86R Case Saver Mounts

[mohadib]

Hello,
Just picked up the 86r I had mentioned in a few other threads. Its pretty cool. :beer
I'd post up some pics but I dont have the cord for my phone.

The only bad thing I have seen so far is it doesnt have a case saver, and the threaded mounts for the screws that hold the case saver are busted off. Anything I can do to get a case saver on this trike? The good news is I dont see any cracks or welds on the case.

Thanks,
Jason

[mohadib]

So no tips from any of you guys?

[beets442]

You could build welds on there, grind drill and tap? Can you tell where to center those mounts or casesaver to match holes?.. Do you have vids on youtube for ATV carb rebuilds? Saw some with your same name. Beets

[mohadib]

Yep, those are my vids. I could do them so much better now, know a lot more :D

some pics of what im working with:

http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/resource/images/imageEntryId/6097

http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/resource/images/imageEntryId/6099

So I should try to fill the holes with metal and extend them and retap? Is that the only good option? I currently dont have a case saver for an 86. Looking for one on ebay, unless one of you guys want to sell me one.

Thanks,
Jason

[fabiodriven]

I would say it's possible to do what Beets said with the welder, but I wouldn't hold my breath. My 500 had the same issue, although it was worse. I just said skrew it and got another case.

[mohadib]

Hmm, I dont really feel like buy/waiting for a new case. THen splitting and replacing. I'm thinking of trying to take this thing back and get my money. You guys got any opinons on this?

Thanks,
Jason

[fabiodriven]

The way I look at it, depending on what you paid for it, it seems silly to return it over something like that. That's just me though. Like I said, if it were mine I would get another case. These machines are getting older and older and the chances are pretty good that it may be worn out internally anyways. I would use it as an oppertunity to tear it all down, replace all the bearings and seals, and inspect and rebuild the top end if neccisary. Then you know what you have and there is no guesswork involved with what's going on inside your engine. That's just me though.

[Dammit!]

You'll find most 250R's have that problem. Taking it back because of it would be pointless. They get broken like that because people are morons and don't maintain their machines. They run the chains way too loose, run worn out sprockets, worn out bearings, then they wonder why the chain comes off.

Is it possible the chain could come off even on a properly maintained and setup bike? Yeah but it's also very unlikely. 1 to 1.5 inches of slack in the chain WITH THE RIDER ON THE BIKE is all the slack you need. Make sure you have good bearings, good sprockets and a quality chain, tighten it properly and don't worry about it.

[Thorpe]

I would grind it back, have some nice tig welds put down, do a build up, get fancy with the 2" grinder, drill and retap... I have more time, than I do money...

[mohadib]

You'll find most 250R's have that problem. Taking it back because of it would be pointless. They get broken like that because people are morons and don't maintain their machines. They run the chains way too loose, run worn out sprockets, worn out bearings, then they wonder why the chain comes off.

Is it possible the chain could come off even on a properly maintained and setup bike? Yeah but it's also very unlikely. 1 to 1.5 inches of slack in the chain WITH THE RIDER ON THE BIKE is all the slack you need. Make sure you have good bearings, good sprockets and a quality chain, tighten it properly and don't worry about it.


so are you saying dont use a case saver and just make sure my sprockets and chain are good and the chain is tight?

Jason

[Dammit!]

I'm saying it would be ok to do that, yeah. The odds of you throwing a chain when everything is exactly as it should be are slim. I've seen chains destroy the case even when a case saver was present so it's not even guaranteed to protect it completely.

[fabiodriven]

I'm saying it would be ok to do that, yeah. The odds of you throwing a chain when everything is exactly as it should be are slim. I've seen chains destroy the case even when a case saver was present so it's not even guaranteed to protect it completely.

Y'know, that's a good point. It's not absolutely neccisary to run a case saver. You keep up on your maintinence and the chain should never hop.