Dickson atc 90 / 110 rear suspension Frame

[shortline10]

Just picked this up :w00t: . It took a long time to convince a friend of mine to sell this frame to me shens . It was made by a well known maker back in the day . Lets see if you guys can figure out what its for and who made it :naughty: ?

[WIkid500]

Honda 110? Is my wild ass guess.

No clue on the maker.

[atctim]

I will guess - Pauter??????

[leevarnado]

i have no idea but thats one cool looking frame,never seen anything like it.cant wait until you spill the beans,lol

[oldtime3wheeler]

Nichloson(spelling)

[Dirtcrasher]

Pk??????????

[shortline10]

Getting close but no body guessed it yet .:naughty: :wondering :beer

[4cfed]

not sure on who made it.. but i think there set up for 90 or a 110 motor

[Vealmonkey]

That swingarm is really throwing me off. I've been looking through the library and it's not on the list of usual suspects. There are 1 or 2 that are close, but that swingarm.....The frame is made to take a 90/110 tank and fenders and even a 90/110 rear bearing carrier. But those engine mounts are hard to figure too. The frame is kind of tall, so I'm thinking a streetbike engine or maybe a big single 2 stroke. Doesn't look like RD engine mounts. Heck, it could be a Dico for a big yamaha or a Desert Chassis? You got me on this one!

[Twilight]

125 cr sprint frame or a 175 4 stroke

I dunno my phone is taking to long to load all the pics

looks now like a

[Texas 200x]

Its for RACING and now its made for YOU! What do I win????

[Texas 200x]

I don't see anywhere to put foot pegs so a 70 or a 90?

[Yamaha_Rules69]

Dickson / Tricky Dick's frame? Somthing unusual...

[shortline10]

Dickson / Tricky Dick's frame? Somthing unusual...

Ding Ding Ding !!!!

We have A Winner !

Its a atc 90 / 110 Dickson Design & Development racing frame .

MAM was the seller/distr of these frames down here in south Florida .

This is going to be a great build . Not sure if I want to start from scratch or dismantle one of my other 90 atcs for a donor .shens

[shortline10]

That swingarm is really throwing me off. I've been looking through the library and it's not on the list of usual suspects. There are 1 or 2 that are close, but that swingarm.....The frame is made to take a 90/110 tank and fenders and even a 90/110 rear bearing carrier. But those engine mounts are hard to figure too. The frame is kind of tall, so I'm thinking a streetbike engine or maybe a big single 2 stroke. Doesn't look like RD engine mounts. Heck, it could be a Dico for a big yamaha or a Desert Chassis? You got me on this one!

Vealmonkey , I thought you would be the first to guess it . Took a pic so you could put it in your library :beer

[Yamaha_Rules69]

^^^^^^^^ SCORE! Nice find by the way. Thanks for sharing the information brochure too.

[Vealmonkey]

Not the most stable looking of headmounts for a racing frame. I've pulled some neat bits out of the miami area, a frame or 2 and some nice accessories. I've got a buddy in Hollywood that grabs goodies for me down there. That swinger is the piece that threw me off the most. I couldn't match it to anything. There was someone down there years ago that raced Tigers also, can't remember the name right now.

[MonroeMike]

Nice frame and scan.

[blue27]

wow, new one to me, cool piece!!!

[shortline10]

Thanks for all the complements everyone .

Not sure if I want to put this on the shelf for now and collect a few bits or just jump into it .:Bounce I've been after one of these frames for a very long time and actually had one back in the 80s . I'm going to be looking for some cool aftermarket parts for this so if anyone has some oldskool stuff let me know .:D

[rdlsz24]

Seems like the 90/110 had a ton of old school aftermarket parts, and you have the most of anybody!!

Rob

[bandito90]

Great score!Not very many suspension 90/110 frames seem to show up.Did many people buy them back in the day?What kind of shock does it have in the advertisement?

[shortline10]

Great score!Not very many suspension 90/110 frames seem to show up.Did many people buy them back in the day?What kind of shock does it have in the advertisement?

I remember back in the 80s when I raced , rear suspended 90/110s wernt all that uncommon at the tracks . It uses a S&W air shock which is a pretty cool set up .

[bandito90]

pretty cool.How hard is it to find a replacement shock?

[shortline10]

pretty cool.How hard is it to find a replacement shock?

A harley pre 1982 13 inch air shock is all I need .

[shortline10]

Picked up a nice 12" rear shock for the Dickson frame so the build will begin :Bounce . I have a decent stroker motor that I will freshen up and try in this frame also :naughty: .

[HondaHarry]

awesome. I'll be watching this build. That swingarm is neat.
very unique way of adjusting the chain. Never would of
thought of something like that. everytime I see these trick
90s I miss my old one. (was all stock, but I was 12 when I built
it from a pile of parts, and I thought it was the coolest trike ever) HH

[shortline10]

A little slow going but I finally got a chance to chem strip the frame and paint it up . Went with a black metal flake and it turned out pretty nice . :w00t:
Next I will tackle the swinger and I'm using a silver on that .

[harryredtrike]

looking good so far.should look sharp when done.

[Twilight]

Sorry to say I liked the red before. But your paint job looks killer mate!

[shortline10]

Sorry to say I liked the red before. But your paint job looks killer mate!

Yeah I liked the red to but the color scheme is black frame , white fenders , silver triples and swinger and lots of chrome

[MonroeMike]

That paint on the frame looks great.

[3wheelrider]

yes! very nice job on that paint. i meant to ask you the exact color when i saw it in your shop. gotta say, -i give you mad props and respect for who you are (ex-atc racer) and the quality of your work on your bikes. even more now after meeting you and seeing your work:beer in person. your bikes are one of a kind too!-thanks again

[shortline10]

yes! very nice job on that paint. i meant to ask you the exact color when i saw it in your shop. gotta say, -i give you mad props and respect for who you are (ex-atc racer) and the quality of your work on your bikes. even more now after meeting you and seeing your work:beer in person. your bikes are one of a kind too!-thanks again

Yeah Jimmy , it's nice to meet a local 3ww member and thanks for the props . :beer

Got the swinger striped and painted up today .

[shortline10]

Got the swingarm all painted and installed it in the frame . I cleaned and repacked the swingers needle bearings with grease and it all fits and works surprisingly smooth :Bounce .

[tri-shee]

Hey Mike , Looking good , keep up the good work , You build some of the best looking honda atc 90's out there .:beer

[Autophysn]

that thing is going to be badass!!!!!!!!

[shortline10]

Thanks guys , Now to put all the goodies in the frame . Gonna have to use a cut out Hi Low set up with a sl90 tranny shaft because the frame doesnt clear it . Made a call the the original owner of the frame and he forgot to tell me that little bit of info I guess:rolleyes: :lol: . Good thing I have a few of them lying around so its no biggy . :w00t:

[shortline10]

Got a little more done on the dickson build yesterday . :Bounce

[Vealmonkey]

That doesn't look like a rutt ryder front end! LOL I think everyone was looking forward to the old rutt ryder being on there since you posted that picture from the mag. It's looking pretty good though.

[shortline10]

That doesn't look like a rutt ryder front end! LOL I think everyone was looking forward to the old rutt ryder being on there since you posted that picture from the mag. It's looking pretty good though.

If I had a really nice Rutt ryder I would def put it on their . Got one you want to sell me vealmonkey ?
What I wouldnt give to find a nice chrome one :drool: .

MAM told me that dickson made the front end kits for these frames with alum tripples and std forks off a YZ and the rutt ryder in his add was just for display .

[tri-shee]

Looks great Mike , Keep up the good work .:beer

[shortline10]

I got it pretty much all together :Bounce . Worked all weekend on it . I just have to make an exhaust to fit around the fat frame :crazy: LOL.
Will post some pics if the site doesnt go down .

[shortline10]

Got alot done this weekend , Runs and rides very well . need to fab up an exhaust for it . Had to make a extra long brake rod as the stock one is about 12" to short and some new front motor mounts .

[shortline10]

A few more pics of the dickson

[xrider]

looking good!

[Billy Golightly]

Man that thing is SEXY looking! Awesome job.

[blue27]

nice, I like it!!!

[harryredtrike]

very nice,good job

[MonroeMike]

Looks awesome.

[Dirtcrasher]

Wow...........

Fantastic!! This question may be a bit off but: Allot of your stuff (I've seen) does not run an airbox.
Does this have a predetermined affect on jetting your familiar with? such as 20% larger increase as a starting point? Or have you done enough of these that you know where to ballpark jetting from??

I'm curious because in the summer I think I can jet up the 200X quite a bit with a K+N...........

I just can't imagine how drastic the jetting changes would/should be.

[shortline10]

Wow...........

Fantastic!! This question may be a bit off but: Allot of your stuff (I've seen) does not run an airbox.
Does this have a predetermined affect on jetting your familiar with? such as 20% larger increase as a starting point? Or have you done enough of these that you know where to ballpark jetting from??

I'm curious because in the summer I think I can jet up the 200X quite a bit with a K+N...........

I just can't imagine how drastic the jetting changes would/should be.

The K&N def breathe a bit better IMO than a foam type filter and as far as jetting its never been a big for me :D

[Dirtcrasher]

In other words, as I look at all the incredible machines you own downloaded to a "ATC Keep file" on my PC's desktop, it's never been a huge endeavor jetting them for you.

I don't live in the sandbox/dunes which is where I see so many "open" intakes. I just felt that soooooooo much open air must drastically change jetting?? Maybe not so much...........

Sorry, I don't mean to contaminate such an awesome/historical thread :D :beer

If I didn't say so before, it looks AWESOME. I can't think of a better word/words to describe it. She's a beautiful piece of ATC history; and YOU saved it!!

[Twilight]

Shortline, speaking of air filters I'm surprised you don't have UNI's on your machines, then again they don't matter unless you go out to dirt and sand I guess

[3wheelrider]

thats looks bad *ss. you really get a lot of progress in a short time on your projects.-without sacrificing quality of work in any way.--how do you do it?!- congrats on another job well done!

[shortline10]

Yeah if I was riding this in dusty conditions I would def have a uni type filter on it but I think the K&N filters breath better .

[shortline10]

thats looks bad *ss. you really get a lot of progress in a short time on your projects.-without sacrificing quality of work in any way.--how do you do it?!- congrats on another job well done!

Their was alot of time and thought into this build but I was in the mood to Get er done :Bounce. Still have an exhaust to build and I have to take the front end back apart , the tripples are loose so I need to do some shimming :wondering.


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[trainingwheeler]

wow so sick .... nice build ! one of these days im gonna build a full suspension 90/110 frame

[shortline10]

I had a NOS powroll head pipe so I revamped and welded it so it would run under the foot peg area . Installed an old supertrapp exhaust I had on the shelf and it all turned out pretty good . Took longer to make the exhaust than it did to basically assemble the whole trike :lol: .

[trainingwheeler]

this is shortlines 666th post ....

[Bryan Raffa]

that boy got the devil in Him.....:twisted::twisted::twisted: nice work!

[shortline10]

that boy got the devil in Him.....:twisted::twisted::twisted: nice work!


Sounds like youve been talkin to my Wife:mad::crazy:

[bandito90]

Another great job,Mike!

[shortline10]

Another great job,Mike!

Thanks . :beer

I just took it for a spin around my property were I have a small jump that launches pretty decent and this little trike handles the jump very well and much better than I expected .

[shortline10]

Took a few more pictures of the completed Dickson Framed trike today .

[atcrider1]

thats so awesome

[racer....X]

Very nice machine!

[MonroeMike]

What a good looking trike.

[mopar_man]

That's probably one of the coolest 90/110s I've seen. Nice job. Are you keeping it or selling it?

[trizilla]

looks awesome Mike.... wonder what it would look like with a rutt ryder on there;)

[shortline10]

looks awesome Mike.... wonder what it would look like with a rutt ryder on there;)

I would love to find out :lol:. If someone out their has one they want to sell please let me know .:)

[shortline10]

That's probably one of the coolest 90/110s I've seen. Nice job. Are you keeping it or selling it?

If you ever seen my shop in person you will realize I dont sell many of my trikes :lol:, Unless the right price is thrown at me :naughty:

[Vealmonkey]

Trizilla has the only Rutt Ryder I ever had. Maybe if you talk really nice to him? LOL This build is inspiring me to get the Hi Performance suspension 110 going. I have a 110 engine mounted in it, but I need to redo the upper and front engine mounts. It will be hard to go to this caliber of an rebuild though. Darn you! LOL

[trainingwheeler]

Bravo again Shortline that thing looks sweet :)

[shortline10]

Trizilla has the only Rutt Ryder I ever had. Maybe if you talk really nice to him? LOL This build is inspiring me to get the Hi Performance suspension 110 going. I have a 110 engine mounted in it, but I need to redo the upper and front engine mounts. It will be hard to go to this caliber of an rebuild though. Darn you! LOL

Yeah thanks for the heads up on the Rutt , I'm trying to get him to sell it but it doesnt seem like he's ready yet :wondering.

Come on now , Break out the welder and fix those mounts on your Hi Pref frame . Or you can just ship it to me and i'll finish the build for ya . shens

[Vealmonkey]

Don't tempt me to send it to you, but I probably wouldn't get it back! LOL I don't have a welder. Blue27 is my welding and fabbing go to guy. He has a much keener sense of how to put some of these poor trikes back together than I do.
Don't you have some kind of a gear for me? LOL I need to see what you have for my 110 engine. I need a intake and carb and a mild or medium cam. I still have those klt110 fenders. And go get that ribbed recoil case from your buddy.

[shortline10]

Don't tempt me to send it to you, but I probably wouldn't get it back! LOL I don't have a welder. Blue27 is my welding and fabbing go to guy. He has a much keener sense of how to put some of these poor trikes back together than I do.
Don't you have some kind of a gear for me? LOL I need to see what you have for my 110 engine. I need a intake and carb and a mild or medium cam. I still have those klt110 fenders. And go get that ribbed recoil case from your buddy.
I don't think I could do a build without my welder LOL makes life much easier .

Yes I have the starter part for you . I packed it up the day we talked but haven't had a chance to go to the post .
I have all the parts you mentioned , just have to let me know when your ready to do the deal:lol:.

My friend with the recoil covers seems to have fallen off the face of the planet :wondering . Will try another email to him in another week or so to see if he is still alive .

[Vealmonkey]

The big thing for me is finding a box that will fit the fender. PM me your address and I'll see what I can come up with. I may have to make some kind of custom box.

[shortline10]

The big thing for me is finding a box that will fit the fender. PM me your address and I'll see what I can come up with. I may have to make some kind of custom box.

Ok sending Pm

[shortline10]

Picked up a set of original old skool alum PCCC Turbo Wheels for the Dickson :D. Their in need of restoring but thats half the fun anyway LOL:lol: . I restored 1 wheel already by wet sanding and polishing . :Bounce These are really heavy alum wheels and came from a member here on 3WW . Thanks trizilla :) .

[Vealmonkey]

Hmmm.....I might have seen those someplace before? What else did you score from Eric?

[shortline10]

Hmmm.....I might have seen those someplace before? What else did you score from Eric?

:wonderingHmmmm:wondering what else :naughty: if he ever gets to shipping it LOL

[trizilla]

:wonderingHmmmm:wondering what else :naughty: if he ever gets to shipping it LOL

i know, i know....... i appreciate your patience shortline10. the wheels are looking good!! wrap that job up over the weekend cause i gots a feeling you'll be busy with something else over next week.;)

[Vealmonkey]

Wow, this should be good! You guys are going to force me to start pulling some parts off the shelf. Shortline a PCCC set of triples sure would look nice with those wheels...LOL You are going to force me to make a "Pep Boys" trike and blue27 won't be happy with me! LOL

[shortline10]

i know, i know....... i appreciate your patience shortline10. the wheels are looking good!! wrap that job up over the weekend cause i gots a feeling you'll be busy with something else over next week.;)

Awesome :D . I have 2 more wheels to clean up and then on to the :naughty:

[freaksfix]

I love these wheels! I got a set from Veal awhile back for my drag bike, i must have spent a week cleanen, sanding, polishin and painten the freaken things, i wanted to hang them im my living room when i was done. Ive since picked up another set of the 3 bolters that i need to restore yet.. I think i still owe veal some pics of them mounted on the drag bike, sorry veal..lol.. That 110 will look sick with those mounted up!

[shortline10]

Spent a few hours this weekend restoring the old turbo wheels :Bounce. I wet sanded the original paint to were it looked decent and then gave it a light clear coat on the red paint only . The alum parts of the wheels I used 000 steel wool and that cleaned them up good enough so they still have a vintage old skool look and not overly restored . Wasn't looking for the new look just clean and slightly restored . :D . Now for the fun part , mounting new tires :lol:.

[freaksfix]

Just a quick tip that I used was I cut big gaskits out of rolled roofing instead of those stupid o-rings that like to blow out the hub hole..

[shortline10]

Just a quick tip that I used was I cut big gaskits out of rolled roofing instead of those stupid o-rings that like to blow out the hub hole..
Thanks for the tip Matt;) , Was planning on using tubes on these rims but I def want to have them sealed up so water and crud dont get in their .

[shortline10]

Tubes and a new front trailpro came in over the weekend so the mounting begins on the turbos:Bounce

[bigpimpin]

MAM I used to see Grant when I was 15. Nice build great to see it come to life!

[shortline10]

I finally got a chance to mount up a new front tire on the turbo rims , now for the rears . I havn't decided what I want yet maybe 18" Turf Tamers

[shortline10]

Installed a White Brothers tail pipe to my supertrapp today . It gets rid of the disk set up and really lets it breathe now . I believe I had 14 disks and it was still very quiet and didn't seem to perform all that good but now its really sounds nice .

[bigpimpin]

cool, never seen that piece

[Vealmonkey]

What ever happened with the Turbo wheels? You got me all built up, then nothing..... Reminds me of a couple of dates I've been on! LOL

[shortline10]

What ever happened with the Turbo wheels? You got me all built up, then nothing..... Reminds me of a couple of dates I've been on! LOL

I ordered the tires this past thursday so the turbos will be on soon :Bounce

[shortline10]

Rear tires came in yesterday :Bounce so I finally got around to getting the turbo's on the Dickson . I went with a Duro on the front and some 18" turf tamers on the back .

[Vealmonkey]

Very nice. You need the mounts that attaches your front fender to the lower fork tubes though.

[HondaHarry]

wow. even cooler now. :) red plaid seat cover to give a little color to match the wheels and it would ooze old school even more. Appreciate the time and effort you took on this build, no easy feat, nothing easy to find on the entire machine. one of a kind. love it! HH

[trizilla]

Very nice. You need the mounts that attaches your front fender to the lower fork tubes though.

i have a set of these i would sell...

[lardog]

This is a awesome ...Very Clean ... is that a Helm and Son cylinder ?

[shortline10]

This is a awesome ...Very Clean ... is that a Helm and Son cylinder ?

Yep thats a helm and son star burst cylinder with their 61mm piston and 61mm stroker crank :naughty:

[shortline10]

Very nice. You need the mounts that attaches your front fender to the lower fork tubes though.

This thing will never be done LOL .

[shortline10]

wow. even cooler now. :) red plaid seat cover to give a little color to match the wheels and it would ooze old school even more. Appreciate the time and effort you took on this build, no easy feat, nothing easy to find on the entire machine. one of a kind. love it! HH

I've been on the hunt for an old school seat cover for this build but their just so hard to find but I'm in no hurry . Thanks for the props HH and by the way every time I look at your Tiger I just :drool::drool:

[tri-shee]

Hey Mike , it turned out great . Those turbo wheels look awesome on the dickson atc 90 . Old school all the way . Keep up the good work .

[MonroeMike]

Awesome bike, those rims looks great on there.

[black110]

alright i got to know what motor you got in there its not a honda is it or is it?????????

[shortline10]

alright i got to know what motor you got in there its not a honda is it or is it?????????

Yes its a honda all the way . Its a 1978 atc90 with a 61mm helm & son stroker and a helm and son 61mm cylinder = 180cc after the mods .

[black110]

didn't know they made a manual clutch cover for a 90... would that work on a 110? or do they make something like that for a 110. oh and the bike looks bad ass

[shortline10]

didn't know they made a manual clutch cover for a 90... would that work on a 110? or do they make something like that for a 110. oh and the bike looks bad ass

If you read the entire thread you will be answering you own questions LOL. The manual clutch is off a Honda sl90 trail bike and it will work on a atc110 the same .

[black110]

i've been looking a year to find a manual clutch that would work on a 110 thanks man

[shortline10]

i've been looking a year to find a manual clutch that would work on a 110 thanks man

Yep , No problem . The parts are out their just keep looking .

[90crazy]

A few more pics of the dickson
Is that a recoil cover? Who made it, and are there more than one kind out there?

[shortline10]

Is that a recoil cover? Who made it, and are there more than one kind out there?

Its a cover for the recoil cover and its made out of alum . Very trick part . I forget who makes it but its stamped on the inside of the cover .

[shortline10]

Decided to open a youtube account and try it out with my cell . Not very good quality but its a start LOL . This is my atc90 bored and stroked to 180cc .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANsHVy64A8w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Texi4CFUoSk

[Vealmonkey]

Man, I do love that sound of a hopped up 90. Love that polished finned recoil too.

[tri-shee]

Great sounding bike and good looking . Mike , you have some trike old school bikes . Get up the good work . Later ,Blair

[Pafrig]

haha "QUIET"

[shortline10]

A little to loud for my 4 year old boy :lol:




haha "QUIET"

[motoman1012002]

what rear tires on it in the first pics not the turf

[shortline10]

Ching shing 18x9.5x8


what rear tires on it in the first pics not the turf

[shortline10]

Got the new fiberglass tank installed today and man Josh does awesome work .

[chuckiedog04]

thats a nice little bike!

[90crazy]

Got the new fiberglass tank installed today and man Josh does awesome work .
Ya, Josh is a good guy that does great work! Great addition to the 90/110 world! No more rusty tanks... Looks great!

[shortline10]

Cant believe it but I got another one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a day !!!!!!!!!

[xrider]

we need pics stat