time researching radiator caps for an 03 KX250 and figured I would share my findings here on the forum.

    I was able to purchase a replacement cap at Advance Auto parts. Its a Stant part number 11333 or 10333 - both are the same part, just different packaging.

    I bought it for $6.89.

    The cap also fits several different cars. Here are a few examples.

    07 Lexus 470
    03 Maxda Protege with 2.0L Turbo

    This is a 16psi cap, which is the same as stock. (service manual says 13-18 psi)

    I believe the 1.1 number on the stock cap is 1.1 bar = 16.1 psi

    So the optional 1.6 bar = 23.2 psi ?? wow that sounds high. Anyone know if thats right?

    i have been buying that exact cap since ive been riding, ill never pay motorcycle prices for one of thos dam things, it works fine, just a higher pressure cap, some people get a 1.6 to help keep thier bike from loosing coolant so easy"
    Last edited by nd4speed; 11-26-2009 at 12:03 AM.
    86 T3
    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    Also some members here are making new reproduction and one off parts for Tecates
    These include:

    Intake boots for 1984-1987 KXT and 1983-1986 KX250 (1986 KX500 if straight?)
    Chain sliders 1986-87 KXT and 1983-1986 KX250
    Aluminum swingarm guard for rear brake disc and sprocket and aluminum fender supports for all years Tecate 3.
    Radiator shrouds 1986-87 KXT.
    Gas tank cover/rad shrouds by DC Plastics (warning you have to trim them so they don't interfere with triple tree movement).

    They are high quality and most likely better than oem, look for them on ebay or here.

    2012 Clarke is now making Tecate gas tanks again. Also a Dc plastics are making rad shrouds. While all the plastics are now OEM discontinued.
    Last edited by nd4speed; 07-28-2012 at 01:59 AM.
    86 T3
    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    1.0 on the cap = 1.0 bar. 1 bar = 14.5 psi, so a 1.6 cap is 23.2 psi hope this helps

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    Honda sport quad hubs ( 300ex 400ex 450 ) fit 86, and 87 T3's. All you need to do is space out some hubs so the honda hubs don't bottom out where the kawasaki splines finish.

    Picture is of an 87 T3 axle fitted with TRX450R alloy extended hubs.

    In the photos I have installed 7mm spacers/collars in between where the hub stops and the axle starts.

    courtesy of OZquad
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    Last edited by nd4speed; 03-29-2015 at 11:34 PM.
    86 T3
    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    This theory has often crossed my mind: 1986 KX250 and KX500 stators are the same, 1986 KX500 stator and flywheel can be used on all KX500s 1986-2004, Modern KX250 ignition system (stator, flywheel, cdi, secondary coil, wires) can be used on KX500, therefore modern KX250 (and kx125) can be used on KXT250.

    You will need degree wheel and dial indicator set up.

    I am not an electrical genius but I really don't think these electrical systems are complicated. You time the spark every 360 degree rotation when piston at X degrees bTDC. As pointed out, line up the 3 marks- flywheel, stator, and on case. Done.

    Building a motor and using a crappy old electrical system will cause poor performance.

    The proof is found in this discussion of swapping KX500 ignition components:
    http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index...ic,4929.0.html

    Here is an excerpt:
    1. "I used the 2001 (KX250) components, with a pro circuit ignition....The bore diameter for the flywheel is the same as the 500

    The stator does bolt up but will require it to be positioned differently than the 250 because of where the wires exit the cases and the timing marks being about 180 degrees off.

    The stator has to have a minor modification in the pickup coil area as the flywheel sits a bit deeper than the K5 flywheel, and the slots have to be lenghtened to get the right timing, and as said the wires have to be re-routed to come out the top instead of the front of the cases.

    On the Kawi it is actually quite easy to adapt, the flywheel has a mark on it, the stator has the 3 timing marks and the case has a timing mark. I think I set mine at 13 degrees btdc, (don't remember exactly, whatever the 500 was) anyway all 3 marks line up and your set."


    2. "I have tried the '96/'97 KX125 complete ignition on my 500 hillclimber."


    3. "In my k5 tecate i wanted lighting, so somewhere years back i read in one the dirtbike mags about the staff running a kx500 in a desert race using a tecate-3 stator and flywheel. Other than they had to modify the slots in the stator plate to allow correct timing indexing it was a pretty straight up deal. this stuck in my head all these years and now i find myself with a ricky stator stator setup and tec-3 cdi on the desk in front of me. Now the biggest of this so far is the fact that the tecate cdi's have been discontinued, so i had to hunt that down on ebay :S
    while pouring through my bike manual for the 500 i noticed that a few of the year use a 3-wire stator just like the tec 3 *lightbulb!* i made up a little diagram of the basic ignition circut that i have setup along with the wire colors and where they go inside the stator as well as in the rest of the harness. (which hopefully posts) now what i would like some help on is some kinda picture or good clear drawing of anyone out there with a 3 wire stator k5 like the '89 models were to compare the wire colors and relative coil connections against. i think it very possible to use a k5 cdi along with the tec-3 stator and flywheel, (which by the way ricky stator offer both the flywheels and stators as new for 125 a piece)
    Decent lighting and still retain the 500's advance curve and timing all for under 300. sounds like a good idea to me Smiley

    ohh in my little copy/paste diagram i made, my lighting coil was designed to go into a rectifier/regulator and then into a battery and those are the yellow wirres leading out of the stator."

    HERE is article on using KDX200 harness, headlight /tail light on modified KX500 stator for KX500 motor
    http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index...ic,6603.0.html
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    Last edited by nd4speed; 11-30-2009 at 09:29 PM.
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    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    Most of my oil fill caps / plugs for the clutch cover have been twisted in half. I would get an OEM one of all rubber since there is no oil splash guard in the clutch cover.

    These plugs are all the same:

    All Tecates 3 (4) and

    KAWASAKI KX 60/65 80/85 1983 - 2009

    KAWASAKI KX 125 / 250 1984 - 2004

    KX500 1986-2004

    # CR125/250/450/500 87-07
    # CRF450 02-07
    # YZ/YZF80/85125/250/426/450 ALL
    # RM65 ALL

    Or if you would like a colored anodized aluminum one many companies like Magnum make them.
    Last edited by nd4speed; 11-26-2009 at 02:20 PM.
    86 T3
    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    The clutch springs for 84-85 Tecate can be found in so many bikes it would be hard to list them all, but here is one example: KX500 1989-2004

    What is odd is the 1986 KX250 springs, same as 1987-88 KX500 or GT550 1983-2001 or ZR550 1991-99 (also many more)

    Clutch Spring(SK) Vesrah No. SK-407
    Q'ty Maker Model Year Code Name Year Categoly
    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KX250 D2 86 Dirt

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KXT250 A2 Tecate 85 ATV

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KXT250 B1,B2 Tecate 86-87 ATV

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KZ550 A1,A2 80-81 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KZ550 A3,A4 Sports 550 82-83 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KZ550 C1,C2,C3,C4 LTD Series 80-83 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KZ550 D1 GPZ 550 81 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KZ550 F1 Spectre 550 83 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KZ550 F2 LTD Shaft 84 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KZ550 H1,H2 GPZ 550 82-83 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KZ550 M1 LTD 83 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI Z550 G6 89 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI ZR550 B1,B2,B3, Zephyr 550 90-93 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI ZX550 A1,A2,A3 GPZ Series 84-86 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI KL600 A1 KLR 600 84 Dirt

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI ZX600 A1,A2,A3 Ninja 600R 85-87 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI ZX600 B1 Ninja 600RX 87 Street

    5 Pcs KAWASAKI ZX600 C1,C2,C3,C4,C5,C6,C7,C8,C9,C10 Ninja 600R 88-97 Street



    1984 KXT250 clutch kit same as:
    KDX 250 B2/B3 82-83
    Z 250 A1-A3/B1-B2 79-81
    ER 250 B1-B3 ʻScorpionʼ 83-88
    GPZ 305 A1/B2-B10 83-96
    KX 500 A1/A2 83-84


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    Clutch fiber friction plates for 1984/85 KXT250:
    Kawasaki Clutches
    Application Part # Description / Notes
    KDX-250 250CC (1980-81) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (6)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (5)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-05058
    Clutch Kits:
    KDX-250 250CC (1982-84) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (7)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-047006 (6)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-05058
    Clutch Kits:
    KDX-250 250CC (1991-94) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (8)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-063006 (7)
    Spring Kits: 501-44-06002
    Clutch Kits:
    KX-250 250CC (1974-76) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (5)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (4)
    Spring Kits: 501-24-06057
    Clutch Kits:
    KX-250 250CC (1978-79) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (5)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (4)
    Spring Kits: 501-24-06057
    Clutch Kits:
    KX-250 250CC (1980-81) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (6)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (5)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-06058
    Clutch Kits:
    KX-250 250CC (1982-84) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (7)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-047006 (6)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-05058
    Clutch Kits:
    KX-250 250CC (1987-90) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (8)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-059006 (7)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-06058
    Clutch Kits: *303-45-10011_**303-45-20011 *Complete Kevlar Kit **Complete Carbon Fiber Kit
    KX-250 250CC (1991) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (8)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-063006 (7)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-06058
    Clutch Kits:
    KXF-250, Tecate 4 250CC (1987-88) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (8)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-059006 (7)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-06058
    Clutch Kits:
    KXT-250, Tecate 250CC (1984-85) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (7)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-047006 (6)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-05058
    Clutch Kits:
    KEF-300, Lakota 300 300CC (1995-03) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (5)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (4)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-04058
    Clutch Kits:
    KLF-300, Bayou 300 300CC (1986-04) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (5)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (4)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-04058
    Clutch Kits:
    KLF-300, Bayou 4X4 300CC (1989-05) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (5)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (4)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-04058
    Clutch Kits:
    EX-305 , B1-GP 305CC (1983) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (7)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (6)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-05058
    Clutch Kits:
    KZ-305, LTD 305CC (1981-88) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (7)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (6)
    Spring Kits: 501-45-05050
    Clutch Kits:
    KDX-400 400CC (1979-80) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (6)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (5)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-05058
    Clutch Kits:
    KLF-400, Bayou 400 4X4 400CC (1993-99) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (6)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-063006 (5)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-04058
    Clutch Kits:
    KDX-420 420CC (1981) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (6)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (5)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-06058
    Clutch Kits:
    KX-420 420CC (1980-81) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (6)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (5)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-06058
    Clutch Kits:
    KDX-450 450CC (1982) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (6)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-078006 (5)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-06058
    Clutch Kits:
    KX-500 500CC (1983-84) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (7)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-047006 (6)
    Spring Kits: 501-57-05007
    Clutch Kits:
    KX-500 500CC (1987-04) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10016 (8)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-059006 (7)
    Spring Kits: 501-50-06055
    Clutch Kits: *303-45-10011_**303-45-20011 *Complete Kevlar Kit **Complete Carbon Fiber Kit



    1986 KXT250 Fiber friction plates:
    Kawasaki Clutches
    Application Part # Description / Notes
    KX-250 250CC (1985) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10006 (8)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-047006 (7)
    Spring Kits: 501-40-05058
    Clutch Kits:
    KX-250 250CC (1986) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10006 (8)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-047006 (7)
    Spring Kits: 501-50-05055
    Clutch Kits:
    KXT-250, Tecate 250CC (1986-88) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10006 (8)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-047006 (7)
    Spring Kits: 501-50-05055
    Clutch Kits:
    KX-500 500CC (1985-86) Friction Plates (Qty.): 301-45-10006 (8)
    Steel Plates (Qty.): 401-45-047006 (7)
    Spring Kits: 501-57-05007
    Clutch Kits:
    Last edited by nd4speed; 11-26-2009 at 03:39 AM.
    86 T3
    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    For 1986 T3 i have:

    Fork seals 41x53x10.5

    Suspension linkage bearing, seal, collar same as swingarm pivot
    Swingarm bearings TA2030 also found in:
    Mojave
    T4
    KEF300 Lakota
    KX250 86-91
    KX500 83-04


    Axle bearings 40x68x15 (same as LT250R) with carrier seals as:
    Kaw part 92049-1237 used in the following-

    Model Fitment
    This part is used in multiple assemblies:

    * » Kawasaki KFX 250 Mojave (KSF250-A18) 2004
    * » Kawasaki Lakota 300 (KEF300-A1) 1995
    * » Kawasaki Lakota 300 (KEF300-A2) 1996
    * » Kawasaki Lakota 300 (KEF300-A3) 1997
    * » Kawasaki Lakota 300 (KEF300-A4) 1998
    * » Kawasaki Lakota 300 (KEF300-A5) 1999
    * » Kawasaki Lakota 300 (KEF300-A6) 2000
    * » Kawasaki Lakota Sport (KEF300-B1) 2001
    * » Kawasaki Lakota Sport (KEF300-B2) 2002
    * » Kawasaki Lakota Sport (KEF300-B3) 2003
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A1) 1987
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A10) 1996
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A11) 1997
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A12) 1998
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A13) 1999
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A14) 2000

    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A15) 2001
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A16) 2002
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A17) 2003
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A2) 1988
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A3) 1989
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A4) 1990
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A5) 1991
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A6) 1992
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A7) 1993
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A8) 1994
    * » Kawasaki Mojave 250 (KSF250-A9) 1995
    * » Kawasaki Tecate (KXT250-B1) 1986
    * » Kawasaki Tecate (KXT250-B2) 1987
    * » Kawasaki Tecate 4 (KXF250-A1) 1987
    * » Kawasaki Tecate 4 (KXF250-A2) 1988
    Last edited by nd4speed; 02-05-2010 at 07:03 PM.
    86 T3
    84 T3
    86 KX250

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    I had a friend in high school that had a KX500 with the Tecate lighting coil and a single large light. It worked like a charm. I think he had Ricky Stator set it up if I am remembering correctly.

    Rides:
    1986 ATC250R (sectional pipe and Klemm Research silencer)
    1986 ATC250R (Desert Bike, WAX-ON seat, Dual Cibie lights, Steering Stabilizer)
    1979 ATC110 (Bandito frame and forks, Turbo wheels, disc braked)
    1982 ATC70 (Lifan manual 125)
    1987 LT80 (piped, widened)


    My feedback thread
    http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...ack-for-dcreel

    RIP Trace.. Godspeed.

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