It lives... BWAHAHA

[MagicJames]

1) Ok well, my camera broke...

2) My R is now running .... kind of ... Smokes pretty good, and missing a rear shock

3) I went to change out the shock rezzy lines and they didnt fit.... So i'm screwed for now, must go to the shop tomorrow and see what i can do

4) It hurts when it kicks back now, but usually starts on the first kick...

Yay Team!

[MagicJames]

Leaking oil out of exhaust flange like usual though.... really starting to get frustrated about that

Break in sucks.

[MagicJames]

So, im going to try to do that with the head, ive got another gasket, but i think it leaks from the exhaust flange, not where the flange meets the head, thats why im stumped.

So my R is still smoking like a European whore after sex.
Maybe 50:1 is too rich for it ?? I shouldn't have that oil residue all over and it shouldn't smoke that bad, never has before... i <3 Bel-Ray MC-1.... don't make me change!

[mohadib]

whats the plug look like? what size jet are you using? Air filter is nice and clean?

[MagicJames]

Plug was all fouled out because it ran for 40 minutes never being in gear.
170 main
Air Filter is nice and clean =D

[mohadib]

try moving the clip to a leaner setting, id also get some smaller jets and do some plug chops. Hmm I would say ride the bike and lets find where/if its breaking up. Maybe once your shock is done :D

[MagicJames]

Yeah im just trying to break it in, I still have to put a different pipe on it, and change the gearing .... again

[Saul]

whoa whoa whoa - slow down a little.

1. Is this a 'new' bike to you?

2. Did this bike just start smoking like this? Have you run the bike before, if so - how much smoke?

3. What 'changes' have you made to the bike? jet's, carb or pipe?

4. Was the engine recently taken apart and put back together?

5. Not a question - 50:1 is NOT too rich. At all.

6. 170 main seems big - I or nobody else for that matter certainly can't jet your bike over the internet but, again, a lightly modded R with a 170 seems big.

7. Here are just a few possible reasons it is smoking heavily - very rich pilot, wrong needle (not clip setting but needle itself) , expansion chamber or silencer is full of oil ooze, and worst of all - crank seals could be shot allowing tranny oil to get into the system.

Geez, good luck with it. I'm certain you can get it fixed with help from people here.

[MagicJames]

whoa whoa whoa - slow down a little.

1. Is this a 'new' bike to you?

2. Did this bike just start smoking like this? Have you run the bike before, if so - how much smoke?

3. What 'changes' have you made to the bike? jet's, carb or pipe?

4. Was the engine recently taken apart and put back together?

5. Not a question - 50:1 is NOT too rich. At all.

6. 170 main seems big - I or nobody else for that matter certainly can't jet your bike over the internet but, again, a lightly modded R with a 170 seems big.

7. Here are just a few possible reasons it is smoking heavily - very rich pilot, wrong needle (not clip setting but needle itself) , expansion chamber or silencer is full of oil ooze, and worst of all - crank seals could be shot allowing tranny oil to get into the system.

Geez, good luck with it. I'm certain you can get it fixed with help from people here.

1) No, I just had the top end re-done and ported.
2) No its never smoked this bad before, when wide open, its smoking like crazy!
3) Currently has a PT hi-rev going to a PT-5 pipe, 38pwk, timing advance +2, recently ported and polished, head cut .040
4) Yes put back together yesterday
5) I dont think so either, considering i've ran 50:1 the whole time i've owned it.
6) I Don't feel its that lightly modded, and yes i know i need to jet it down, but i can't find my jets and I still have a different pipe that needs to be installed.
7) Motor was all re-done last year, so hopefully crank seals arent shot, pipe might be full of ooze, I don't know how to eliminate this (Other than changing pipe), but hopefully i will repack my silencer tomorrow.

I will tear everything apart and start jetting passes tomorrow, after i get some smaller jets and more spark plugs.

[boosted96cobra]

I wouldn't worry about the smoke until you ride it, just sitting and revving not going to tell you anything.

I also wouldn't run 50:1 during break in, at least 32:1 if not richer.

I also don't like running for 40 minutes without load as a break in. Sure I dunno much about 2 strokes, but normal 4 strokes like load and vacuum to break in, running for 40 minutes without is bad news.

I always idle it once for a minute or so to make sure my pilot jet is close. Then I idle till it's hot and kill it and re tq the jug and head nuts. After it cools then it's ride and jet time. Easy at first not alot of rpm, lotsa laod and lotsa vacuum.

This is just my opinion though...good luck.

[Dammit!]

I run a 178 with a similar setup and where you live I would have to run it richer than I do here. A 170 might actually be too lean. Nobody can tell you that for sure over the internet though. You either have to learn to do it yourself or take it to someone you trust and have them do it.

Boosted96cobra is right. Do not run it without a load during break in. Sure as hell not for 40 minutes. Trying to tune it like this is a complete waste of time.

My R smokes quite a bit when it's cold or hasn't run in a while but barely smokes at all when out riding.

Get an o-ringed billet exhaust flange off ebay. No more exhaust leak. Ever.

[boosted96cobra]

I'm going on ebay looking for that flange right now! Thanx

[Dammit!]

Never seen one for a tecate. They're usually on there for water pumper R's though. If not, ESR sells them.

[MagicJames]

I have an o ringed flange, and it was leaking, i did not see that there was supposed to be an o-ring on the inside too. I just put RTV in there and i hope it seals up, otherwise i'll take it apart again and get the right size o ring and then put the regular gasket back in there.

I was going by CT's break in procedure.
I let it run for 3-5 minutes until it was warm then shut it off and let it cool completely.
Did that 5 times and then rode it lightly for another 5-8 and let it cool and did it again.
Then i got on it a little harder, then called it a day.
Tomorrow putting the pipe on, and getting some jets and getting my shock figured out, hopefully. I have no backup at this point!

[boosted96cobra]

Never seen one for a tecate. They're usually on there for water pumper R's though. If not, ESR sells them.

Sorry to highjack!

The pipe slips into the jug on a tecate, it just has 2 rubber o-rings.

But I do also own a 250r:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll292/sagep11/250rinthesand.jpg

[Saul]

Crap - when talking about his main jet I kinda forgot this wasn't the fooler forum and went into 'fooler mode' for a second - haha. Looking at his mods this morning and seeing it's a water pumper - yeah, that 170 doesn't look so big after all.

Sorry bout that MagicJames (this is exactly the reason why you don't just take one persons advice online - always get that second, third, 4th and 100th opinion! lol)

Good luck figuring it all out.

[MagicJames]

Wait, is there supposed to be an o ring on the inside of an o ring flange? And if so. What size?