one of my big reds was stolen :(... RECOVERD :(.. update

[stoney420]

someone went in my garage on smithridge road in bridgeport newyork and stole my 1983 honda big red 200e that was in great shape :cry: , they also tried to steal my 1984 honda big red 200es but it ran out of gas or broke down or something and was found sitting in the field next to my house, the 83 is nowhere to be found! i just got done filing a police report so they are on the lookout as well, but if anyone sees this big red pleaseee let me know asap!!

[Dirtcrasher]

Sorry Stoney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

Fkng Thieves !!

[MDFMac]

im not right next to you but im in ny and ill keep my eyes open

[thefox]

That sucks!

I will keep my eyes open for it. Maybe I will go unload the dirtbike from the truck instead of leaving it for the night. I was thinking about this last week when I left the 350x in the truck for 2 nights.

[stoney420]

thanks i appreciate you guys keeping your eyes open, yes fox, cant leave anything outside these days, or even INside without a lock for that matter!:mad:
edit: by the way, it doesnt have the winch on it anymore but the gun rack was still on it and it looks the same besides the winch.

[MonroeMike]

That sucks. Do you have the VIN written down?

[stoney420]

yes, i have the registration as i bought it from the original owner...gave the vin to the trooper and it is now in their database..
well i just went out and recoverd the 84 from the field, whoever the scumbag was they sure as hell dont know how to ride one AT ALL, it wasnt out of gas or anything, started right up, the wheeler was in 5th gear and the kill switch was off(i always leave the switch on and use the key) im not sure what this means tho but it was sitting as soon as u walk through the tree line into the field so i think they pushed it over there and couldnt get it started (somehow turned the kill switch off not knowing it or thought off meant run?) and switched through the gears hoping it would help? or maybe they did get it running but it wouldnt move in 5th gear ofcourse so they turned it off using the kill switch and left it?? the key was turned to on but i dont think it was all the way over to ON so maybe thats why it wouldnt start and they played with the killswitch and gears hoping it would help? i dont know, it confuses me, but either way there clueless about atvs so that tells me it was probably some punk little kids. anyway i sure hope to see my 83 home soon but im afraid its highly unlikely :(

[MonroeMike]

That's good.

[jeffatc250r]

Keep an eye on C-L and Ebay.

[stoney420]

Keep an eye on C-L and Ebay.

yea trust me i will be, and our local classifieds "the swap sheet"... already put a couple ads on CL looking for it...

[K87_250ES]

Sorry to hear that...Hopefully it will tun up.

[tanks350x]

That stinks man, sorry to hear... I know if my X got robbed, I'd pretty much, cry

[killerklown]

Sorry to hear that man... NO trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro RESPECT!!!

[greythorn3]

they should stold somones new quads cause quads are stupid.. man hope you find it! NY has allot of crime i see on tv anyhow. cable lock that other one.

[thefox]

There were some sleds and parts stolen last winter, I heard the punks that did that were caught but maybe it is connected???

I'm going to go pick up some chains and locks today.

[stoney420]

would u happen to remember any more info on it andrew? maybe there names or where it happend etc? ill be buying some chains and locks today as well...

[lndy650]

my sled was stolen last winter by a 17 or 18 year old punk. the cops didnt do much its a long story but me and my girlfriend ended up finding the kid with my aftermarket parts on his sled. 6 months later i got his sled 700 bucks and my sled that was chopped into pieces. i won a lot of races with that sled its just not the same racing his chassis.
it is very very frusterating but dont give up look everywhere. i drove around every day for 2 weeks. im in upstate ny and will keep an eye out!!
BEFORE and AFTER

[atcrider1]

my sled was stolen last winter by a 17 or 18 year old punk. the cops didnt do much its a long story but me and my girlfriend ended up finding the kid with my aftermarket parts on his sled. 6 months later i got his sled 700 bucks and my sled that was chopped into pieces. i won a lot of races with that sled its just not the same racing his chassis.
it is very very frusterating but dont give up look everywhere. i drove around every day for 2 weeks. im in upstate ny and will keep an eye out!!
BEFORE and AFTER

i would have beat the piss outta them if i found my sled like that

[stoney420]

hope i dont find my big red looking like that but im sure at the very minimum, its being beat to hell right now as i type this :(
im gonna go scouting be back later..

[lndy650]

trust me hes got it coming....ima very patient person, on the bright side if it is young kids they will ride it and be seen and they cant keep thier mouths shut so hopefully someone will have a ear in the right place.

[lndy650]

i think this should be made a sticky thread so as many people as possible see it...

[trikebandits]

Maybe your big red sitting in the field was pointed in the direction they took the other one.Maybe they took it for a joy ride and left it out somewhere.
Hope you get it back!

[aldochina]

sucks man, i love my 83, will keep my eyes peeled this neck of the woods.

[bigred44]

That really sucks man. I just seen your ad on craigslist for it. I will keep my eye open around Ithaca area and let my buddy's know about it also. Good luck.

[shortline10]

I feel real bad for ya . This happened to me back in the 80s with my 84 200x but I did get it back . After I got it back I always chained it up just so I could sleep a little better . This is an old school Warning decal I use on my trikes . I hope you get it back .:)

[stoney420]

well i found the path they took it, so now i know they didnt drive down the road, theres only one trail going from my house to the main trail (powerline trail) and it was posted off a while back so has not been used at all, well i didnt see any tracks at first but kept riding and came across some knobby tire tracks (which mine were knobbys) so i kept going and got to the muddy area and there they were KNOBBY 3 WHEELER TRACKS!!!(im the only one on this road with a 3 wheeler) so after following them a little ways i came to a big mudhole where they got stuck and couldnt keep going straight, foot tracks all over from them trying to get it out, i can see where they went off the trail right there since they couldnt keep going straight but it is hard to tell where it went from there since its all thick woods down trees etc etc i had to turn around cause my 85 i was riding has a big hole in the front tire that i plugged until i put a new one on it and was getting too flat to keep going but rest assured im going back out there to try and see where the trail goes, anyway i came home and went to look in the yard at my cousins house (a likely suspect) who i havent talked to in 3 or 4 years since he broke in my house, i didnt see anything but i did see one of his neighbors outside so i stopped to see if he has seen a 3 wheeler over there, he must not get along with them either and wants nothing to do with them, said he wasnt trying to be rude but would not get involved, the only thing he would tell me is that "he seen a red 3 wheeler and a red 4 wheeler on a trailer over there a few days ago, and cops are there all the time" and i even had to pry that out of him!!! and yesterday i had my mother call my aunt (his mom) who is just as crooked thats where he got it from and she said she hasnt seen a 3 wheeler but would keep her eyes open, take pics if she seen it etc etc which is very UNlike her since we dont get along...she would never try to help me out so i was kinda iffy when she said that, and now i find out his neighbor seen one over there!!! so im almost positive im on the right track here but finding it is going to be the problem :( waiting on the trooper to call me back so i can give him the update info, hopefully we can go get there footprints from that mud and what the neighbor said should help but since he wasnt willing to help me im not sure he would make a statement for the trooper or anything :( anyway im off to see what i can come up with... wish me luck...

[STONEY67]

Damn dude... that sucks man... but you shouldn't have said anything to your Aunt cause she will give him the heads up now... then your bike might really go missing... hope you bust his punk ass mang!!

[stoney420]

i was thinking the same stoney, but she already knew, the trooper went there immediately after leaving here yesterday and told her he was looking for a missing 3wheeler from smithridge road...she let him look in the garage etc but obviously it was no where in plain site...the cop told her he was just checking the neighborhood but she knew better, after he left she called here, knowing it was me, and asked if we sent the cops over there...so thats how that came about..

[ditchmud]

Keep diggin bro, I hope that you find it!

[stoney420]

thanks for the all the kind words guys.... now i just gotta sit here and do nothing about it while i wait 3 hours for the damn cops to call me back so i can give them the updated info.. called about an hour ago and talked to dispatch, she said she would call the trooper who was here yesterday and have him call me, havent heard from him yet, just called again hoping to talk her and see if she contacted him and when he should be calling but was some how put straight through to a different trooper who was on a call, said he'd call back around 5, which is about another hour from now, i dont want to go anywhere and miss their call so now im stuck sitting here, doing nothing about it, waiting. i realize there busy people but DAMMIT i want my wheeler back!! lol, but ofcourse i wasnt rude or pushy with them cause i need their help... so im just waiting....

[stoney420]

wow, unbeleiveable i just got another lead!!! this kid Nick Russell who hangs out with my cousin, has a trailer sitting in his yard with a red 4 wheeler on it, when the cop called back(was a different cop then the first one) i told him about this and about the neighbor seeing a red 3 wheeler and red 4 wheeler in my cousins driveway on a trailer, and he said HE ACTUALLY PULLED OVER NICK RUSSELL ON TUESDAY AND HE WAS HAULING A RED 3 WHEELER AND RED 4 WHEELER ON A TRAILER !!!!!!!! he is now on his way to russells house!!! i cant beleive this cop actually seen him hauling the trailer that was in my cousins yard!!!! thats my best evidence so far!!! man, i should have became an investigator!!!! ofcourse the cop knows russell had one so whats he going to say when the cop wants to see it again??? its gone??? im sure that wont be acceptable to the officer....

[ditchmud]

:Bounce :Bounce :Bounce :Bounce Let's hear some more good news!

[stoney420]

wish i had some for you ditchmud, but i dont :( just heard back from the trooper, noone was home at the russells residence, but he did see a 3 wheeler there, so he looked at it and said it didnt match the description i gave him, which was, 83 honda big red, red in color, front and rear racks, gun rack on rear rack which may not be there anymore and told him how the rims were once painted red then were painted over again gray/silver and therefore had red showing through the silver, which you can see clearly, (pics page 1), he said the rims was the main thing he looked at but they did not look as decribed or look freshly painted. and he said he beleives this is the one he seen on the trailer :(.. i was so sure that the one on the trailer would be mine.....anyway he stopped and talked to one of russells neighbors and they said they have seen another one over there, a bigger one (im not sure what size the one he seen was) and is coming over at 10:30 tomorrow morning to get pictures of mine, etc etc..so all is not lost yet, but not looking as good as it was... :( ...on a side note... ANYONE IN THIS AREA, LOCK, DOUBLE LOCK, TRIPLE LOCK YOUR TOYS!!!! HE SAID THEY HAVE HAD NUMEROUS(MORE THEN A FEW) ATV'S ATC'S DIRTBIKES AND SNOWMOBILES COME UP MISSING VERY RECENTLY FROM THIS AREA!!!!! a dirtbike, and a 3wheeler from 2 different houses on black creek road, a 4 wheeler and sled on chestnut ridge, a couple others and now mine on smith ridge come up stolen very recently. all these roads are within a 3 mile radius of me!!!! he alsosaid one guy on black creek road woke up to some noise one night last week and seen a couple people loading up his 4 wheeler in their "large pickup truck" just as he was about to run out the door a car was coming down the road so the people left the wheeler in the middle of the road, jumped in the truck and took off!!! so LOCK UP YOUR TOYS, DOUBLE LOCK THEM, TRIPLE LOCK THEM IF YOU HAVE TO!!! well im off to go have some very much needed drinks, will update again in the morning after the cop comes over..

[thefox]

I don't know the who was busted for taking the sleds, I will ask my neighbor tomorrow, he knew who it was. I also talked to a friend today, his grandma lives on your road so they are keeping a look out for it.

[stoney420]

thanks fox, much appreciated...
just sitting here waiting for the cops to call again......
was supposed to be at my house at 10:30 this morning, called them at 12:30 and he said he was tied up at the office would call back and come out in half hour... its now 3:00 and still no word from them... gotta love the new york state troopers!!! :w00t:
and then they wonder why people just take matters into their own hands :wondering ..

[bigboy_toy85]

that sucks man, last year so kid tried to steal mine, i kept hearing it rev up then shut off. so i ran outside. he saw me and took agross the yard. I jumped on the three wheeler, "turned the Gas on" and fired up and chased him down. it was alot of fun.

[daniel_250r]

^^best thing i've heard all day lol, i think i am going to start to lock mine up when the motors back in. it sits in a locked barn tho

[ditchmud]

Any news??

[stoney420]

well.. it got down to the point the cops said "we'll let you know if we hear anything" :crazy: and they werent trying very hard to find it from what i can tell buttt we have been widely spreading the word locally and have found an excellent lead which was discoverd today, i cant give any details just in case he happens to be on here, but will touch base again tomorrow. wish me luckkkkk

[daniel_250r]

good luck man

[RudeDog666]

Best of luck! Hopefully you stumble upon a garage full of stolen toys. Then everyone's happy and the stealer/s go in for a few years time.

I had a pickup stolen from me once and they caught the 3 guys 2 years later. Turns out they were going around taking "For Sale" vehicles for "test drives" and getting keys made. They would then wait for one week, if the vehicle wasn't sold they would wait till the owners weren't home and drive off with the vehicle. Some they stripped and sold the parts and some they beat the crap out of (mine for instance). The troopers found about a dozen vehicles.

I ended up getting restitution and the original "for sale" price of the vehicle.

Another thing to watch out for... If you're selling a vehicle know who's taking it for that test drive.

Again, best of luck and hope your trike is not too badly beaten.

[stoney420]

well....... i got the big red back!!.......completely un recognizable :cry: :cry: :mad: :mad: :mad:
completely spray bombed black :(
just like i thought in the first place it was my little trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro F*CKING COUSIN!!!!
the plan didnt work out as we had hoped, we had a guy that was going to buy it for $100 and catch him with it in the act, instead we went out on there property and seen it/recoverd it since the cops wouldnt go through with the buy idea :( .
we dont really have any solid concrete evidence linking him to it besides it was in the woods on their property, a couple neighbors did see him riding it while it was red, then again while it was black, the guy that was going to buy it didnt really want to get involved, i just hope he will fill out a statement... ill know how solid the case is on friday when the cop takes everyones statements, and gets all the evidence together.... i just hope they can nail this f^cker to the wall and get me some restitution money to get a new wheeler, there no way this can be restored to the condition it was without all brand new parts :( :(

[MonroeMike]

Glad to hear you got it back.

[Mosh]

well....... i got the big red back!!.......completely un recognizable :cry: :cry: :mad: :mad: :mad:
completely spray bombed black :(
just like i thought in the first place it was my little trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro F*CKING COUSIN!!!!
the plan didnt work out as we had hoped, we had a guy that was going to buy it for $100 and catch him with it in the act, instead we went out on there property and seen it/recoverd it since the cops wouldnt go through with the buy idea :( .
we dont really have any solid concrete evidence linking him to it besides it was in the woods on their property, a couple neighbors did see him riding it while it was red, then again while it was black, the guy that was going to buy it didnt really want to get involved, i just hope he will fill out a statement... ill know how solid the case is on friday when the cop takes everyones statements, and gets all the evidence together.... i just hope they can nail this f^cker to the wall and get me some restitution money to get a new wheeler, there no way this can be restored to the condition it was without all brand new parts :( :(
A rag soaked in gas will wipe most of the paint and overspray off.
Try it, you will be surprised.
Good to hear you got it back at least.

[stoney420]

thanks mosh ill give that a try on the plastic, rims etc.
any suggestions for the tank and other parts that were paint or powdercoated w/e honda used on it.. gas will take off the red as well wouldnt it? i cant just paint over it without sanding it for days non stop since the paint has huge runs in it, looks like they held the can about 2 inches away when painting it, its on there THICK.....

[stoney420]

im totally bumbed out :( id rather just get rid of it and get a new one even tho its only worth about $200 now :( since no matter what i do unless i put over $1,000 into it its still going to look like total sh!t and i dont wanna be reminded every time i see it =/... ill post some pics of my new black beauty :eek: when i get it home, probably tomorrow..

[oldtime3wheeler]

Glad to here you got it back. Im sorry to hear of its shape though.

[greythorn3]

i think your overreacting, i think you can clean it up pretty good. your lucky to have it back and not had it set on fire or parted out.. i would be happy, and then give you cousin a proper beat down.

[ditchmud]

Glad you got it back, too bad about what he did to it. I'd tell you what I'd do to your cousin if I was you, but I don't wanna be a bad influence on anyone:lol: We need to start cutting the hands off of thieves like they do elsewhere:welcome: Sounds barbaric but I cant stand a thief and I'm tired of my tax dollars being wasted on slapping scum like this on the wrist so they can go steal more. I better stop ranting now before some lawyer get's on here and tells me how it is:rolleyes:

[Dirtcrasher]

I'd be just as angry as you..............

Try some acetone and other types of thinners on a place that doesn't matter so much before you go nuts. Powerwashing may help in the beginning.

Sorry for the loss, I get nervous about young kids hanging out at my home too but I do work for them and it's tough to avoid.

People SUK!

Good luck bud........

EDIT - I'm with Ditchmud - cut a thieves hands off or EVEN just a finger and they'll be done. Touch your wife and off with the weiner, again - all done.....

We are FAR too easy on people. You don't need guns and knives but a dam good beating does WONDERS!!

[greythorn3]

we are hard on the people that work hard for a living and easy on the scumbags here in america, and it needs to stop.

[bigboy_toy85]

Sorry to hear about the shape it's in, but I'm glad you got it back. It should be fairly easy to get the paint off, since they probly didn't sand or primer it, a power washer should blow it right off. Good luck on getting the black beauty back to a bigred.

Ps: I'm all in for bringing back the death sentence even for theives. I think the old nouse does the job. Just saying. It would be cheaper than us having to pay for them to stay in jail, or be slapped on the wrist and still again!

[daniel_250r]

beat the living sh*t out of him thats what i would do if i were in your position cut off a few of his fingers so he remembers what he did

[Dirtcrasher]

I'll add one more thing after I read the "lack of primer words"

I don't know WTF it is!!........ But if I prep parts perfect, primer them, scuff them, clean them - they last eeh, ok I gues......
'
But wouldn't you know that each and everything I had within 5' of that spray cans overspray, that it was nearly impossible to remove :lol:

Explain that! :D

Sorry about the thieves again!!

[stoney420]

id love to put him in the hospital/graveyard ofcourse. but im not going to get serious charges pressed on me because of this little thief. but mark my words "he DOES have it coming to him, payback is a motherf*ucker". just need to do it without landing myself in jail.
if it were up to me and i didnt have to worry about cops - he would already be in the bottom of onieda lake...

[daniel_250r]

all you have to do is catch them in the act then you can beat them

[bigboy_toy85]

Remember, what goes around, comes back around. So he has basically screwed himself on that one. I know that for sure.

So don't do anything to him. It will all catch up with him oneday. He will end up stealing from the wrong person, and he will get the crap knocked out of him. So hopefully you get your bigred back to good health.

Ps: I thought I was editing and adding this onto my old post. If it's a problem I'll copy it and paste it onto my old post, sorry.

[greythorn3]

Once you go black you never go back! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[stoney420]

So don't do anything to him. It will all catch up with him oneday. He will end up stealing from the wrong person, and he will get the crap knocked out of him.
he has already stole from the wrong person.
i wont just let it go.
but im smarter than he is.
just a matter of time, im a patient guy.

[factoryX]

first of all how old is he? and if any family member of mine had touched a wheeler of mine they would either be in jail or I would be the one in jail...lol

[stoney420]

hes 20. and i refuse to end up in jail over this little pipsqueek.
also, if this or anything like this ever happens to anyone, do not rely on the cops, you need to follow your gut if u have an idea who it is and do some investigating yourself, especially if its the new york state troopers, they treat it like its just a normal job and your making them do work, your only hope with the cops is to pray you find one who rides or is truly sympathetic and truly wants to try to help but good luck finding one like that. the 2 officers i dealt with could care less wether it was found or not, 1 of them actually did try to help a little, only because he was concerned that so many have come up missing. but i dont recommend dealing with the new york state troopers around here, if i ever have a problem again, ill be calling our local sherriffs instead. i know they can only do so much, i completely understand the process's they have to go through, but i pay close attention to detail, and they honestly could have cared less. if u happen to live in the area, trooper rodman is the guy to avoid if you can help it.

[factoryX]

pssh, then he is old enough to take the punishment.

[tanks350x]

Glad to hear you got ot back stoney. I would try to use anything I could think of to get that black off of there....Believe it or not, try using oven cleaner on it,,,, it works really good for geting scuffs from being in accidents off of paint.. Just an idea

[atc500x]

Maybe Acetone?

[daniel_250r]

i would put big tires on it snorkel it out exhaust and intake and use it as a mud/swamper trike you won't even notice the black when its under water or covered in mud

[peejicky]

Stoney ...glad to hear that you recovered the big red. You might try a graffitti remover like that used in the pressure washing industry. If he used cheap paint it just might work. I've seen posts on pressure cleaning forums that show them removing paint from cars with the stuff. Good luck with whatever you try.

[Pafrig]

i always yank one of the wires coming from the pulse geneorator. usaly theives arent smart enough too look there. too bad about the black. it will eventualy peel off.

[stoney420]

Stoney ...glad to hear that you recovered the big red. You might try a graffitti remover like that used in the pressure washing industry. If he used cheap paint it just might work. I've seen posts on pressure cleaning forums that show them removing paint from cars with the stuff. Good luck with whatever you try.

thanks peejicky, if its a real pain to get off i may just have to make it into a smaller version of your awesome looking 250es.....

[whipit]

don't use acetone, it will kill all the paint, factory paint included. Spray paint can be removed with gas on a rag, if that is not working use carb cleaner on a rag. make sure you get pictures of the machine in its sad state BEFORE you clean it up, these will be very useful in court. make sure you get all the police paperwork and then go file in small claims court...

[harryredtrike]

ill agree with every one else.that fresh paint should come off.im sure it was not prepped,just bombed.hope you can get it back to decent.i hate thieves.

[rdlsz24]

Damn he went through all that to try and make $100 selling it? What a pos

Rob

[brapp]

well fyi file for restitution and tryan dget him to have to py for new plastics and new gastank that stuff cant be cheap trough honda. and then just clean it up the best you can after you make soem coin off the douchbag

[saladboy]

did the kid say "i would have gotton away with it if wer't for some pesky kids and there dog?"Sorry i had to say it.I'm glad you got it back, i know how it feels it happen to a minibike and my pick-up.

[stoney420]

thanks brapp i was planning on going for restitution, but didnt think about going through honda! great idea, that will be very expensive :)
what are the parts i should try to make him pay for?
front fender, rear fenders, gas tank, headlight, maybe new rims? cost of whatever paint stripper is used, cost of labor for a shop to clean the rest of it up? any reason i wouldnt be able to get these? the only thing is, like an idiot i told the trooper i paid $600 for the wheeler, so im sure thats the most ill be able to get..i want to get as much out of him as possible and as many charges as possible, the cop said he probably couldnt be charged with burgalary since the garage is a "portable garage" and doesnt have a permanent foundation, so it will prolly be larseny instead, will try to get trespassing as well, and the property he took off with it at and left the other trike is posted so i think my neighbor should be able to get him for trespassing as well. any other ideas? i dont know the legal terms off the top of my head, but shouldnt i also be able to sue him for the stress etc that he has put me through? i know theres a word for it, just cant remember.. anyone know? any other ideas?

[stoney420]

Damn he went through all that to try and make $100 selling it? What a pos

Rob

yes, rob, you would be surprised what some people will do to get high......
im going to pick up the bike now, and take it to our local honda dealer and get an estimate on what it will cost to bring it back to original..

[JasonB]

kill him!!

[STONEY67]

good trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro Stoney... make sure he gets wats coming!!

LOL...I see we can't say trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro!! LMAO

[killerklown]

Glad you got it back for sure... Bad news is NADA bluebook in EXCELLENT condition is only $400, and they will never give you excellent value. Sounds like the kind of guy who wouldn't have $400 to give you anyhow... Hope it works out for you though

[stoney420]

i know nada says it aint worth nothin and the court will prolly go by that but i hope they dont :(, im hoping i can find a couple selling for high dollar to give them examples, etc.
i just got back from the honda dealer and for new rear fenders, new front fender, mud flaps, gas tank, headlight case, and fork boots, which was all i could think of that would have to be replaced right off the top of my head came to a whopping $1151.08, thats without any labor replacing parts, stripping paint off the parts that arent replaced, etc. i didnt get an official quote on the actual job since he would have had to charge me an hours labor ($68) for an official quote. i told him i would wait until the kid is actually arrested before going that route. im sure the court wont go by this and ill prolly get the measely $400 that nada quotes, but i sure hope not. anyone seen any high dollar big reds selling lately that i could use as reference, or anyone want to put an ad on Craigslist "selling" their big red for high dollar $$? :D

[ditchmud]

yes, rob, you would be surprised what some people will do to get high......


That's kind of funny coming from a guy who's screen name is stoney420:lol: :banned:

[Lukeatc185]

did you say your little cousin stole it?

[Lukeatc185]

does he not have parents? if so ask them to beat him lol. i would beat my kids ass red if they steal.

[stoney420]

does he not have parents? if so ask them to beat him lol. i would beat my kids ass red if they steal.

yes, i did say my cousin stole it, and yes he does live with his mom BUT she is just as bad as he is, and thats where he learned it from. straight scumbags.

[Lukeatc185]

i would losen the wheel nuts then.. cut the brakes. and invite him over for a ride.
tell him your putting the bullshit aside and you wana start fresh. no hard feelings.. then you can laugh while the ambulance is on the way.

[Gearheadtom]

I hate thieves (yes I know it has been said before). A camp by the camp my parents are building was broken into. The generator was stolen from it's locked enclosure outside, canned food and the manual for the generator were stolen from the inside of the camp.

Good to hear that you got your trike back!

[stoney420]

well heres the link to the pics of my poor big black :(
the before pics are on page 1.. :(
http://s270.photobucket.com/albums/jj106/tshack420/

[greythorn3]

heck that looks prety nice! wouldnt take much to turn it into a camo paint job either.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5580/bigred011.jpg (http://img180.imageshack.us/i/bigred011.jpg/)

[Lukeatc185]

look at the bright side... it now matches your truck lol

[pipeline triker]

Goof off works great at removing spray paint, it is for removing graffitti painted on signs and stuff. I think Walmart sells it. I would take him to small claims court. Get a signed and verifeid estimate from the Honda dealer, also do up an estimate with after market parts plus labor to return it to its former glory. The court will usually split the differance, or give 3/4 the price of the Honda stuff. Also take lots of pics before you clean it or fix anything on it. Bring pics of it before and pics how you got it back to court. I am sure you would win in small claims court and the loser would have to pay all court costs. Also get noterized letters from friends stating condition before and after. Glad you got it back..

[y2kane]

Dude, that "kid" cousin of yours should have to pay to return it to original condition. I would go to the next town and hire someone to go kick his a**. If the punk had a car it would for certain need all new windows and lights. Prove I did it and I would have a damn good witnesses to where I was at when this happened. Hey I will vouch for you! You were with me all night here in Ohio when all the kids lights got busted out... At least you got it back. To bad it is painted black.

[Bryan Raffa]

look at the bright side... it now matches your truck lol

:lol: you guys....:lol: glad ya got it back.. get your self a few cans of original Oven Cleaner..(lemon Sent):lol: and let it sit for a wile .. the key is dont let it dry out on the plastic .. have a hose ready to wet it down. a stiff bristle plastic brush works great to get it going!

or get a few cans a gloss black and touch up both the truck and wheeler:D

[ilmoakw]

he has already stole from the wrong person.
i wont just let it go.
but im smarter than he is.
just a matter of time, im a patient guy.

Revenge is a dish best served cold....

[stoney420]

look at the bright side... it now matches your truck lol

you have no idea how many time i have heard that now, lol, it looks like sh!t just like the truck now too!!

thanks for the advice pipeline, i think i will deffinetally be winning in small claims court, i cant see any reason why not, the only thing im wondering about is how much ill end up gettin from this ordeal, i want to nail his azz to the wall if possible .. just waiting till tomorrow when the trooper gets all the info, statements, warrant, etc then goes and arrests the little thief.. dont know why he needed to wait 3 days to do it, but its all supposed to happen tomorrow....
any advice i can get how to go about getting as much as possible is very much appreciated i sure hope i dont get 400 which is prolly about what it books for, ...things i have been doing are..
1..got a quote from honda for replacement parts, 1200 worth, and thats only fenders/mudflaps, tank, forkboots, headlight case, so its not like i went nuts.. thats not to mention labor for changing the parts, and stripping paint off the other parts that arent replaced...i dont want to waste money on an official estimate to repair it since i know it will be alot more then what ill end up getting for the bike but do you guys think i should do it anyways for proof? i know the gas tank will be cheaper to re do then buy one($450), and the court may mention that, but as for the plastics etc it would be cheaper to get new ones then pay them to fix them.. either way its more then the court will give me...
2.. found some trikes online to show that they DO sell for more then blue book says...(some on ebay, with a winning buyer to show they did sell for that amount) no rediculous expensive ones either) i dont want them to think im being ridiculous and have it ruin my credibility, just want them to see they do sell for a good amount more then bluebook)
3.. worse comes to worse i have my receipt when i bought it for 600 (which was actually a steal in my opinion, orig owner, old guy, hardly used, shop maintained, etc..) .... i think i should atleast get my 600 back but that might even hurt my case if they feel i shouldnt get the full amount i paid for it, which i could see happening.. maybe ill forget that at home?..
on top of the restitution for the wheeler i think i should be able to get some money out of him for putting me through this somehow, i know theres a few different legal terms for it, just cant think of them, maybe i should contact a lawyer about this, anyone know if he would have to pay the lawyer fees?
anyone been through anything like this or have advice? feel free to chime in...

[stoney420]

Dude, that "kid" cousin of yours should have to pay to return it to original condition. I would go to the next town and hire someone to go kick his a**. If the punk had a car it would for certain need all new windows and lights. Prove I did it and I would have a damn good witnesses to where I was at when this happened. Hey I will vouch for you! You were with me all night here in Ohio when all the kids lights got busted out... At least you got it back. To bad it is painted black.

yea, to bad he dont even have a car :( , but he will one day... ;)

[code200k]

yea, to bad he dont even have a car :( , but he will one day... ;)

yea yours jk jk but really he will get his karma one day and if not you can always beat him:lol:

[Thorpe]

Thing that sucks about taking his dumb*ss to court is, if he is that big of a pos, you think he will ever pay restitution? The court can make him, but you will be waiting on your money for years... Cant get blood from a turnip...

[stoney420]

yea i know it will take awhile to get the money, but if he dont pay willingly the court can take his tax returns, which wont be much im sure and garnish his wages if he ever gets a job, etc. i dont mind waiting, as long as i get it, that will just be longer he has to deal with me :) ..
noone has any advice to nail his ass in court?

[pudge]

sorry to say it bro, but i wouldnt put too much effort or money into going to court because i highly doubt you will get more that the blue book value, and even then it sounds like hes not gunna pay you anyway. good luck

[atctim]

Here is your problem wit h small claims court - so let's say it goes to court and you win for say.....$400 damages.

If this punk stole your BR to sell it to get $100 - how is he gonna pay? How will you ever collect? this is a big problem!

[Xfile]

I bought a three 185S that someone had given a camo paint job to. I bought this stuff called KRUD KUTTER from wal-mart and it took the paint off with a little elbow grease. It didn't harm the finish on the fenders or on the tank and it looked nice when it was done.

[RedRider_AK]

Heh, I can relate to your problems with both people "close" (well, sorta) to you stealing your stuff and the police's inefficiency at taking care of this stuff... had a "friend" steal my 110 a couple years ago, my dad and I cruised around the whole town looking for it a couple times, nada, didn't find anything... filed a report, had the PD lookin' for it. Then I'm walking through town a week later and the thing is just sitting next to a stop sign, chillin'. In the middle of town. And it had been there for almost the entire day, because the thieves, as it turns out, rode it at night. So apparently not a single cop drove through that intersection for almost 15 hours or so, in a town of 4000 people and no streetlights. Amazing.

Damage was pretty bad, you should be happy your cousin didn't beat on it too hard. Mine had a cracked frame near the steering stem, it flexed really bad and the trike was unrideable. Fenders were cracked, bars were bent and the throttle and brake levers were damaged pretty good too. Pretty sure the grab bar was bent. Turns out my "friend" came over at about 3am one night after I had parked it in the backyard and started it up and just drove away. Thing didn't have a key or any sort of lock on it, but heck, we never locked our front door either, and I always left my bike by the porch unlocked.

His dad ended up covering for him, even though a lot of people I talked to said that he was the one who stole it, and a couple were actually with him when he was riding it, letting other people ride it, wreck it, etc. We never got anything for it.

The guy got what was coming to him, though. Busted for breaking and entering and theft and lots of other interesting things a year or so later. No pity.

Keep your chin up, man.

[Dirtcrasher]

IDK about YOUR states laws but:

I lent a guy I worked with 1000$, he claimed to have cancer and was gonna lose his home because of the hospital bills.

Promised me 300$ that weekend when he "installed a boiler" - this went on for months.

I finally took him to small claims, he never showed up and I won the judgement including the fees.

Problem is, they DO NOT ENFORCE repayment. And if they DO get arrested (for a triffic violation or otherwise) and the judgement shows up, all he has to say when they drag him into court is "I can pay 20$ a month, I have a family" and thats the end of it.......

Lock your stuff up, lock the building, use an alarm and set up a motion activated camera if you can. Thats about all you can do as the criminal has plenty of rights even though he's a POS :(

[Lukeatc185]

If you win in small claims court there is TONS of things the courts can do for you. but will they? who knows. for something this size. and him being a kid. dont expect them to do a whole lot. there going to slap him on the wrist and you may get your restitution. but when? could be never. depends on how much they wana throw at him.

[hublake]

In MI small claims are pretty much like dc says. The small claims court can award you a settlement but they do not have means to enforce. If he doesn't pay it just goes on his record as a bad debt.

[ditchmud]

Better off just stealing one of his fingers.

[jeffatc250r]

Big thing is you got your machine back. Aside from the abortion of a spray job, it looks to be in good shape still, (nothing broken)

The paint WILL come off with a couple bucks and a little elbow grease.

Take it as a lesson learned and keep everything locked up good.

Im sure your scumbag cousin will get what he deserves in all due time.

People like that always fall victim to natural selection.

[Saul]

I think you outta leave it black - me and you need to ride our big blacks red's together!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/SaulAce/bigredchopper/PB220703.jpg

[stoney420]

thanks for the tips, from what i hear, i beleive they will go as far as garnishing his wages(IF he ever gets a job), tax returns, etc here in newyork.. i know he wont just give it up willingly but in time ill eventually get it, as long as hes convicted thats good enough for me.. and hes not actually a "kid" i just refer to him as that, hes 20 yrs old... old enough...and this isnt the first time he has stolen from my house, small things last time and didnt press charges(should have) but now hes of age..
cops were supposed to meet with everyone today, me, his neighbors, the person he had tried to sell it to, etc and get all the statements/info together.. called once and dispatch said she would have him call..
.. i never got a phone call from em... but they did stop by his house today thats about all i know so far..

[NY3]

You know it wasn't one of your own! We don't do that to each other, "respect the ride & admire it!!!" Some punk takin a joy ride and sunk it or something.

[mohadib]

glad you got your trike back. hope he gets slapped with a felony. good luck

[Maico]

Good luck squeezing blood out of THAT rock!! At the next family reunion....pound the sh!t out of him.

Then go drink a cold beer.

[killerklown]

I would also wanna piss pound the loser, but from my experience I wouldn't touch him. He'd skate, and you'd be locked up.
"revenge is a dish best served cold"... Maybe wait a few years, let the emotions fade, then get yourself some justice of your own.
Or maybe let the system handle it, forgive him, and just pray for the kid. That doesn't mean you ever have to trust him of course.

[stoney420]

well just thought id give a little update on the little punk...
turns out the trooper handling the case was transferd to a different department, so a new one was put on the case, and what do ya know - 2 weeks after a different(or should i say better) trooper took over the case, the little punk has finally been arrested friday morning and is facing 18, YES, i said 18!! counts of burglary, theft, larseny etc etc apparently the little prick has been doing alot more theft than what i even thought he was. there has been alot of 4 wheelers,dirtbikes,3 wheelers, a gator 6 wheeler and other things come up missing lately and they are linking atleast 80% of the machines to him (joshua bender) and his buddy "turtle" (real name is something sacrin, forgot first name) they have recoverd a total of 7 machines so far from his woods(yes the same woods where mine was recoverd 2 months ago, IDIOT!) and his friends woods down the street from him. atleast 6 felonys so far and they were just getting started. needless to say that really made my day! even tho i wont be getting any money for a long time(if ever) since he probably has around 40-50 grand in restitution to pay out i dont even care about that anymore, im just glad hes where he belongs right now as i type this! they picked them up on friday and you cant get bailed out on the weekend, so he is there until atleast monday when his mom is going to go put her house on the line to make his $25,000 bond. she deserves whatever she gets as well since she is just as crooked and raised him, and his brother to be the way they are, when it comes right down to it, its actually not his fault, its HERS.
im done ranting now, thanks for allowing me a space to do so :beer
cant wait to see him standing in front of the judge when i go to his courtdate! :w00t: :beer

[stoney420]

oh, and i forgot about this, but thanks to monroemike, heres a lovely mugshot of him, his brother, and his lovely mother from when they were charged with tresspassing back in august :lol: hes the one in the far right of the pics, dark hair, brown shirt.. man they sure dont look like criminals, do they? :lol: :lol:
i assume they were about to steal something, and were caught in the yard before they had a chance. http://www.wktv.com/news/local/57697417.html
enjoy :beer

[racerxxx]

Glad to hear they got him Stoney!

[dcreel]

Glad to hear they fot them, and you got your trike back. I find it hard to believe the mother didn't know all of this was going on. I think she needs to do some time as well.

[ditchmud]

I love a happy endingtrr

[ilmoakw]

we are hard on the people that work hard for a living and easy on the scumbags here in america, and it needs to stop.


Same thing here in Canada brother! Same thing....

[luke]

Same here in the UK. It is nice to see a little justice though :beer

[85Tecate]

Glad things are turining for the good. Did i read this correct? It was your cousin?? What a douche!
My cousin went on a drinking binge a few years back and stole my YTM200. I noticed it missing the next morning and reported it stolen. About a week later he calls me and says "I have your 3 wheeler at my house" "I needed a ride home i was drunk" He rode it across town, across a busy highway to his house drunk in the middle of the night. I was so pissed....I think the police still think that its stolen, i never did tell them i got it back.

[85200xrider]

ok....we got the update on the scumbag loser...what about an update on the important thing....hows the bike lookin lol

[SPD FRK]

A ski mask and a baseball bat. With all the crap he's done to so many, no one would ever be able to narrow it down to you.

[Pafrig]

Glad things are turining for the good. Did i read this correct? It was your cousin?? What a douche!
My cousin went on a drinking binge a few years back and stole my YTM200. I noticed it missing the next morning and reported it stolen. About a week later he calls me and says "I have your 3 wheeler at my house" "I needed a ride home i was drunk" He rode it across town, across a busy highway to his house drunk in the middle of the night. I was so pissed....I think the police still think that its stolen, i never did tell them i got it back.

you just made my day with that story.

[stoney420]

ok....we got the update on the scumbag loser...what about an update on the important thing....hows the bike lookin lol

lol, well i didnt attempt to clean the plastic or tank until tonight, the light overspray on the engine did come off pretty easily with just some gas and a little scrub, tonight i tried some experimenting on the plastic, brake cleaner and brake fluid didnt work very well but i didnt let it sit either since i dont know what it will do to the plastic, oven cleaner did work pretty good with a little scrubbin, i only let it sit about 30 mins since it was just a tester, i think letting it sit longer will work pretty well. carb cleaner works good but dries up to quick. the thing that took it off the fastest was this stuff called "oops" but it started to fade the plastic white, so thats out. theres a couple other things i want to try but just used stuff that i already had around the house for tonight, ill keep ya updated..any suggestions are more then welcome..

[200xman]

I used Interlux fiberglass paint remover on a set of Polaris fenders that I had and it worked great. Took the paint right off and didn't harm the plastic. Any marina/marine store should be able to get it for you.

http://www.yachtpaint.com/Images/15_25702.jpg

[stoney420]

thanks for the tip, i may give it a shot, i hear alot of good things about the permatex gasket remover i think i may try that next if the oven cleaner dont do the trick after sitting longer
any reason i shouldnt let oven cleaner sit on there over night?

[stoney420]

anyone ever try this stuff? its made by klean strip aircraft remover which i have read numerous positive posts on here about while searching, this particular one is made for plastic, ever tried it? "Aircraft paint remover for flexible plastic" http://www.wmbarr.com/product.aspx?catid=82&prodid=45
http://www.wmbarr.com/Images/ProductImages/EUP367web.jpg

[racerxxx]

anyone ever try this stuff? its made by klean strip aircraft remover which i have read numerous positive posts on here about while searching, this particular one is made for plastic, ever tried it? "Aircraft paint remover for flexible plastic" http://www.wmbarr.com/product.aspx?catid=82&prodid=45
http://www.wmbarr.com/Images/ProductImages/EUP367web.jpg

I'd say thats for your rubber bumper covers on todays cars and trucks that are going to be painted, so it might discolor the plastic. I'd so a spot test.

[Thorpe]

Try using the oven cleaner, and then hitting it with the power washer when its soft...

[SYKO]

also find you an auto paint store and ask about BUMPER STRIPPER its made for plastic and eurathane bumpers and it strips the paint without harming the bumper underneath, should work fine for everything you need to use it on.

[stoney420]

thanks for all the tips, i knew you would be chiming in with some good info syko! was waiting for that lol, thanks
thorpe i did try lettin the oven cleaner(easy-off brand) soak about an hour then hit it with the ol garden hose on the "jet" setting, it worked decent but i would have to do it a few times and still scrub quite a bit to get it all off i think, but it does seem to work.. i dont have a power washer yet, maybe now is a good excuse for me to go buy one...............
i should be all set for the plastics with the info i have so far but wouldnt turn down some more tips of what to/ and what Not to try lol..,
anyone have any suggestions for the gas tank? is there any way i can take off the sh!tty spray paint without taking off the factory paint/finish on it? or if i do have to strip it and repaint, does anyone know what color honda used, or what the closest match available is? its not a showbike, its a rider so it dont have to be perfect, just want it nice again..
also, what can i use to take the heavier spray paint off the engine without having to paint it afterwards? gas worked for the lighter spray but not the thick stuff..

[Pafrig]

funny story. When I was like 3 years old, my parents had just gotten a new car, (1990 subaru legacy), they had a full garden going. it had everything from potatos to apples. They were also painting the house. (for years our house was known as the tyvek house because thats all that was covering it) anyways, they had a big bucket of paint, and some freshly picked brocoli sitting right next together, right next to the new car. so i waddle up in my pull ups, dip the brocoli in the paint, and proceed to paint the car white. that wasnt exactly one of smartest things ive done.......... so for the last 15 years, we've been driving around a blue subaru with a giant white splotch on the front. I'm going to be driving this car soon, so i decided it was time to get rid of that splotch. not wanting to harm the paint underneath too much, or spend bookoo money on chemicals and stuff, i just used steel wool, then polished and waxed the slightly roughed up base paint.
So i would try using an abrasive. is the entire tank painted, or just the visible parts?

[stoney420]

well i couldnt find the kleen strip for plastic that i wanted but they had a different brand i bought made by 'bulldog' for stripping paint from bumpers and it worked pretty well but im sure theres a better product out there, had to do it a couple times to get it all off, figured now was a good time to invest in a pressure washer and that helped alot. heres a before pic, a pic of the rear fender after 1 application of stripper then pressure wash and a pic of the front fender after 2 applications of stripper and a pressurewash, as you can see the rear still needs another coat but its gettin there. the front turned out great after second coat tho no black left anywhere!
is there anything that works good to bring back the color where i used this stuff called "oops" and it faded it?... OOPS! lol, and hide the light scratches from me scrubbin on it before i broke down and got the pressure washer?
not sure why my gray cement floor looks blue or why the front looks to have a little black at the bottom, it doesnt - my camera sucks...

[greythorn3]

well i couldnt find the kleen strip for plastic that i wanted but they had a different brand i bought made by 'bulldog' for stripping paint from bumpers and it worked pretty well but im sure theres a better product out there, had to do it a couple times to get it all off, figured now was a good time to invest in a pressure washer and that helped alot. heres a before pic, a pic of the rear fender after 1 application of stripper then pressure wash and a pic of the front fender after 2 applications of stripper and a pressurewash, as you can see the rear still needs another coat but its gettin there. the front turned out great after second coat tho no black left anywhere!
is there anything that works good to bring back the color where i used this stuff called "oops" and it faded it?... OOPS! lol, and hide the light scratches from me scrubbin on it before i broke down and got the pressure washer?
not sure why my gray cement floor looks blue or why the front looks to have a little black at the bottom, it doesnt - my camera sucks...

looking good! glad you decided to clean it up !

[SYKO]

Yea the stripper for bumpers will usualy take a few applications to remove everything, there designed not to penetrate as hard as a regular stripper. Looks good man glad its all cleaning up well.