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oscarmayer
11-17-2009, 04:00 PM
ok before i start assembling the performance 200X motor I have, what's a dcecent clutch for it? I have EBC clutch springs (15% stiffer than stock) but i figure I may as well go ahea dand replace the discs too. I looked on ebay and there's not much on there right now. Tehre's a cheapo for $22 or versah fo $46. I figure if I'm paying $46 why not spend an extra $15 or so and get a decent one. so what's a decent clutch disc set?


Thanks in advance!

mike.

leevarnado
11-17-2009, 04:11 PM
oem or barnett,only way to go.all the cheap clutch components will slip.i went versa in a 200e and the dam things wouldnt let me pull sh-t.

oscarmayer
11-17-2009, 04:21 PM
lol. barnett? i'll check them out.

oscarmayer
11-17-2009, 04:26 PM
sweet! according to them, the steel discs are the only difference between the 83-85 and 86/87 200x models.

http://www.barnettclutches.com/products/clutch_plates_springs.aspx?type=clutches_other&clutch_make=Honda&clutch_cc=200

Mud1m
11-17-2009, 04:42 PM
them EBC clutch springs are a gimick. I put them in and there softer than the stock ones i had in it!! I was irate!

WIkid500
11-17-2009, 05:19 PM
them EBC clutch springs are a gimick. I put them in and there softer than the stock ones i had in it!! I was irate!

WERD to that! I ordered a set, they cam in a pack of 5 idk why...(Maybe if you add all 5 of the together they are stiffer than the 4 stock ones. lol) I could tell without putting them in they were SOFTER than stock. I now run a set of heavy Vesrah springs with vesrah clutch disks and have never had a slipping problem.

jensenracing77
11-17-2009, 05:21 PM
i would use the complete Barnett set.

WIkid500
11-17-2009, 07:20 PM
I wouldn't use just Barnett clutch disks with a oem basket. You will have lots of wear in the basket that leads to cracking. The Kevlar disks Barnett uses really grab hard.

shortline10
11-17-2009, 07:32 PM
I like the barnett or versa springs and OEM plates .

leevarnado
11-17-2009, 07:42 PM
does barnett make a basket for a 200x

Dirtcrasher
11-17-2009, 08:11 PM
^ Nope, or I'd buy one...... :D

ANY basket with ANY clutch that gets beat on is gonna get grooved up. I have not seen a broken basket yet aside from meatheads that jam screwdrivers in them to tighten the center nut........

For one, stop running big giant deep lugged tires on 200CC engines, what do you think THAT does to the clutch when you rev it up, dump the clutch and they grab like an SOB?

oscarmayer
11-18-2009, 09:47 AM
lol DC.

so no one makes a basket for a 200x? hrmmmm I have access to a CNC, maybe we can get some made if there's enough interest. thoughts?

leevarnado
11-18-2009, 10:46 AM
i might be interested mike,

oscarmayer
11-18-2009, 01:04 PM
sweet! does someone have a spare basket they wanna send me (loaner) to see about getting some made from buillet? you will get it returned once we get the prototypes made and fitted.

leevarnado
11-18-2009, 01:48 PM
i have one,let me look for it.

oscarmayer
11-18-2009, 03:18 PM
sweet! let me know!

Dirtcrasher
11-18-2009, 06:05 PM
IDT billet 6061 does the trick, it needs to be a different type of aluminum alloy completely to really hold up and would run 200$ give or take probably.....

90% of people want stuff for peanuts anyway and I hate to be the bad guy, so, good luck.....

I've got about 8 good 86/87 baskets so I'm good until I can't kick it over anymore :D

oscarmayer
11-20-2009, 11:34 AM
^ LOL I can see it now, Grandpa Dirty and his attempt at kicking his 50 yr old trike over. What a U-Tuber that will be! lol

harryredtrike
11-20-2009, 03:44 PM
id go with oem parts

harryredtrike
11-20-2009, 03:50 PM
should still be able to get the parts.


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01 WASHER
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02 CLUTCH (OUTER)
22100-437-020 001 $164.59


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22100-437-020 (replaces 22100-965-000) 001 $164.59


03 CENTER, CLUTCH
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04 DISK, CL FRICTION
22201-GF6-000 (replaces 22201-166-000) 005 $9.94


04 DISK, CL FRICTION
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05 PLATE, CLUTCH
22311-KN4-680 (replaces 22311-107-000) 004 $3.85


05 PLATE, CLUTCH
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06 PLATE, CLU PRESS
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07 PLATE, CLUTCH LIFTER
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08 ROD, CLUTCH LIFTER
22366-KCN-000 (replaces 22366-437-000) 001 $5.22


08 ROD, CLUTCH LIFTER
22366-KCN-000 001 $5.22


09 SPRING, CLUTCH
22401-KT0-000 (replaces 22401-446-770) 004 $2.85


09 SPRING, CLUTCH
22401-KT0-000 004 $2.85


10 BOLT (6X22)
90050-357-000 004 $1.97


11 NUT, LOCK (16MM)
90231-KCS-651 (replaces 90231-200-010) 001 $2.33


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