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aldochina
10-02-2009, 02:19 PM
looks like he did a good job to me, he actually welded the pieces back in. Made a bit of a mess with the mating surface though, not sure why he had to grind so far out from the repair? but for free Its awsome, what do you guys use, just some high temp gasket sealer or somthing? I figure i can wetsand the surface just to get it a little smoother, I dont want to take it down anymore though.
http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv103/aldochina/102_2471.jpg
http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv103/aldochina/102_2472.jpg
http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv103/aldochina/102_2480.jpg
http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv103/aldochina/102_2479.jpg
http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv103/aldochina/102_2478.jpg

ilmoakw
10-02-2009, 02:22 PM
That's a good looking job! The price was right for sure! Now get that thing back together and throw some dirt around!

85Tecate
10-02-2009, 03:10 PM
That look great, he did a hell of a job on that. Aluminum isnt an easy metal to weld and he pretty much perfected it. Put a good word out for him he deserves it.

MonroeMike
10-02-2009, 03:13 PM
I'd be happy as heck if someone did that for free.

SWIGIN
10-02-2009, 05:39 PM
HRE welds mine like that but what i do next is rub the case on a falt surface with a sheet of 220.

i have a surface stone that works great for this but any flat surface will work.

SWIGIN
10-02-2009, 05:41 PM
after reading my post it dont make sence.....

spray some wd-40 or pb blaster down on the surface then lay the 220 sand paper down. the spray will act like glue and hold it, then saok the paper and rub the gasket surface till it's perfect.

The Goat
10-02-2009, 05:47 PM
looks DAMNED good

Don't suppse there is a case saver out there for us 350x guys yet?

aldochina
10-02-2009, 07:52 PM
thats a good idea swigin, I will try that. Yeah, I am pleased, I tried to give him $ and he wouldnt take it!! What a guy! Just talked to my wife, she said my service honda package arrived:w00t: Now I can put it back together any time!! I was gonna have it polished while its off, along with some other things. So I might not get to it for a bit yet.

lndy650
10-02-2009, 08:18 PM
looks DAMNED good

Don't suppse there is a case saver out there for us 350x guys yet?
pretty sure they came stock... i know my NOS engine has one.

aldochina
10-02-2009, 08:40 PM
they deff. came stock, I think goat is referring to a better after market one. this didnt have a case saver, my other one does, and that case is busted also. The oem ones dont save the case all the time, I think they are to soft, and narrow!! I have a brand new one, better to run the cheap oem one than nothing!!

The Goat
10-02-2009, 08:45 PM
yeah the stockers are weak and cast...but make them too hard and they break the bolts off...

Dirtcrasher
10-02-2009, 09:24 PM
Finally!!!!!!

Someone that can actually RUN a TIG welder :D

Looks super!!, he ground it down because he wanted a good bite. The other grinding is a few grits less than you'd like but still all super!

Dirtcrasher
10-02-2009, 09:31 PM
I gotta double post to be sure you guys see this :

Do you mean just the chain guard (For your foot)? or the metal guard that goes behind it?? That metal guard is thin *maybe 2mm but could be 1.5mm) but it runs in the center of the chain. It's malleable steel and it has saved my arse a few times when landing off of jumps and losing the chain.......

I've had no issue with a 13 or 14 and that stock guard (system) on my X and I don't "cruise" it :lol:

Just trying to get on the same page................

aldochina
10-02-2009, 09:34 PM
yes dc, the inner"chain gaurd" as its called in the parts micro!!

The Goat
10-02-2009, 09:43 PM
DC I agree it can work, but it honestly looks like it could deal with some serious beefing up.

You have to admit that some people are a little less than interested in checking the tightness of their chain before riding...

I've looked into having one made, but got leary when I noticed how it attached and decided stock was good enough if you're willing to check it occasionally.

Now if someone can make one that is beefier, allows a 15t sprocket, and won't compromise the mounting area, then you can put me down for one.

aldochina
10-02-2009, 10:30 PM
I read over on the 350x forum somewhere that someonr made them, but i'll have look into it!

oldtime3wheeler
10-02-2009, 10:36 PM
I run the run of the mill Honda one on mine now. Snapped my chain hill climbing and took a chunk out of my stator case. It was the spot you had fixed in your pics aldochina. Im still waiting to get one that a member said he could make me.

aldochina
10-03-2009, 12:13 AM
yes, they certainly arn't foolproof, but i'm sure 75% of the time it does its job!! You guys ever hear of HTS-2000, its like allumaloy, and the other rods for fixing aluminum, but they call it the second gen. stuff, far superior. Made specifically for hard to weld oil impregnated alluminum. watch the demonstration vid!! stuff looks amazing, and very easy to use, I may invest in some!!
www.AluminumRepair.com

aldochina
10-03-2009, 10:24 AM
keep us posted for sure!!

SWIGIN
10-03-2009, 05:27 PM
iv seen just as many broken cases with chain gaurds then without.....so i go without.

Dirtcrasher
10-03-2009, 06:43 PM
I'm certainly wondering what Johns thoughts are.....

The stock guard is a malleable (bends easy) metal. It will never crack unless you bend it back and forth 25 times.....

I'd imagine that any harder metal would snap.....

But then again, if were gonna talk about this, lets hear it??

I have lost my chain a few times, it's almost always after I left it dirty, warmed it up and lubed the hell out of the chain. Then it reared it's ugly and loose head and fell off. At which point that thin guard worked. One time I was really rippin, hit a huge bump and that thing jammed into my precious motor BAD! but it was AOK :D

How about you guys? Has ANYONE sheared off the mounting bolts themselves or broke the guard? was it all installed correctly with the right bolts etc etc??

My personal thought is the only way to make these better is to eliminate the 2 piece setup and make a one piece unit. If it could fit and look as well as stock, that would be super! But, it would still have to be super thick aluminum and or mild steel IMHO..............

I know no one has done so, but you cannot compare this to the 250R setup. That guard rides on posts or "bosses" that are off of the left case. Not like the 350X which is actually bolted thru the left lighting coil cover.....

The 250R design is weak from the beginning and it breaks off the dam clutch pivot so bye bye left case. Fortunately the clutch pivot goodies on a 350X are on the right case cover and well out of harms way :D

Funny thing is that THIS and the R are a place where dowel pins, SOLID dowel pins, with thick holders/bases ought to be used. The bolts themselves can't withstand the shearing of a flying chain. Bolts hold things tight, dowel pins locate and stop things from moving..........

jeswinehart
10-03-2009, 07:11 PM
Mine will defintly will be 1 peice made up of a 50/50 mix of composit resin +
Alu.
Might be great, might not be worth a tinkers darn, don't know yet.
Just something to kill the boredom so to speak.

john

aldochina
10-03-2009, 07:55 PM
anyone watch that vid!!

jeswinehart
10-03-2009, 08:47 PM
I don't see any links to a vid Rorey ???

Back when I had 350's I recall getting the idea that the case saver was not to cushion impact against the case but rather to stay put and keep a minimum distance away from the chain/sprocket so the chain didn't wad up and bust the case.
Sorta just to keep the chain on enough to let it roll on thru ,on or off either sprocket ???

john

Dirtcrasher
10-03-2009, 10:06 PM
The problem with the 350X is that is very little room to make changes on that LH sidecover......... But, I do believe that the small strip was Hondas' idea of a "case saver" for a 350X.....

I'll go out and take some pics of mine in the tomorrow, unless someone beats me to it.....

The Goat
10-03-2009, 10:22 PM
what if you just made a delrin insert to fit between the chain and the casesaver?

cheap, if the chain comes off, the thing will just slide through...

easy to make too

aldochina
10-03-2009, 10:37 PM
in post # 18, it says "aluminum repair", I see it on my screen, and it takes you right there. Maybe you guys cant see the link:wondering

MonroeMike
10-04-2009, 01:09 AM
http://www.aluminumrepair.com/video_new.asp

aldochina
10-04-2009, 01:25 AM
thanks mike!!

Thorpe
10-04-2009, 01:31 AM
Looks like a crock to me... Solder/brazing isnt welding.... We tried (in our fab shop) the alum-loy crap on pot metal headlight stanchions, and was crappy at best... My boss is one of the best welders in MN, and thats not just my opinion, but he has awards for his welding... Reminds me of hot epoxy... Is this a J.B. product?

aldochina
10-04-2009, 02:09 AM
I'm no welder, and no special effects wiz, but the demonstrations look pretty convincing. I have tried the allumaloy stuff, and agree it sucks.

jeswinehart
10-04-2009, 07:13 AM
but I am certainly no welder by any stroke of the imagination either.
I seen some alu welding process's in Asia on alu heads and thought it quite crude UNTIL I seen the results. Home made arc welder + torch. So it would not surprise me that a new technique would not be as good with today's ideas + innovations.
Yep, i can see several trips to a buddy's house to use his 350X as a guinea pig.
Derlin would be a great choice of material, strong but flexible, holds memory, easy to cut using a band saw with a 18 tooth blade.

john

NESC104
10-07-2009, 11:38 AM
Im not trying to highjack.... but... Does anyone know if the case saver for the 300ex and the 350X are the same (or close)? If it does this may be an option for a better casesaver/sprocket cover.
http://www.xrsonly.com/content/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=565&category_id=166&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=89

greythorn3
10-10-2009, 04:14 AM
is this more cracking???

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4259/1022472.jpg (http://img301.imageshack.us/i/1022472.jpg/)

aldochina
10-11-2009, 08:17 PM
thats just part of the casting process, most pieces will have this.