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devildog1996
08-05-2003, 11:48 AM
I have what I think to be a Kawasaki 250 KLT. The electric start button is bad on it and was wondering if anyone would know where I could get a new one or if I could just put a toggle switch on it. Thank You

MountainRider
08-05-2003, 01:29 PM
Given the location of the stock switch, I probably wouldn't use a toggle switch (might bump it when leaning forward). I you can't find a stock replacement switch, I would try to find a twist (key) type switch, or maybe a handlebar mounted slide type kill switch with a push button start switch.

bakeban
08-05-2003, 03:12 PM
if it is like the one i had, it doesnt have another way to start the motor does it? that is why i got rid of mine cause the starter went bad and i got sick of having it not start when it got hot either. damn junk if you ask me. i would sell it my friend and get a honda

devildog1996
08-05-2003, 03:44 PM
we can get it started and it will run after that. All we have to do is take a screwdriver and touch the bolts by the battery and it will start its just the stupid button isnt working any more.

jeswinehart
08-05-2003, 03:50 PM
have you looked for or found the fuse for the starter relay ???

i'm sure it would have one,,,, john

or run a continuity test on the starter button to see if it is the problem.

devildog1996
08-05-2003, 04:20 PM
No I have not. I'll give it a shot. I found a replacement starter kill switch. The kill switch works fine on the one that I have. Do you think that the starter is bad or maybe just the button?

J.D.
08-05-2003, 04:32 PM
Uhh...fella, if you can take a screwdriver and put on the "little screws", and start it, you're tripping the solenoid. If you can do that, but the starter button not work, you need a new solenoid.

devildog1996
08-05-2003, 05:17 PM
Hey thanks alot. I had no idea what was wrong

J.D.
08-05-2003, 05:32 PM
Your welcome. If/when you buy a new one and put it on, be sure to let us know it works. 8)

jeswinehart
08-05-2003, 06:08 PM
i still standing by my call ( simplest is cheapest ),,, look for a fuse. it won't be in the big wires you are jumping.


john

J.D.
08-05-2003, 06:36 PM
Well...I'm not expert, but to me it still sounds like the solenoid. Would a fuse stop the solenoid from doing it's job?

MountainRider
08-05-2003, 07:35 PM
I have to go with John on this one...check the start switch, kill switch and fuse with an ohm meter first; A badfuse will cause it to not get a "Start" signal "to" the solonoid. If those check out ok, then I'd target the solonoid. I'm not positive, but i think any small light duty starter solonoid like off a riding mower or something should work. I have some klt stuff laying around, but I'm not sure if I still have the solonoid. I have an old junker Yami street bike that might have one still on it too.

jeswinehart
08-05-2003, 08:31 PM
well,,, at least he has some good info from all of us for starters (excuse the pun,,, starters. ) lol !
+ thats what this place is allll about,,, helping one another.

john

'86X
08-05-2003, 09:27 PM
Well if you activate the soleniod with a screwdriver and it works, it must be OK! THe soleniod is not getting power from the start button it seems to me. Try taking the wire off of the solenoid and push the starter button. You should have 12 volts and I'll bet you don't. It could be the starter switch itself OR possibly a fuse or possibly a wiring problem. Another possibility is that it will not let you crank the engine if it is in gear. Not sure how that works but that could be it too. You need to get some info on it (a manual) so you can see how this stuff works.

atcmatt
08-06-2003, 02:59 AM
Dont go and buy a solenoid yet mate.
Check one of your wires are broken or check the terminlas are touching when you press the button.
Use a multi meter to see if its getting power.
Because i had the same thing happen to me and one of my wires were broken.

If not get a new solenoid like goku said!

devildog1996
08-06-2003, 09:09 AM
Thanks for all the help. I am going to work on it this weekend and will get back with you all.

devildog1996
08-06-2003, 09:26 AM
Anybody know where I can get a schemtic for this on the net

yater
08-06-2003, 09:58 AM
bikebandit.com

IronX
08-06-2003, 10:31 AM
I had an 82 klt 200 black in color and I used a key switch from custom chrome it was actually meant for a harley and put a pushbutton on it somewhere..

Iron

TimSr
08-06-2003, 12:06 PM
When you jump the two large terminals on the solenoid, you are NOT activating it, you are BYPASSING it. The solenoid is a relay, an electrial switch. When you push the start button it magnetizes a coil with the one or two small small wires on the solenoid, which then throws an internal switch which connects the two large wires together. While you push the starter, the solenoid should magnetized, and you can test that with a screwdriver. If it is magnetized, and/or you can hear it click, the solenoid output contacts are burnt off, and the solenoid needs replaced. If it does not magnetize, the solenoid coil may be bad, but its not real common, or there is no signal voltage to it, which could mean switch (button) or wiring. Push button switches commonly fail, and often its nothing more than oxidation and corrosion on the switch. If you take the switch off, and scrape the crap and oxidation off the push button contacts, and then grease the contacts with conductive grease, just enough to coat it, you dont want to short anything to ground, it will often correct the problem long term.
I dont know about fusing on this model, but I would be more inlcined to believe they would fuse the main power line to the starter, in other words the large wires, in which case the solenoid should still magnetize and click, and jumping the terminals with a screwdriver wouldnt work. If the line to the solenoid coil is fused, and blown, it would do exactly as is described, but I wouldnt think they would fuse that line.

Dan Tenn
08-06-2003, 01:35 PM
does this model have a neutral indicator on it so that it will only start in neutral? Ive seen bikes that wont start because the little neutral switch was shot.

devildog1996
08-06-2003, 01:49 PM
yes it does. It went out just about the same time that I started to have the problem with it starting. Do I have to get a new switch or might it just be a wireing problem?